Just another anti-military...anti Bush manipulated headline by the AP for the Sheeple.
How many people will even bother to look at the real stats, which suggest military suicides are barely higher than civilians given the same demographic adjustments?
Classic data manipulation for a headline...gotta sell those papers to the libs.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9614O200&show_article=1
:lolBIG:...good answer. :toast:
Anything to do with what?
The fact that their suicide rates aren't statistically higher than civilians of the same group?
It's just a typical AP smear...and sheeple fall for it as "news".
MJ, may I remind you of the countless statistics you have provided that indeed meant nothing. And now you go and and call this stat a smear campaign?
Yes, the current suicide rate in the military is only slightly higher than in the general public. So what? The point of this statistic is that there has been a significant increase in suicides in the American military while, as far as I know, there was no such increase in general.
So something problematic is increasing, but when there are reports about it you choose to ignore them and call them smeasr campaigns just because you think that the size of the problem is still tolerable? Nice mindset, really.
Yes, the current suicide rate in the military is only slightly higher than in the general public. So what? The point of this statistic is that there has been a significant increase in suicides in the American military while, as far as I know, there was no such increase in general.
So something problematic is increasing, but when there are reports about it you choose to ignore them and call them smeasr campaigns just because you think that the size of the problem is still tolerable? Nice mindset, really.
actually Fletch, when citing a news organization like AP, that reasoning doesn't apply.
For them it's about "we create, alter, manipulate; you swallow".
It is stressful, and I probably would expect their suicide rates to be higher at all times. They see stuff most people never see.
I can't believe disrespect and ridicule of their efforts helps either.
I'm just pointing out that the news is what they decide the news is, and that they present such news in a manner which serves their purposes. Biased at the worst, ratings oriented at best. Rarely honest and objective.
the majority of suicides occur after deployment, not in theater. after a year in the middle of nowhere, then to return to the states, old habits come back with a vengeance. it seems like some people don't love you anymore. people tell you that it's you who's changed. your money is gone because you trusted the wrong person, and not only is your money gone but you're behind on the bills as soon as you step through the door. getting readjusted to regular life is harder than people realize. you'd think that coming home would be a blessing, but there are some who actually find it a curse.
Preussen...I am aware that my last post to you pointed out the fact that you were completely wrong about a large number of US states using homicide charges for the murder of unborn babies in womb.
It was, I might add, just another of countless episodes of pointing out that you were just pulling things out of your ass and presenting them as fact.
Your humorous answer was something to the effect of...well...the laws are just wrong then. Stupid Americans.
That about sums up our furry East German friend here at the Rx politico.
My points about the suicide article stands...it's obviously meant for manipulation. The statistics used do not support the headline very well.
If you actually read the article and think through the statistics...isn't it in fact remarkable that our soldiers do not in real terms have a higher suicide rate than comparable civilians?
To me that suggests the opposite of the what the headline tries to imply. We must be doing something right here? Can we do more of it? It's still remarkable.
See...the glass just might be half full. But the AP wouldn't want to cast it that way...now would they? Or a former East German for that matter.
Military suicides for 2007-8 highest for a two year period since 1990
That's all I got from the headline.
Other "implied" messages are of course wholly in the imagination of each individual reader.
Certainly disappointing when anyone elects to terminate their own life. We can hope that those most closely involved with our US military personnel take steps that might help reduce this recent increase in military suicides.
That's all I got from the headline.
Other "implied" messages are of course wholly in the imagination of each individual reader.
Certainly disappointing when anyone elects to terminate their own life. We can hope that those most closely involved with our US military personnel take steps that might help reduce this recent increase in military suicides.
