Anyone listen to Brian Burke on XM today?

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He was on this morning and it's replaying again right now. What an interesting guy. Is he the right guy to run that organization or what? Really good stuff.
Especially talking about the dirtbag media and how he doesn't care
what language a player speaks, if he can help the Leafs win, he has a spot on his team. Don Cherry must be having an anxiety attack after listening to him. I tried to find a link to post here but came up empty.
 

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It's one thing to preach all that shit he talks, and then never back it up. The way he left that Anaheim organization is a joke. The good thing is that he doesn't actually know how to evaluate talent, and will have a very difficult time building a team from scratch. He's a lot like Don Cherry, in that both are good sound bites, but neither says anything worthwhile.
 

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They won a cup under his watch. what are you talking about?
 

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burke says whatever he wants and knows what he's doing. he was a huge part of bringing the cup to anaheim. i'm not sure dogging him is the brightest move
 

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What was a joke how he left the Ducks? He was on the last year of his contract and was going elsewhere at the end of the year anyways. Your from Vancouver so you would know his style. He's got his mind set on what he wants to do, he's hired to do a job, and when people try to stand in his way he gets pissed (orca bay?) Love him or hate him he's like Don Cherry opinionated, old school, and gets irritated quickly from stupid questions from the media.
 

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What was a joke how he left the Ducks? He was on the last year of his contract and was going elsewhere at the end of the year anyways. Your from Vancouver so you would know his style. He's got his mind set on what he wants to do, he's hired to do a job, and when people try to stand in his way he gets pissed (orca bay?) Love him or hate him he's like Don Cherry opinionated, old school, and gets irritated quickly from stupid questions from the media.

You should have listened to the interview today. He explains how he respects 95% of the media. It's the 5% that print about his players in a bad light or outright lie that he attacks. And I don't blame him.

How do you know the real reason he left the Ducks? According to him it was a mutual split.
 

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They won a cup under his watch. what are you talking about?

Under his watch... that's about it.

All the prospects were drafted by others. He brought in Niedermayer, which was a slam dunk considering the money he had and that Rob was already on the Ducks. Of course, bringing in Brad May was all Burkey, so we can give him total credit for that move that put the team over the top :p
 

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What was a joke how he left the Ducks? He was on the last year of his contract and was going elsewhere at the end of the year anyways. Your from Vancouver so you would know his style. He's got his mind set on what he wants to do, he's hired to do a job, and when people try to stand in his way he gets pissed (orca bay?) Love him or hate him he's like Don Cherry opinionated, old school, and gets irritated quickly from stupid questions from the media.

You don't find anything wrong with a guy making trades, signing players, drafting players... all the while knowing he's going to leave in a few months, during the middle of the season albeit.

I'm not a big fan of Orca Bay, but getting rid of Burke was the best thing they did. Dave Nonnis did a great job, and it was unfortunate he was fired. Now Mike Gillis has come in and done a very admirable job thus far.
 

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Hired Randy Carlisle , and brought back Selanne who scored 40 that year. He didnt have to make a run at Neidermyer but he did.
 

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You gotta admit he took Vancouver from a mediocre team, and built up a good team and his legacy is a bit of their success this year still.
 

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That's all huh?

Maybe you forgot trading for Pronger, bringing in Selanne. Locking up Getzlaf and Perry to long tern deals. And if the Rocket Scientist Kevin Lowe hadn't signed Penner to a contract that was worth way more than his value, not only would they have him but maybe the kid's progress would have developed a little better. Burke's a great fit in Toronto. If you can't see that i don't know what to tell you.
 

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Yea, forgot about Carlisle. Even though he gave up a 2nd rounder to get him. He was worth it. He helped them win a Cup.
 

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Alright, this is not going to go anywhere, so I'm going to stop arguing. I've made my points, you guys have made yours. I guess we will let Burke's time in Toronto do the talking....
 

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Alright, this is not going to go anywhere, so I'm going to stop arguing. I've made my points, you guys have made yours. I guess we will let Burke's time in Toronto do the talking....

that's weak. You obviously have personal issues with Burke (guess his years in Vancouver pissed you off? Sedin twins, who picked them? Won a playoff series, won a Division title, helped increase attendance as you chaps were in rough shape---or was it all bad?)--- you give him no credit for The Ducks winning the Cup under his watch, despite other posters helping you out of the moves he made. His decision to leave the Ducks by all accounts was an amicable one. He continued to make decisiosn to better that organization even though he knew he was on his way out.

you mnetioned Dave Nonis did a 'great job' in Vancouver? good grief guy, he's a Burke man--worked with him in Vancouver then to Anaheim and now in Toronto. Does that reflect poorly on Burke as well? :)

gl to Burke in Toronto, he's going to need it.
 

