ATTN : Hackers

[lander]

Can we compromise? Can you just attack shit books.

Thanks.

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Even in a joking manner we don't want to encourage this sort of stuff. Thanks.

[This message was edited by Patrick McIrish on September 23, 2003 at 12:02 PM.]

 

[RPM]

thats just wrong lander.

 

[bullsye]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by lander:
Can we compromise? Can you just attack shit books like First Fidelity & MajorBetting during football days (Thur - Sun).

Thanks.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol!

 

[IntuitionBET]

lander - Iheard some rumors that a certain sportsbook is behind this and is paying these individuals to do these attacks...have you heard anything about WHO is doing this?

 

[lander]

Nope, sorry, but I haven't heard anything that wasn't posted on the forum.

 

[TTinCO]

I don't know about the Panama link, but Hollywood has been served with a $30K extortion demand-which Will has basically told the attackers to shove up their ass-as he should.

 

[TTinCO]

Actually, I'm 95% that the Panama link and it's implied links are complete BS.

This DDOS is probably coming from hundreds, if not thousands of different sources.

 

[WildBill]

Maybe its the Christian Coalition together with the NCAA

So how does this end? Is it possible that they just get pissed that no one is paying and decide to basically shutdown a book for a couple of months to show they mean business? What eventually stops the attack?

 

[lander]

Hopefully the bill from the ISP will shut them down ...
I'm not sure how big their budget is, but mulitple T3's aren't cheap (assuming it's not a trojan attack)

 

[TTinCO]

WildBill, the only "real" fix is for the ISP's to track these guys down and bust them. Until that happens, this shit will continue.

 

[lander]

I hope they nerds get bunked with Kobe the rapist

 

[eh]

lander it is indeed of the trojan variety. The bandwitdth is gratis thanks to an untold amount of insecure boxes with broadband.

 

[TTinCO]

Edit-Java is correct about the ability to stop the attack.

[This message was edited by TTinCO on September 20, 2003 at 04:06 PM.]

 

[Java]

TTinCo-

Not quite true. The zombie programs can check back with the "master" for instructions.

Example (not really sure if this is how it's done, but way it might be done):

Hacker creates some hidden webpage. The program checks this page once or twice a day. The page contains IP addresses to attack and maybe a link to a new hidden page for tomorrow's attack.

So, the zombies can get updated instructions. There are much more sophisticated ways to accomplish communication with the zombies, but my example was just to illustrate that it is not difficult.

 

[TTinCO]

You're probably right Java. I've never heard of a trojan with those capabilities, but it can't be that tough to do.

If you're a programmer, I'm sure you know more about the inner workings of this crap than I do.

 

[Java]

TTinCo-

I just got the idea because I often program my software with kill-switch type flags in a file. I can change the file info without restarting the program, and it picks up the changes next time it checks. There's no reason the "file" couldn't be on a webpage instead of a normal file on the computer running the zombie.

There are a lot of programs like the SETI Project, weather and medical research that let Internet users download "safe trojans" that work on solving these big super-computer problems when your computer is sitting idle while you read a page. These programs run for a few hours, report back the results and then get a new set of instructions. It's call "Distributed Computing" and it's a way for ordinary people to help in cancer research and other important stuff.

The problem is that the techique can easily be turned around for a hacker to do damage by infecting many computers.