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I was in a conversation a month ago and realized i couldnt even hold water to the older crowd on this subject, just wondering what everyone thought. I mean all I could seriously come up with were Cigar, Tiznow, Ouji Board for flats and the first harness horses I thought of were Bunny Lake, Gallo Blue Chip, and an Art horse I cannot seem to place, all of which will probably be throttled by others thoughts.
 

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in person not TV...spectacular bid TB

BUGGIES was....nihilator
 

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quarter horse mention and this isnt close......dash for cash.....all others are fakes
 

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Mack Lobell is indeed on my short list but #1 must be Queen L. Find a video of that girl and look at the effortless stride, almost floating on top of any surface. She almost always did all the work herself making many wins even more impressive.
 

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I was in a conversation a month ago and realized i couldnt even hold water to the older crowd on this subject, just wondering what everyone thought. I mean all I could seriously come up with were Cigar, Tiznow, Ouji Board for flats and the first harness horses I thought of were Bunny Lake, Gallo Blue Chip, and an Art horse I cannot seem to place, all of which will probably be throttled by others thoughts.

Holy Bull would have given Cigar a great race.
Best flat = Secretariat
Best trotter = Dewey Chetem and Howe
 

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Up to this point in harness racing, and I've seen alot of great ones including Cams Cardshark, Jenna's Beachboy, Artsplace and too many others to mention. Hands down I have never seen the likes of Somebeachsomewhere, and if it wasn't for the worst drive I've seen too this horse would be undefeated.
 

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FOR ME-NIATROSS (easy one)/- TB -HARD TO CHOOSE - FOREGO,CIGAR SECRETARIAT-CIGAR DID IT ALL & IN MANY DIFFERENT PLACES. I HOPE OMT WEIGHS IN
 

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