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Dec 21, 2010
Mantle? Griffey? Clemente? It is all in the (Topps) cards
The 1952 Mickey Mantle is the Holy Grail of modern trading cards selling for as much as $20,000.
But is it the most popular?
More popular than the (error) card of Hank Aaron as a lefthander?
More popular than the rookie cards of Cal Ripken, Ken Griffey Jr., Johnny Bench or Derek Jeter?
Topps, celebrating its 60th anniversary of making baseball cards, has asked fans to vote for their favorite cards and starting today is unveiling the top vote-getters.
The winners will be included in the 2011 series.
Dec 21, 2010
Mantle? Griffey? Clemente? It is all in the (Topps) cards
The 1952 Mickey Mantle is the Holy Grail of modern trading cards selling for as much as $20,000.
But is it the most popular?
More popular than the (error) card of Hank Aaron as a lefthander?
More popular than the rookie cards of Cal Ripken, Ken Griffey Jr., Johnny Bench or Derek Jeter?
Topps, celebrating its 60th anniversary of making baseball cards, has asked fans to vote for their favorite cards and starting today is unveiling the top vote-getters.
The winners will be included in the 2011 series.
Probably the worst story of all. 3 sets of brothers including me & my brother became fanatical about BB cards I think it was 1952. We flipped them, scaled them & traded them to get cards we didn't have, I think they were Bowman Cards & Mantle & Mays rookie card were among them. Finally we got the final card to the set & to this day I remember it was card #299 Joe Astroth. there were 324 cards in the set. I kept them.
After my divorce in 73 I was dating a girl who had a kid who was a baseball fanatic and I bought them over to show him and left them there, forgot they were there uncerimonously broke up with her & when I realized where they were they told me they didnt have them.
Anyway they were not in mint shape and I went to a collector last year because my mom had my dads autograph book with 5 or 6 Hall of Famers from the old 1931 Phila Athletics which I sold for her for $1500 & asked about my set. He said because they werent mint condition I may have gotten around $10000 for the set which made me feel better, I thought my silyness deprived me of about 50,000.
After my divorce in 73 I was dating a girl who had a kid who was a baseball fanatic and I bought them over to show him and left them there, forgot they were there uncerimonously broke up with her & when I realized where they were they told me they didnt have them.
Anyway they were not in mint shape and I went to a collector last year because my mom had my dads autograph book with 5 or 6 Hall of Famers from the old 1931 Phila Athletics which I sold for her for $1500 & asked about my set. He said because they werent mint condition I may have gotten around $10000 for the set which made me feel better, I thought my silyness deprived me of about 50,000.
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This Mantle sold on eBay for $486,000, a new all-time record. (Photo by PWCC)
“Mantle rookies in any grade are appreciating ridiculously,” said John Goodman, who runs Goodman’s Vintage Sports Cards, at a show held this past weekend by the Greater Boston Sports Collectors Club. “I’d buy as many as I could, grade be damned. It’s crazy what has happened.”
Just this past August I reported that the record for the 1952 Mickey Mantle Topps rookie, $382,400, lasted less than 24 hours. On the night following the Heritage auction I attended in Chicago, Goldin Auctions sold a Mantle rookie in the same condition for $400,950 – or more than $130,000 than a comparable card in January, 2015.
That was short money compared to the newest record: $486,100 by PWCC Auctions (Pre-War Card Collector) in an eBay EBAY +0.00% auction. To be on the conservative side before the auction, Brent Huigens, PWCC’s founder had predicted in SMR magazine that the final price would be $300,000. “I am delighted but not completely surprised by the closing price,” he told me. “This was (arguably) the best PSA 8 to sell in recent years.” The undisclosed winner was a heavy-hitting collector and investor.
The 1952 Mantle Topps rookie is the most popular post-war sports card by far. “Boasting larger dimensions, dynamic graphics, and cherished high-number series, an upstart company named Topps staged a cardboard coup d’etat, usurping the throne from Bowman,” write Khyber Oser, Mark Friedland, and Ron Oser in Cardboard Gems. “Mantle, too, was the harbinger of a new age. As the card back presages, ‘Switch-hitting Mickey is heralded as Joe DiMaggio’s successor.’ The oversized card was an immediate favorite for trading, flipping, and ‘spoking.’” Spoking refers to the long-abandoned practice of fastening cards to bike wheels to simulate the sound of motorcycles.
