Are Nevada Sports Book days numbered?

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While betting on sports is still profitable for most Nevada casinos, the margins get worse each year. Maybe it’s time for everyone in the industry and those that regulate it to realize that, as technology has changed casino games and slots, technology should be allowed to change sports betting. Part of that might include closing many of the sports books.

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Charlie,
aren't they testing those stand-alone betting terminals in a few of the bars. If you ask me, those are the future of sports betting as far as land-based books. Of course, the Gaming Commission needs to make them easier to use for them to be popular. Right now, you have to deposit somewhere and then get a pin or something like that. Just have a bill receptor and make it like a slot machine and they could take off.
 

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Green - Yes, I have seem them in a few places. including the sports book at Green Valley Stations Casino in Henderson Nevada. But I NEVER see anybody using them....Yet!

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Charlie- Could you please IM me on Aol at your earlist conveniance.

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Do they consider that the primary reason the revenues are going down MIGHT be because they are all chicken-shit and won't take any real action.
 

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Here is an article I wrote in Feb about the kiosks...

Sports Betting Kiosks For Taverns Are Being Tested In Southern Nevada
by Jeremy Martin
Doc's Sports

There may come a time in the near future when sports fans at almost any tavern in Nevada can get up from their hot wings and beer during half time of a game and saunter across the bar to place a half-time bet.

That is the vision for a new technology, Sports Bet Xpress (SBX), which entered a local beta test run of approximately two months on Feb. 3. The sports wagering terminal, which is a joint venture between three companies - VirtGame Corp., Multimedia Enterprises and United Coin - is now operational in 25 Las Vegas-area bars.

Initial feedback for the SBX terminals has been "phenomenal," according to John English, president and Chief Executive Officer for Las Vegas-based Multimedia Enterprises, the corporation that conceptualized the idea to VirtGame. The company put nearly 15 months into the planning and execution of the project. Since sports betting terminals are new to the Nevada landscape, the Nevada Gaming Control Board (NGCB) scrutinized the project very heavily. "As far as the gaming board is concerned, it is a first time product so they had to go through every little aspect of it," says English.

Once the idea was ready to move ahead, Multimedia Enterprises needed partners that could help with the technology, marketing and distribution. They decided to team with VirtGame, which is a provider of sports book software to Nevada casinos, and United Coin, a Las Vegas-based slot route company that owns and operates approximately 8,400 gaming machines in nearly 680 locations across the state.

Designed for ease of use, the terminals run on Windows-based software developed by San Diego-based VirtGame. The custom-designed terminals feature a 14-inch LCD touch screen that allows users to place a variety of sports wagers via Las Vegas casinos. The results of the test run will be evaluated and brought before the NGCB soon after March Madness. If gaming gives the go-ahead, these terminals could become a fixture across Nevada by football season.

VirtGame is responsible for both the technology and the contracts with participating sports books. All bets placed during the test run will go through Bally's Las Vegas. After the trial period, SBX would be available to any sportsbooks in Nevada that were interested in participating, according to Bruce Merati, CEO for VirtGame.

During the beta test, bettors who register through the SBX system must physically open a betting account at Bally's. Once the user makes a deposit and shows the proper identification, he or she is free to make a wager at any location where SBX is offered. Gaming laws state that no money can come in or out of the betting machines, so all tickets must be cashed at the sports book.

In order to get the machines out in the field, Multimedia Enterprises chose to team with United Coin, which already had wide distribution agreements for its gaming systems throughout the state. The union, according to United Coin President Bill Nader, was a win-win situation for all involved.

"It's a pretty nice fit for us, since [VirtGame] has the technology that goes into the books and we have the distribution network to put the terminals out in the field," he says. "It's a nice addition for our customers as well as their players, rather than having to leave [the establishment] at half time to go around and make wagers that they could be making at the location where they are watching the game. We have had a number of customers ask us when they can have [an SBX terminal]."

Any profits to be made from SBX for the companies involved will likely come in the future. VirtGame and United Coin split a $1 convenience fee that users are charged for each transaction. Multimedia makes their money from the licensing agreement.

"It is such a new system and if you develop something new you don't know whether it is going to be generating X dollars or Y dollars," says Merati. "You can't just go and arbitrarily decide what the revenue model is going to be. We need to have some kind of history established. [United Coin] needs to do the same thing and then we will come up with something that is reasonable and works for us and works for the books. If SBX is approved, this thing is going to be rolled out to hundreds of locations, maybe over a thousand."

SBX is offered to the bars free of charge, but they do not share in any revenue that is generated. However, the machines are a nice perk for the establishment to attract business and keep customers in their facility.

"Our big thing is that we want to give people a reason to come into our building and stay in our building," says Robert Snyder, Chief Financial Officer for Big Dog's Hospitality Group, which operates three of the bars participating in the beta test. "Obviously, the more often they come and the longer they stay, the [better] chance we have to make money. Our places are like most taverns; they tend to center around sporting events. It just seemed like a natural thing to have some kind of sports book angle."

