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FACT CHECK: Obama has it both ways on pork

Feb 9, 6:25 PM (ET)

By CALVIN WOODWARD

WASHINGTON (AP) - At least Route 31 is a road to somewhere.

President Barack Obama had it both ways Monday when he promoted his stimulus plan in Indiana. He bragged about getting Congress to produce a package with no pork, yet boasted it will do good things for a Hoosier highway and a downtown overpass, just the kind of local projects lawmakers lard into big spending bills.

Obama's sales pitch on the enormous package he wants Congress to make law has sizzle as well as steak. He's projecting job creation numbers that may be impossible to verify and glossing over some ethical problems that bedeviled his team.

In recent years, the so-called Bridge to Nowhere in Alaska came to symbolize the worst excesses of congressional earmarks, a device that allows a member of Congress to add money for local projects in legislation, practically under the radar.

Nothing so bold, or specific, as that now-discarded bridge project is contained in the stimulus package. That's not to say the package steers clear of waste or parochial interests. Obama played to such interests Monday, speaking at one point as if he'd come to fill potholes.

A look at some of Obama's claims in Elkhart, Ind., in advance of a prime-time news conference called to make his case to the largest possible audience:

OBAMA: "I know that there are a lot of folks out there who've been saying, 'Oh, this is pork, and this is money that's going to be wasted,' and et cetera, et cetera. Understand, this bill does not have a single earmark in it, which is unprecedented for a bill of this size. ... There aren't individual pork projects that members of Congress are putting into this bill."

THE FACTS: There are no "earmarks," as they are usually defined, inserted by lawmakers in the bill. Still, some of the projects bear the prime characteristics of pork - tailored to benefit specific interests or to have thinly disguised links to local projects.

For example, the latest version contains $2 billion for a clean-coal power plant with specifications matching one in Mattoon, Ill., $10 million for urban canals, $2 billion for manufacturing advanced batteries for hybrid cars, and $255 million for a polar icebreaker and other "priority procurements" by the Coast Guard.

Obama told his Elkhart audience that Indiana will benefit from work on "roads like U.S. 31 here in Indiana that Hoosiers count on." He added: "And I know that a new overpass downtown would make a big difference for businesses and families right here in Elkhart."

U.S. 31 is a north-south highway serving South Bend, 15 miles from Elkhart in the northern part of the state.

OBAMA: "I've appointed hundreds of people, all of whom are outstanding Americans who are doing a great job. There are a couple who had problems before they came into my administration, in terms of their taxes. ... I made a mistake ... I don't want to send the signal that there are two sets of rules."

He added: "Everybody will acknowledge that we have set up the highest standard ever for lobbyists not working in the administration."

THE FACTS: Two of his appointees, former Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle for secretary of health and human services and Nancy Killefer as his chief compliance officer, dropped out after reports they had not paid a portion of their taxes.

Obama previously acknowledged he "screwed up" in making it seem to Americans that there is one set of tax compliance rules for VIPs and another set for everyone else. Yet his choice for treasury secretary, Timothy Geithner, hung in and achieved the post despite having belatedly paid $34,000 to the IRS, an agency Geithner now oversees.

That could leave the perception that there is one set of rules for Geithner and another set for everyone else.

On lobbyists, Obama has in fact established tough new rules barring them from working for his administration. But the ban is not absolute.

William J. Lynn III, tapped to be the No. 2 official at the Defense Department, recently lobbied for military contractor Raytheon. William Corr, chosen as deputy secretary at Health and Human Services, has lobbied as an anti-tobacco advocate. And Geithner's choice for chief of staff, Mark Patterson, is an ex-lobbyist from Goldman Sachs.

OBAMA: "The plan that we've put forward will save or create 3 million to 4 million jobs over the next two years."

THE FACTS: Job creation projections are uncertain even in stable times, and some of the economists relied on by Obama in making his forecast acknowledge a great deal of uncertainty in their numbers.

Beyond that, it's unlikely the nation will ever know how many jobs are saved as a result of the stimulus. While it's clear when jobs are abolished, there's no economic gauge that tracks job preservation.

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Associated Press writers Tom Raum and Jim Kuhnhenn contributed to this report.
 

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Facts and government do not mix no matter which side your on.
 

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It infuriates me when he says there is no pork in this bill.

He also said that we need the government to make things better.

He also said that we need to get away from the failed policies of the last 8 years and that the election proved that. The odd thing is that Bush's policies of home ownership for everyone is exactly what Obama pushed too and is what got us into this mess.

He also said cutting taxes has been shown time and time again to never work.

:ohno:

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America deserves a depression for voting this liberal clown in. He was one of the most liberal members of Congress.

No wonder the American people are so easily manipulated. They know nothing of what it takes to have a healthy economy.
 
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It infuriates me when he says there is no pork in this bill.

He also said that we need the government to make things better.

He also said that we need to get away from the failed policies of the last 8 years and that the election proved that. The odd thing is that Bush's policies of home ownership for everyone is exactly what Obama pushed too and is what got us into this mess.

He also said cutting taxes has been shown time and time again to never work.

:ohno:


##)

America deserves a depression for voting this liberal clown in. He was one of the most liberal members of Congress.

No wonder the American people are so easily manipulated. They know nothing of what it takes to have a healthy economy.


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quantum, why is this bill (stimulus package) so much worse than the ones Bush pushed through? We saw what giving to the rich and higher ups does, they like to spend a lot of it on themselves.

At least there is some real effort to boost the middle class here, I believe is the heart of America.
 

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quantum, why is this bill (stimulus package) so much worse than the ones Bush pushed through? We saw what giving to the rich and higher ups does, they like to spend a lot of it on themselves.

At least there is some real effort to boost the middle class here, I believe is the heart of America.

Bush's tax cuts helped the economy recover from the Tech Bubble. The rich and higher ups usually own businesses. When they get more money they use it to expand their business which in-turn creates more jobs.

Worked for Bush. Worked for Reagan. Worked for Clinton too when he didn't veto budgets put together by the Republican Congress.

It's just too bad Bush turned socialist by offering programs to help people get down payments for houses they couldn't afford.
 

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Anybody notice how Obama says he is going to save 4 million jobs through this spendingilus?
So when we end up losing 2 million jobs he can say it would have been 6 million without the spendingilus.
 

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yeah, wonder what happened to the word "CREATE" ... now's it's "SAVING"? ... that only took a week to change.

wake me when this is over
 

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