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He may very well be part of the equation. After all, at the end of the day, increasing taxes on corporations ain't good for business and thus it ain't for the markets, increasing taxes on dividends and capital gains reduces investment incentives and thus ain't good for the markets, increasing regulations (ignoring the fact that government was part of the problem) ain't good for business and thus ain't good for the markets and driving down consumer confidence with constant attacks on the economy for the last two years ain't good for spending and thus ain't good for business and thus ain't good for the markets.

The markets dislike uncertainty, we may very well be having the Obama dive. I know his words and his policy positions ain't helping.
 

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Yeah, it always happens when Dems are anticipated to follow up the Pugs. It's been factored in.

Lot of slop to clean up and some heavy measures sure to follow.

Today's dive is just as Tiz and DP are saying, it's the currency market driving the wackiness.

Hope you got out of those American (equity) Funds and into a Gov'y short or intermediate. I did back in March. Saved an average haircut of about 35%
 

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It's panic, it may even have something to do with the fact that it's a Friday in October.

Sometimes stock traders can be superstitious too. :ohno:

Be interesting to see if things stabilize after the election.
 

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Isn't October the worst month for the markets by far?

I wonder what the net results are for Fridays in October?
 

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October thru Nov., is shit. Best time to get in I think is 1stQ of the new year, historically.
 

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I found my answer, September is worse

While it’s true that some of the most spectacular crashes in history have occurred in October, the reality is that it’s September that has the worst track record of all for stock-market performance.
Indeed, since 1950, September has been the worst performing month on a percentage basis for all three major U.S. indices - the Dow Jones Industrial Average, the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index and the Nasdaq Composite Index.
As you no doubt know, September 2008 was a particularly harsh example of this general rule:

  • The Dow shed 911.28 points over the course of September, a decline of 7.9%. On Sept. 29, the Dow incurred in its largest daily point loss to date, plunging 777.68 points.
  • The S&P 500 fared even worse for the month, plunging 11.2% with a 143.22-point loss.
  • And the Nasdaq was crushed last month with a 14.0% decline as it lost 332.34 points.
Over the past 57 years, the blue-chip Dow, known worldwide as a bellwether indicator of overall U.S. economic health, has experienced a loss 63% of the time in September versus just 42% in October.
The bottom line: Over time - despite its reputation - October is actually more likely to mean a gain for your portfolio than it is a loss.
And that’s not all. Since 1950, the Dow’s average gain for the month of October is 0.6%. But September leaves investors deep in the red. During that same period, the average return for the month of September is actually a negative 1.0%.
Infamous Octobers

So why does October have such a lousy reputation? After all, more than half of the time since 1950, October has been a boon for investors. But the answer is really simple: When markets crash in October, they do so with gusto. And this fourth quarter is already off to rocky start.
For the first two days of this month, the Dow is down 367.81 points, a decline of 3.4%, to close at 10,482.85 - its lowest level since June 2005. The tech-laden Nasdaq Composite shed 115.16 points, a decline of 5.5% to close at 1,976.72. And the broad-based S&P 500 dropped 50.46 points, a decline of 4.3%, to close at 1,114.28.
If you look at a list of the 20 largest one-day percentage losses for the Dow, eight of those downer days were in October. No other month shows up more often.
On a point basis, four of the biggest single-day losses occurred in October. In that category, however, October comes in second place - to September - which now boasts six of the biggest-single-day point losses, thanks to its record-setting 778-point plunge earlier this week.
But those are just numbers. And October’s stock-market infamy grows out of its association with some of the notable “Black” days of the market. Here are some of the worst:

  • In October of 1929, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 kicked off one of the darkest periods in U.S. history, the Great Depression, which would last until the onset of World War II-fueled economic surge that began in 1939. The first such drop occurred on “Black Thursday,” Oct. 24, 1929. But it would be the following Monday and Tuesday, which came to be known by their own “Black” monikers, that would kick off widespread market panic with their back-to-back, double-digit drops in the Dow.

  • In October 1987, another “Black Monday” would occur, when the Dow dropped more than 500 points and lost 22.6% that Oct. 19. The crash began with the Hong Kong market and quickly sped West. The causes of the 1987 crash are a cause for debate, and some have actually labeled it as a “black swan” event - hard to explain and beyond the realm of normal explanation. Just one week later, the month of October would add another nasty-trading-day notch to its belt. On Monday, Oct. 26, the Dow dropped 156.83 points, an 8.0% decline that still ranks in the Top 10 of daily percentage-point losses.

  • Twenty years after the 1987 Black Monday - to the very day (Oct. 19, 2007) - worries about the growing subprime mortgage crisis would send the Dow nose-diving again. Concerns over the number of write-downs and losses at financial firms, a weak dollar and oil prices that punched through the $90 a barrel level (which at the time was a record-high for the black gold), would send the Dow down 366.94 points, a loss of 2.6%.
 

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It's panic, it may even have something to do with the fact that it's a Friday in October.

Sometimes stock traders can be superstitious too. :ohno:

Be interesting to see if things stabilize after the election.


No panic yet. Volume is pretty low.
 

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Dubya has over 2 months left in office but Willie the weasel is busy figuring out how to blame Obama for this mess.
 

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I've listed reasons why Obama's policies will hurt the market, tell me Punted too often, do you care to discuss anything specific.

I know how painting with a broad brush and blaming Bush for everything is easy, helps you to sleep at night knowing Obama is going to rescue you, but is there anything specific from the OP you care to disagree with? Maybe give a reason or two?

Of course, you can just stick to your simpleton Straw Man style, I really expect nothing more.
 

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I've listed reasons why Obama's policies will hurt the market, tell me Punted too often, do you care to discuss anything specific.

I know how painting with a broad brush and blaming Bush for everything is easy, helps you to sleep at night knowing Obama is going to rescue you, but is there anything specific from the OP you care to disagree with? Maybe give a reason or two?

Of course, you can just stick to your simpleton Straw Man style, I really expect nothing more.

I read your list and found it full of 1/2 truth and total falsehoods. Given that is my opinion I find no common ground to discuss individual issues with you because I feel that you would not be dicussing in good faith.
 

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I read your list and found it full of 1/2 truth and total falsehoods. Given that is my opinion I find no common ground to discuss individual issues with you because I feel that you would not be dicussing in good faith.

Not one falsehood presented, the Strawman is your soul.
 

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