I am getting better prices at Betfair and Betehorse for horses. If a horse goes off at 2-1 at the track I can most times get it at 5-2 or 3-1. My days are numbered betting at the totes, plus you can bet horses to lose but risky. On a 3-1 type horse you probably lay about 17 to win 4. I do not know if that is a good bet though. Probably bettere value in betting horse to win.