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that's weak. You obviously have personal issues with Burke (guess his years in Vancouver pissed you off? Sedin twins, who picked them? Won a playoff series, won a Division title, helped increase attendance as you chaps were in rough shape---or was it all bad?)--- you give him no credit for The Ducks winning the Cup under his watch, despite other posters helping you out of the moves he made. His decision to leave the Ducks by all accounts was an amicable one. He continued to make decisiosn to better that organization even though he knew he was on his way out.

you mnetioned Dave Nonis did a 'great job' in Vancouver? good grief guy, he's a Burke man--worked with him in Vancouver then to Anaheim and now in Toronto. Does that reflect poorly on Burke as well? :)

gl to Burke in Toronto, he's going to need it.

Ok, fine...

a) Burke didn't bring in the top players. Guys like Bertuzzi and Naslund were brought in by other GMs. In fact, a lot of the credit goes to Mike Keenan for rebuilding the organization.

b) Burke was constantly trading away mid round picks for rental players who proved to be worthless. In 6 years of drafting, who did Brian Burke produce, other than the Sedin twins? He was given the twins due to the team's weak perfomance and his desire to overpay for another top 4 pick (McCabe & top 15 pick).

c) When prompted to deal the franchise player, and arguably the most exciting player in the league at the time, Burke dealt Bure and Hedican for what amounted to Ed Jovanovski. Jovo turned out to be a solid dman, but there should have been more available for a guy of Bure's calibre. Oh yah, the Canucks also got a 1st round pick in the deal... I think he played one or two games on the 4th line and was never heard from again! (Nathan Smith)

d) Burke was stubborn beyond belief. This is why he could never make a good trade. He was unwilling to trade one of his bust players, with the hope that the players would turn it around and prove him a genius. This is why the Canucks lost RJ Umberger over a few thousand dollars.

e) Burke's inability to find a starting goalie. First he gets rid of Arthurs Irbe, who had a good season on a bad team. He decided to go with Kevin Weekes (who he was very high on) and Garth Snow. And the final argument, Adrian Aucoin & 2nd round pick for Dan Cloutier. This was a gross overpayment at the time, as Cloutier had already been shuffled around to a couple organizations. Well, Aucoin moved on to be one of the top minute leaders in the NHL, while Cloutier won the Canucks a cup... i mean blew every playoff series he was a part of.

Burke did well for Vancouver... give me a break. It took Nonnis only a few months to pull off a deal that was better than all of Burke's moves combined.
 

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I gotta agree with Passthebuck. Burkie did some good things while in Vancouver and rebuilt a struggling franchise so for that he has my respect but he failed to resolve an ongoing issue with the team and by the time he left the farm system was bone dry and the team left with serious questions. He again did some good things with the ducks but really no brainer decisions. Niedermayer had a short list of places he wanted to play, Vancouver ruled him out by resigning Naslund which left playing with his brother which was probably his 1st choice anyway. The luxury of having Getzlaf, Perry and Penner on entry levels gave him some incredible freedom to make that kind of move. Pronger was a no brainer as he was handed to him on a silver platter by Lowe. Carlyles a good coach but you could make an argument that any decent coach could've taken that crew to a cup. Selanne was a low risk high potential signing, and he only wanted to go to Anaheim. Now that he's left the ducks farm system is bone dry as well. I'm not ripping on Burke I think he's good for Toronto and he'll do a lot towards making that team competitive but I don't think he's a great evaluator of talent and I dont think he generally looks long term unless he's forced to rebuild as he is here. He's not in the league of Holland, Lamerello, Rutherford or Poile imo.
 

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Keenan was in Vancouver for 1 year and hated Naslund and would have eventually run him out of town if given the opportunity. You guys should never have gotten rid of Pat Quinn. If you don't want to give Burke credit for the moves he made then winning the cup we'll obviously agree to disagree. Ha ha...nice pic Bushay
 

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Niedermayer had a short list of places he wanted to play, Vancouver ruled him out by resigning Naslund which left playing with his brother which was probably his 1st choice anyway. The luxury of having Getzlaf, Perry and Penner on entry levels gave him some incredible freedom to make that kind of move. Pronger was a no brainer as he was handed to him on a silver platter by Lowe. Carlyles a good coach but you could make an argument that any decent coach could've taken that crew to a cup. Selanne was a low risk high potential signing, and he only wanted to go to Anaheim. Now that he's left the ducks farm system is bone dry as well. I'm not ripping on Burke

Man if that's not ripping on him I'd sure hate to hear you when you DO! Golly.

Pronger was a no brainer? LOL.

Carlyles a good coach but you could make an argument that any decent coach could've taken that crew to a cup.

Dude?

Your not from Vancouver are you?

Oh yea.
 

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