Mantle’s 1952 rookie is the most expensive to sell on eBay since a Honus Wagner 1910 tobacco card in 2000. (Photo by PWCC)
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Although it was double-printed, making it twice as common as the other cards in the set, the Mantle’s rarity is the stuff of legend. The high-number series was printed late in the season in less quantity as children’s thoughts turned to football. Sy Berger, a Topps executive and co-designer of the cards, was stuck for years with unsold inventory clogging his company’s Brooklyn warehouse. For years he tried in vain to sell them at carnivals for a penny a piece, then 10 per penny. Finally around 1959 or 1960 he put 300-500 cases, enough cards to fill three garbage trucks, and loaded a friend’s garbage scow a few miles out. A flick of a switch lined the ocean bottom with cardboard gold. “Whoever thought they would have the kind of value that they would have?” Berger mused to SCD in perhaps the biggest understatement in collecting history.
Over the past decade coinciding with the eBay consignor’s ownership, a PSA 8 Mantle has increased more than nine times in value, from about $50,000, according to vintagecardprices.com. “More importantly, perhaps, in just the last two years, the value has risen from around $125K to nearly $500K for a quality example,” Huigens says. The exponential increase, he adds, partly stems from the overall economic recovery since the Great Recession.
“I actually believe investors of all types are the future of blue-chip investments caliber sports cards,” Huigens says. “Case in point, my entire investment pool is dedicated to sports cards and I have zero money in the stock market. I even cashed out in favor of this pursuit. I simply believe we are just getting started.”
At the Boston show, I found another full-time, veteran dealer, Chuck Blue just as bullish: “The stock market is risky,” he said. “People want something with a track record as the years go by.”
He then began and paused several times to rephrase his thoughts: “It remains to be seen, with caution, what the outcome of this las auction will really yield.”
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“Mantle rookies in any grade are appreciating ridiculously,” said John Goodman, who runs Goodman’s Vintage Sports Cards, at a show held this past weekend by the Greater Boston Sports Collectors Club. “I’d buy as many as I could, grade be damned. It’s crazy what has happened.”
Just this past August I reported that the record for the 1952 Mickey Mantle Topps rookie, $382,400, lasted less than 24 hours. On the night following the Heritage auction I attended in Chicago, Goldin Auctions sold a Mantle rookie in the same condition for $400,950 – or more than $130,000 than a comparable card in January, 2015.
That was short money compared to the newest record: $486,100 by PWCC Auctions (Pre-War Card Collector) in an eBay EBAY +0.00% auction. To be on the conservative side before the auction, Brent Huigens, PWCC’s founder had predicted in SMR magazine that the final price would be $300,000. “I am delighted but not completely surprised by the closing price,” he told me. “This was (arguably) the best PSA 8 to sell in recent years.” The undisclosed winner was a heavy-hitting collector and investor.
The 1952 Mantle Topps rookie is the most popular post-war sports card by far. “Boasting larger dimensions, dynamic graphics, and cherished high-number series, an upstart company named Topps staged a cardboard coup d’etat, usurping the throne from Bowman,” write Khyber Oser, Mark Friedland, and Ron Oser in Cardboard Gems. “Mantle, too, was the harbinger of a new age. As the card back presages, ‘Switch-hitting Mickey is heralded as Joe DiMaggio’s successor.’ The oversized card was an immediate favorite for trading, flipping, and ‘spoking.’” Spoking refers to the long-abandoned practice of fastening cards to bike wheels to simulate the sound of motorcycles.
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Although it was double-printed, making it twice as common as the other cards in the set, the Mantle’s rarity is the stuff of legend. The high-number series was printed late in the season in less quantity as children’s thoughts turned to football. Sy Berger, a Topps executive and co-designer of the cards, was stuck for years with unsold inventory clogging his company’s Brooklyn warehouse. For years he tried in vain to sell them at carnivals for a penny a piece, then 10 per penny. Finally around 1959 or 1960 he put 300-500 cases, enough cards to fill three garbage trucks, and loaded a friend’s garbage scow a few miles out. A flick of a switch lined the ocean bottom with cardboard gold. “Whoever thought they would have the kind of value that they would have?” Berger mused to SCD in perhaps the biggest understatement in collecting history.
Over the past decade coinciding with the eBay consignor’s ownership, a PSA 8 Mantle has increased more than nine times in value, from about $50,000, according to vintagecardprices.com. “More importantly, perhaps, in just the last two years, the value has risen from around $125K to nearly $500K for a quality example,” Huigens says. The exponential increase, he adds, partly stems from the overall economic recovery since the Great Recession.
“I actually believe investors of all types are the future of blue-chip investments caliber sports cards,” Huigens says. “Case in point, my entire investment pool is dedicated to sports cards and I have zero money in the stock market. I even cashed out in favor of this pursuit. I simply believe we are just getting started.”
