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I was talking to a friend and mentioned that based on offers of some good numbers I saw this year, there are 3 places I'd want to have accounts next year. For example, in week #16 I saw Jacksonville -1.5 at 3 different places, every place I checked. Then I went to Intertops and was very surprised to find it as a pick -125. I took it at that price and the next day I went back and played it some more at -1 -115. So I won or pushed my bets on Jags vs New Orleans. So Intertops is one of my 3 places for next year based on that and a number of other plays this season where I found a "surprise" line. Also, they sometimes offer good value on props. MVP is another book I like. As most people know, they have very opinionated lines. Clone books are not useful as optional outs. I won't have an account at Pinnacle, although based on their lines this season I'd say they definitely offer value. Rio is the third of my places for next year. They offer some nice lines and their free half point is tough to match. I'll have at least those 3 next year, plus I will need to find a good place for 3 team parlays since I expect to play some and would like to get 7-1. If you have any suggestions let me know.
 

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If you bet your own opinion, Pinnacle can be very good. Some of time you can end up with plus small juice, or even money on straight bets. Of course sometime you are playing the side they want you on, but that does'nt mean they are always going to be right. Buying half points in certain situations is cheaper also. Eg. the Broncos are 6.5 -110 almost everywhere. At the Planet you can puy to plus 7 lay -113 right now, decent value IMO. Naturally you have to like the Broncos to begin with.


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This is a subject MOST wizeazz posters will NOT help anyone with. They guard their "opinionated" outs as if they were gold, being paranoid that others will beat them to the numbers and ruin the "out's usefulness".

Speaking strictly from who takes the biggest stands you'd have to include SIA ( though they are an aquired taste many loathe for other reasons ) and Bowman's square line ( IF u can get it as I only got it for a few weeks before getting the clone one ) right up there particularly for dog players. I'd also say GameDay's square line is usefull, particularly during Happy Hour ( again IF you can stay on it as I couldn't and IF they don't limit you greatly and deny parlays&teasers as they did me ). Intertops also can show opinion as you mentioned.

Other books that take a little less flack about being quick to boot and limit that I think show opinion include carib, canbet, and betaustralia. Mostly because of reduced juice reasons, IMO, ( like Pinnacle in that respect ) but they also give a hook here or there to boot.

Some of it depends on what you bet and WHEN as to how much line diversity you get. It is definitely getting HARDER to find non-concensus lines. Many of the big safer books are strictly cloning, PERIOD. Those few outs that move on action ( I consider SIA one of these ) are the ones most likely to take stands but I don't know too many and some are too shaky even at that!

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Won't get much going in this thread besides the well known books. Pros aren't going to share with you what is paying the light bill, why should they? Once they get done they may leave the carcass for the rest of us but by then the end is near. You'd get more responses asking 3 wiseguys in front of their wives what whores they recommend then you will asking about opinionated outs.

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"opinionated" doesn't really always apply at these places that are jacking up the juice...

Jax -1 -110 can be bought to Jax pk -130 at most places. Since the value of the 0.5 and 1 in NFL are consdierably less than 10 cents, I would imagine Jax pk -125 and Jax -1.5 -110 aren't really THAT far off.

I consider an opinionated book one that has different lines at the SAME price (i.e. -110)

In this regard, here at the best opinionated outs that are commonly known:

Carib
SIA
Gamblers Ave has recently had "rogue" lines where you could often pick up a hook for free.
 

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