The casinos will likely be the big winners if this technology is approved for mass distribution, as they will gain some new customers they might not otherwise have had. "When it comes time to cash the ticket, the [sports books] really want these people back in the casino," says English. "We are not out to try to take business away from the casino. We are more of a conduit to provide them with more business."

Merati believes that many books will want to participate once the trial run is completed. The three companies involved wanted to wait until after the Super Bowl to begin the beta test because that involves just one big day of betting. They say that March Madness will be the true test of the system's popularity and feasibility since the event is spread out over several weeks.

One factor that might hinder SBX in achieving widespread success is the fact that users must physically deposit money into an account at the sports book before they start using the system. Merati hopes that, in the future, account wagering laws will become more relaxed so that SBX will be more convenient for potential customers. But for the time being all users must head to the casino before sports betting convenience is available at their fingertips.

"The only reason I could think that it might not work is because it takes a long time for people to get registered and to get used to the idea that they have to go sign up somewhere else," adds Snyder. "And I do think that's a negative, that they have to go down to Bally's or wherever. I think that once you get people to sign up it's going to be great. It's a convenience to our customers."

If all goes well for the test run, expect to see these machines popping up all over Nevada. Long-term plans involve expanding the business to include convenience stores and pari-mutuel locations.
 

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CBS wich supplies about 99% of sportsbooks with there computer software and equipment has started a test with there own kiosk
 

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I can't see how they will close books.The kiosks are a good idea to put in bars and things like that but I can't see closing the books down.What are you going to do when there are gauntlets of people at every sportsbook in town around superbowl time or first weekend of the final four.Can you imagine the time it will take trying to get tourists to register themselves and take their picture and wait to recognized by the computer system.It would be a fvcking mess.
I have used the Leroys one at the Silverton.It is a piece of shit if you ask me.You have to stand there and let the camera take your picture and find you in the system.It takes a long time to finally get your bet in.The other problem is they have the same rules as phone accounts,for right now at least.The bullshit 2200 dollars a day.Now if they do get rid of that rule for the kiosks who is going to be there to fill out 8300 forms and all that shit,the computer?Also are we talking about eliminating the race part of the books too?I can just imagine that.These horse betters will be pushing these things over and stomping the shit out of them after 1 day.A late scratch at Belmont or Santa Anita on a Saturday.I can just imagine the madness at the lines for these things.Less than a minute to post and guys will be having to take their picture and go through the bullshit motions to void their tickets.Until these kiosks work like the ones at the tracks it will not fly.Besides you know there are a shitload of guys who would not have a clue how to work these things.My Grandfather bets horses.If he was forced to use one of these things he would just walk out of the door.So then comes the question will they just eliminate the sports side to these places and still have clerks puching race tickets.What would be the point of that why not just keep a window open for sports only like most places do already.I think they will be good to increase handle by puting them in sports bars and what not but closing the books down I don't see it.
 

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Jeremy, thanks for posting here at the RX. I haven't seen any articles by you (through Doc Sports) to be posted on the RX home page for a quite a while. Are we not getting your articles anymore? Keep up the good work!

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Lets see, you have to go to the book to open an account and provide proper ID. No money can change hands at these portals so if you want to cash your ticket you have to head back to the casino. This is going to be a bust.
 

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Thanks Charlie. I am working on some major articles that will be released closer to football season but until then we will be sending one here and there. Of course, the RX is still on our list!
 

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They already do, the Riv who has a book which is ran by Leyroys, has such a betting kiosk. You put in your money via bill acceptor, have a picture taking for NGC purposes, and you are set to go.

Make things easier for calculating payouts, parlays, etc... also no long clerk lines, or stalling the line to get board numbers.

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I think the whole picture taking is ridiculous. Issue a player a card that works like an ATM and give him a choice of using it as a stored-value card or cash as he goes. And for goodness sakes, get rid of the damn $2200/day limits, how they can justify that is mindboggling. Are they going to claim that you could be sitting in California and using a remote control to allow some robot to make your bets for you or something? Gee wiz, these types of things are exactly what I talk about when I say the casinos and regulators have to stop acting like we are still in the 60s or 70s with this stuff. Why do they need a picture? Why do they need limits when the kiosks are physically present only in Nevada? Unbelievable how they take an idea that could take off and put heavy shackles on it to make sure it doesn't.

I saw one last night in the Peppermill in Reno. Looked nice and was well placed, but there was only one. There were 4 clerks on duty in the meantime. Reason why it was there, according to a clerk, was that it was right next to the poker room and in front of the TVs that show the races, if someone wanted a last minute wager they wouldn't even have to walk the 100 feet to the windows. I still think though it won't work until they clear out the staff completely and put many books' lines on the system to make it competitive. Until then it isn't much different than just adding another clerk station.
 

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