OK, all except for Major Russ is in agreement here. Bet Pan Am self destructed and lied. A couple of questions. No flaming, why was everyone so slow to see this coming? If they were dumb enough to run their own place into the ground were they sharp enough to hide it from everyone? I have no stake in this whatever, never was there. I am as unbiased as you can get on this one. I am sure looking back on this everyone will say the warning signs were there. Second, and more important today, if anything good comes from this bad situation, have the watchdog sites learned from it? Will everyone so trusting be blindsided, again? My interests are purely selfish, or capital preservation. That is why I am concerned. Was Bet Pan Am a unique situation? Or just most current? This is an excellent thread, at least it cuts the fluff. Any and all input is appreciated...Best Wishes...OF