At the Boston show, I found another full-time, veteran dealer, Chuck Blue just as bullish: “The stock market is risky,” he said. “People want something with a track record as the years go by.”
He then began and paused several times to rephrase his thoughts: “It remains to be seen, with caution, what the outcome of this las auction will really yield.”
I collected most of my life.
Coincidentally started in 1984 with what turned out being a big rookie year with Dan Marino, John Elway, Eric Dickerson & others.
Stopped for a few years & then started back in 1989 when Pro Set burst on the scene.
The cards were beautiful (and over produced) & a defining point for the industry with other companies getting in on the business other than just mainly Topps.
Eventually i tired of the collecting rookies part & started collecting insert autographs instead.
The very first year Upper Deck put out SPX i had my biggest hit ever.
Was in a mall & one of the sports stores had the packs at the register.
I almost bought some but passed cauz i was gonna stop at a card shop 5 minutes away.
Turned out the packs were almost twice the amount at the card shop.
So when leaving the shop, i ask my gf at the time to swing back by the mall.
She says she didn't feel like it so i said ok fine.
But after a minute i changed my mind and told her to go by there.
I bought 4 packs off top of the box.
2 of the 4 packs were huge.
In one i got the Michael Jordan auto exchange card.
I had no idea how much it was worth untili called a shop i dealt with in Lakeland Fl & he offered me $3,000 on the spot.
Word was there were 100 or less printed & signed.
It eventually booked for close to $4500 if i remember correctly.
In the other pack, i also hit the Penny Hardaway auto exchange which booked for 1,000 early on. (He offered me $500).
Told my gf that she almost caused me to miss out on wgat happened!
I ended up selling both because i got a good offer & knew the prices would drop.
Ebay was still fairly new & the guy at Lakeland card shop sold it for me to a buyer in California for $3500.
I used to run contests here actually & would give away cards as prizes. Im sure some of the threads are still around.
I stopped collecting 5-6 years ago.
Ive almost started back a few times but just haven...
Coincidentally started in 1984 with what turned out being a big rookie year with Dan Marino, John Elway, Eric Dickerson & others.
Stopped for a few years & then started back in 1989 when Pro Set burst on the scene.
The cards were beautiful (and over produced) & a defining point for the industry with other companies getting in on the business other than just mainly Topps.
Eventually i tired of the collecting rookies part & started collecting insert autographs instead.
The very first year Upper Deck put out SPX i had my biggest hit ever.
Was in a mall & one of the sports stores had the packs at the register.
I almost bought some but passed cauz i was gonna stop at a card shop 5 minutes away.
Turned out the packs were almost twice the amount at the card shop.
So when leaving the shop, i ask my gf at the time to swing back by the mall.
She says she didn't feel like it so i said ok fine.
But after a minute i changed my mind and told her to go by there.
I bought 4 packs off top of the box.
2 of the 4 packs were huge.
In one i got the Michael Jordan auto exchange card.
I had no idea how much it was worth untili called a shop i dealt with in Lakeland Fl & he offered me $3,000 on the spot.
Word was there were 100 or less printed & signed.
It eventually booked for close to $4500 if i remember correctly.
In the other pack, i also hit the Penny Hardaway auto exchange which booked for 1,000 early on. (He offered me $500).
Told my gf that she almost caused me to miss out on wgat happened!
I ended up selling both because i got a good offer & knew the prices would drop.
Ebay was still fairly new & the guy at Lakeland card shop sold it for me to a buyer in California for $3500.
I used to run contests here actually & would give away cards as prizes. Im sure some of the threads are still around.
I stopped collecting 5-6 years ago.
Ive almost started back a few times but just haven...
http://www.star-telegram.com/sports/mlb/texas-rangers/article96947062.htmlAugust 20, 2016 6:58 PMBaseball cards a reminder of game’s lesser-known players
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Bob Allison, pictured here with the Minnesota Twins in 1964, was a three-time All-Star and also participated in the short-lived TV series Home Run Derby.Marty LederhandlerAP
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Bob Allison, pictured here with the Minnesota Twins in 1964, was a three-time All-Star and also participated in the short-lived TV series Home Run Derby.Marty LederhandlerAP
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Among the lessons taught to me as a youth by dear ol’ Dad was that telling the truth is always the best course.
Two instances of blatant lying come to mind:
At the grocery store in third grade, when I went back to the bakery for another powdered doughnut hole after explicitly being told not to do it, only to get caught with powdered sugar on my lips as I said that I hadn’t had another.
Two weeks time served.
As a 16-year-old, when my hunk-of-junk vehicle died and rolled into our mailbox, snapping in half the post that was holding it up. Unprompted, I informed my parents that the strong winds outside had just toppled our mailbox.
