betcris parlay calculator WTF????????????????

[PO69]

Check out these parlay odds at betcris!! How can they get away with this?? I mean most people might not even notice. To preface the story, the first bet is a 2 team parlay for $10 with buying 1/2 point on UTEP. I used $10 to make it simple! Of course, when i put in $200 parlay the results were the same. Notice how the first example pays $24 for the 2 team parlay. That is about correct since we bought 1/2 point.

The next bet is a 5 team parlay with moneylines involved. I think that even before looking everyone here would expect the 5 teamer to pay SUBSTANTIALLY more. Of course the moneylines were very high, but I would expect at least a payoff of around $40-45 or so. Actually I am not sure since most books dont offer moneylines this high and I have never parlayed them.

But the payout below is LOWER than the 2 team parlay!!!!!!!!!!:WTF: :ughhh: :messed: :Countdown

How is this possible??????? Any input would be appreciated! I guess that betcris is not the book to bet parlays with!





<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220486</TD><TD>11/27/2004
12:33 PM</TD><TD>[131] OKLAHOMA ST</TD><TD>+4-110</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220486_0 name=rmv_220486_0></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_even><TD>220490</TD><TD>11/27/2004
12:03 PM</TD><TD>[139] UTEP</TD><TD>-6½-120</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220490_0 name=rmv_220490_0></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE><TBODY><TR class=bigtext><TD>Risking</TD><TD>$10</TD></TR><TR class=bigtext><TD>To Win</TD><TD>$24</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>



Now check this **** out!!! How can this be????


<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220486</TD><TD>11/27/2004
12:33 PM</TD><TD>[131] OKLAHOMA ST</TD><TD>+4-110</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220486_0 name=rmv_220486_0></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_even><TD>220490</TD><TD>11/27/2004
12:03 PM</TD><TD>[139] UTEP</TD><TD>-6½-120</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220490_0 name=rmv_220490_0></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220494</TD><TD>11/27/2004
4:48 PM</TD><TD>[147] BOISE STATE</TD><TD>-2200</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220494_4 name=rmv_220494_4></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_even><TD>220495</TD><TD>11/27/2004
2:03 PM</TD><TD>[149] FRESNO ST</TD><TD>-2800</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220495_4 name=rmv_220495_4></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220498</TD><TD>11/27/2004
5:03 PM</TD><TD>[156] USC</TD><TD>-2600</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220498_5 name=rmv_220498_5></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE><TBODY><TR class=bigtext><TD>Risking</TD><TD>$10</TD></TR><TR class=bigtext><TD>To Win</TD><TD>$19</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>




If you dont believe it then try for yourself. Here is another example.


<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220500</TD><TD>11/28/2004
1:15 PM</TD><TD>[160] NEW ENGLAND</TD><TD>-6½-120</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220500_1 name=rmv_220500_1></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_even><TD>220509</TD><TD>11/28/2004
1:15 PM</TD><TD>[177] NY JETS</TD><TD>-3-110</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220509_0 name=rmv_220509_0></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE><TBODY><TR class=bigtext><TD>Risking</TD><TD>$10</TD></TR><TR class=bigtext><TD>To Win</TD><TD>$24</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


<TABLE><TBODY><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220500</TD><TD>11/28/2004
1:15 PM</TD><TD>[160] NEW ENGLAND</TD><TD>-6½-120</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220500_1 name=rmv_220500_1></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_even><TD>220509</TD><TD>11/28/2004
1:15 PM</TD><TD>[177] NY JETS</TD><TD>-3-110</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220509_0 name=rmv_220509_0></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220494</TD><TD>11/27/2004
4:48 PM</TD><TD>[147] BOISE STATE</TD><TD>-2200</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220494_4 name=rmv_220494_4></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_even><TD>220495</TD><TD>11/27/2004
2:03 PM</TD><TD>[149] FRESNO ST</TD><TD>-2800</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220495_4 name=rmv_220495_4></TD></TR><TR class=line_item_odd><TD>220498</TD><TD>11/27/2004
5:03 PM</TD><TD>[156] USC</TD><TD>-2600</TD><TD><INPUT type=checkbox value=220498_5 name=rmv_220498_5></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE><TBODY><TR class=bigtext><TD>Risking</TD><TD>$10</TD></TR><TR class=bigtext><TD>To Win</TD><TD>$19</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Seems impossible these numbers!!!! How do you explain this??

 

[PO69]

And I am sure that most people would respond, well it is stupid to parlay these huge moneylines. Yes it is, but a friend of mine informed me of these odds and i had to see for myself. This is highway robbery when it comes to parlay odds!!!

 

[Noreaga+]

doesnt make much sense

 

[PO69]

Not too much going on around here right now! I picked a bad day to post this.



By the way, my BIGGGG picks for the day are

UTEP -6.5
and OK STATE +4.5 or moneyline


Of course, UTEP is already losing at the moment

 

[Journeyman]

IM them, i know last week they were having problems with the parlay online...I couldn't get the software to take a parlay period!

That is very strange ! Has to be a glitch...

 

[PO69]

Well UTEP is losing now, so now i need Oklahoma State to win on the moneyline




One more strange thing, if I want to do a straight bet or parlay and after selecting which sports, if I press enter rather than clicking on continue, then the screen will show you no bets. I have never seen that and it is getting a little annoying as I will make that mistake about every other bet! I guess that I need to get used to them a little more as I havent used them in a long time before last week

 

[HuckFinn]

player69--let us know what they have to say about this :WTF:

 

[PO69]

I didnt ask them, I was hoping for another moderator or someone else to ask them that plays with them regularly.


But i know what their answer will be, they will say that they parlays calculator predicts the expected return, and that nothing is wrong

 

[charleslanger]

Hard to say for sure w/ those small bet amounts you supplied, but:


Seems like they are rounding DOWN to the next dollar--

the examples with the -110 / -120 are missing 99.999999999999999 cents

the other ones: @ 36 cents..... AND IF to boot they snip off the end and/or round downthe multiplier, you may actually lose between one dollar & two dollars sometimes, as in this case:

the multiplier for -2600 is 0.038461538461538462 ........ what are they multiplying by? .03 , .038 , ???

The only other possibility is that their reduced vigs don't apply to parlays AND the adjusted vigs are not reflected on that parlay page... in such a case they could even be rounding up for you, who knows?

May be able to more easily confirm/decipher if you provide examples with high & odd bet amounts: say $123, $789.......

 

[PO69]

The EXACT same thing happened when i tried to bet these for $100 and $500. I only made it $10 to make it eaqsier for everyone

 

[charleslanger]

so they're keeping the loose change by rounding down, only paying even dollar amounts..........

 

[TANG]

books gotta love u guys who parlay. it is like making a donation. rip me for saying it if you want. how many of you are up overall on parlays. play single games at reduced juice this is how you win.