Hard labor (replacing the mailbox the next morning) plus two weeks time served.
Those moments were brought back to mind by swimmer Ryan Lochte, a 32-year-old child who stepped in it big time with a massive lie, dragged his friends into it, dragged the U.S. Olympic Committee into it, dragged Matt Lauer into it, dragged the already sullied city of Rio de Janeiro into it, and then dragged my Twitter timeline into it.
While I tried to escape the round-the-clock coverage Thursday of Lochte’s misdeeds, the fine folks at eBay sent an email reminding me that I had yet to purchase the 1960 Topps Baseball card No. 320, Bob Allison All-Star Rookie.
When dear ol’ Dad wasn’t grounding me for my unabashed lying, he was slowly but surely trying to complete the set. When he passed last year, the first thing I made sure I inherited was those cards.
Thanks to the fine folks at eBay, we’re down to 17 cards remaining after a 15-card splurge. Some of the 17 are biggies: high-numbered and high-priced All-Star cards of Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays and Hank Aaron. Two are replacements: Brooks Robinson and rival All-Stars Mantle and Clete Boyer — also not cheap.
Those players, of course, are well-known. Some of the players whose cards I bought Thursday, though, aren’t as famous to recent generations. Here’s a look at a few of them:
Card No. 4, Bob Purkey, Cincinnati Reds: A right-hander who featured the knuckleball, Purkey was a three-time All-Star with the Reds (1958, 1961, 1962). His best season was in 1962, when he went 23-5 with a 2.81 ERA and finished tied for third with Billy Pierce in Cy Young voting. Don Drysdale won it.
Card No. 72, Detroit Tigers team photo: The thing about these team cards is that none of the players, coaches or whoever are plainly recognizable. Maybe someone can pick out Al Kaline, but not easily. The 1960 Tigers started 5-0 and then lost their next 10 en route to a 71-83 record. Don Mossi and his ears ranked third in WAR. There’s a guy who might be recognizable.
Card No. 208, Chicago White Sox team photo: A year after interrupting the New York Yankees’ AL dominance by winning the pennant, the White Sox finished third in the AL but 10 games behind the Yankees. Chicago still had some go-go in them. Luis Aparicio stole 51 bases. Nellie Fox had 10 triples. Minnie Minoso drove in 105 runs.
Card No. 320, Bob Allison, All-Star Rookie: The 1959 AL rookie of year hit 30 homers in his first full season with the Washington Senators and hit 256 homers in 13 seasons with Washington and Minnesota. My memory of Allison is from the greatest baseball show ever — Home Run Derby. He lost to Mays and Aaron but beat Bob Cerv.
Card No. 529, Norm Sherry, Los Angeles Dodgers: His playing career was unspectacular and brief, lasting only five seasons, but Sherry made his mark as a pitching coach for Hall of Fame manager Dick Williams in Montreal and San Diego and Roger Craig in San Francisco. Sherry went to the World Series with the 1984 Padres and 1989 Giants.
Card No. 535, Whitey Lockman, Cincinnati Reds: Lockman’s best seasons were well behind him, and he retired after the 1960 season. In 1952, though, he was an All-Star for the New York Giants and was their regular first baseman from 1948-1955. He homered in his first career at-bat, and scored on Bobby Thomson’s “Shot Heard ’Round the World” in 1951. Lockman also served as Chicago Cubs manager from 1972-1974.
Card No. 545, Carl Sawatski, St. Louis Cardinals: This catcher, like many players of his era, had his career interrupted by military service. Sawatski was never a regular, playing no more than 86 games in a season, but he won a World Series ring with the 1957 Milwaukee Braves. After his career, he became an executive in the minor leagues and was a longtime president of the Texas League.
Card No. 556, Charlie Neal, All-Star: A native of Longview, this second baseman was an All-Star in 1959 and 1960 with the Dodgers. His best season was 1959, when he batted .287 with 30 doubles, 11 triples, 19 homers, 21 sacrifice hits and won a Gold Glove. He batted .370 with two homers as the Dodgers won the World Series. Neal also had the misfortune of playing for the 1962 New York Mets, who went 40-120 in their first season.
Jeff Wilson: 817-390-7760, @JeffWilson_FWST
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Among the lessons taught to me as a youth by dear ol’ Dad was that telling the truth is always the best course.
Two instances of blatant lying come to mind:
At the grocery store in third grade, when I went back to the bakery for another powdered doughnut hole after explicitly being told not to do it, only to get caught with powdered sugar on my lips as I said that I hadn’t had another.
Two weeks time served.
As a 16-year-old, when my hunk-of-junk vehicle died and rolled into our mailbox, snapping in half the post that was holding it up. Unprompted, I informed my parents that the strong winds outside had just toppled our mailbox.
Hard labor (replacing the mailbox the next morning) plus two weeks time served.
Those moments were brought back to mind by swimmer Ryan Lochte, a 32-year-old child who stepped in it big time with a massive lie, dragged his friends into it, dragged the U.S. Olympic Committee into it, dragged Matt Lauer into it, dragged the already sullied city of Rio de Janeiro into it, and then dragged my Twitter timeline into it.
While I tried to escape the round-the-clock coverage Thursday of Lochte’s misdeeds, the fine folks at eBay sent an email reminding me that I had yet to purchase the 1960 Topps Baseball card No. 320, Bob Allison All-Star Rookie.
When dear ol’ Dad wasn’t grounding me for my unabashed lying, he was slowly but surely trying to complete the set. When he passed last year, the first thing I made sure I inherited was those cards.
Thanks to the fine folks at eBay, we’re down to 17 cards remaining after a 15-card splurge. Some of the 17 are biggies: high-numbered and high-priced All-Star cards of Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays and Hank Aaron. Two are replacements: Brooks Robinson and rival All-Stars Mantle and Clete Boyer — also not cheap.
Those players, of course, are well-known. Some of the players whose cards I bought Thursday, though, aren’t as famous to recent generations. Here’s a look at a few of them:
Card No. 4, Bob Purkey, Cincinnati Reds: A right-hander who featured the knuckleball, Purkey was a three-time All-Star with the Reds (1958, 1961, 1962). His best season was in 1962, when he went 23-5 with a 2.81 ERA and finished tied for third with Billy Pierce in Cy Young voting. Don Drysdale won it.
Card No. 72, Detroit Tigers team photo: The thing about these team cards is that none of the players, coaches or whoever are plainly recognizable. Maybe someone can pick out Al Kaline, but not easily. The 1960 Tigers started 5-0 and then lost their next 10 en route to a 71-83 record. Don Mossi and his ears ranked third in WAR. There’s a guy who might be recognizable.
Card No. 208, Chicago White Sox team photo: A year after interrupting the New York Yankees’ AL dominance by winning the pennant, the White Sox finished third in the AL but 10 games behind the Yankees. Chicago still had some go-go in them. Luis Aparicio stole 51 bases. Nellie Fox had 10 triples. Minnie Minoso drove in 105 runs.
Card No. 320, Bob Allison, All-Star Rookie: The 1959 AL rookie of year hit 30 homers in his first full season with the Washington Senators and hit 256 homers in 13 seasons with Washington and Minnesota. My memory of Allison is from the greatest baseball show ever — Home Run Derby. He lost to Mays and Aaron but beat Bob Cerv.
Card No. 529, Norm Sherry, Los Angeles Dodgers: His playing career was unspectacular and brief, lasting only five seasons, but Sherry made his mark as a pitching coach for Hall of Fame manager Dick Williams in Montreal and San Diego and Roger Craig in San Francisco. Sherry went to the World Series with the 1984 Padres and 1989 Giants.
Card No. 535, Whitey Lockman, Cincinnati Reds: Lockman’s best seasons were well behind him, and he retired after the 1960 season. In 1952, though, he was an All-Star for the New York Giants and was their regular first baseman from 1948-1955. He homered in his first career at-bat, and scored on Bobby Thomson’s “Shot Heard ’Round the World” in 1951. Lockman also served as Chicago Cubs manager from 1972-1974.
Card No. 545, Carl Sawatski, St. Louis Cardinals: This catcher, like many players of his era, had his career interrupted by military service. Sawatski was never a regular, playing no more than 86 games in a season, but he won a World Series ring with the 1957 Milwaukee Braves. After his career, he became an executive in the minor leagues and was a longtime president of the Texas League.
Card No. 556, Charlie Neal, All-Star: A native of Longview, this second baseman was an All-Star in 1959 and 1960 with the Dodgers. His best season was 1959, when he batted .287 with 30 doubles, 11 triples, 19 homers, 21 sacrifice hits and won a Gold Glove. He batted .370 with two homers as the Dodgers won the World Series. Neal also had the misfortune of playing for the 1962 New York Mets, who went 40-120 in their first season.
Jeff Wilson: 817-390-7760, @JeffWilson_FWST
Your story is exactly the reason why those cards have value, most people have similar stories to yours. Once those old cards that very few held on to were deemed valuable, people bought and kept the new ones and the card companies overproduced them, so those newer ones are almost worthless.
