Thanks Jaws....sounds like you have been there and done that.
Why in holly hell don't these math experts go out to Las Vegas and clean clock.
Is there an age limit for posting here at theRX....should at least be above junior high school math. Fools try to expert on something they no nothing about.
Kind of sad for many of us......................
Why in holly hell don't these math experts go out to Las Vegas and clean clock.
Is there an age limit for posting here at theRX....should at least be above junior high school math. Fools try to expert on something they no nothing about.
Kind of sad for many of us......................
Your posts on this subject are laughable - which is good, because otherwise there'd be absolutely no point in reading them. The idea that the inanimate objects around you have a memory, or are keeping track of their hotness or coldness is ridiculous - the next roll is its own event, with its own set of odds that are not dictated in any way by what has happened before.
Go play horseshoe.....then tell us about your math backgound.
These guys have never been in a casino in their lifes. Hell, good read for suckers.
You play craps...chart the table...then determine how you play (do or don't) then if you have any knowledge of how to play...maybe you win.
These GODDAMN math dudes are a joke...never been in a casino in their fucken lives. OH,...I forgot...they have a goddamn math degree. fucken LOSERS.
These guys have never been in a casino in their lifes. Hell, good read for suckers.
You play craps...chart the table...then determine how you play (do or don't) then if you have any knowledge of how to play...maybe you win.
These GODDAMN math dudes are a joke...never been in a casino in their fucken lives. OH,...I forgot...they have a goddamn math degree. fucken LOSERS.
If there is one thing I have learned over the years it is that everyone has their own methods of playing. You can beat them over the head with strategy, math, etc. and they will never falter. I know a guy who plays craps and he lays the hard 12 on every single roll. His theory is the increased payout gives him a good chance to win money - he doesn't take into account the percentages he is up against. Funny thing is he swears up and down he is a lifetime winner at the game.
Seriously though - give it a rest fellas. You can all have a discussion without resulting to the name calling - after all, if the guy you are debating has reduced you to only hurling insults in his mind he has already won...
Seriously though - give it a rest fellas. You can all have a discussion without resulting to the name calling - after all, if the guy you are debating has reduced you to only hurling insults in his mind he has already won...
Goldmine is Horseshit to those who truly want to understand CRAPS.
These math horse pucks have never stepped foot in a casino in their lives. Or, they are come lately EXPERTS.
God...good reading....let it flow for fools....listen and lose your ass. (Math experts)
Goddamn after playing craps for more years than these math experts who have NEVER been in a casino one day in their math lives...rather than being ugly....just happy day to these losers.
You high school dude's learn the hard way......stupid. (Same ole song, same ole blues)
These math horse pucks have never stepped foot in a casino in their lives. Or, they are come lately EXPERTS.
God...good reading....let it flow for fools....listen and lose your ass. (Math experts)
Goddamn after playing craps for more years than these math experts who have NEVER been in a casino one day in their math lives...rather than being ugly....just happy day to these losers.
You high school dude's learn the hard way......stupid. (Same ole song, same ole blues)
This'll be my last post on the matter, but just a small tidbit from the WizardOfOdds:
Question from a reader:
WoO's Response:
cloverleaf i'm glad you have played craps successfully for over 40 years - everyone can play a game their own way, as it's their own money at stake. I feel like you've provided no reasoning or evidence for us or anyone to understand what you're saying regarding probability (or the lack there of) when you jump into a hot table. gl in the future.
Question from a reader:
I'm walking through a casino and see a craps table with a shooter winning lots of money. I feel lucky and want to place a bet. What can/should I do? Do I have to first make a pass line bet? Can I make a come bet? Can I make either bet with odds? Or, do I wait until the next round of play? -- Todd from Chicago
WoO's Response:
First, it doesn't make any difference that the shooter is making lots of money. Your odds are the same on an ice-cold table. The past does not matter. However if you are going to play then wait patiently for a come out roll. Never make a pass bet after a point has been established, because you'd lose the ability to win with a 7 or 11 on the come-out roll. However, you could make a come bet right away and still have the chance of winning on a 7 or 11. Sept. 25, 2005
cloverleaf i'm glad you have played craps successfully for over 40 years - everyone can play a game their own way, as it's their own money at stake. I feel like you've provided no reasoning or evidence for us or anyone to understand what you're saying regarding probability (or the lack there of) when you jump into a hot table. gl in the future.
great point!! i never thought of that and i have definitely heard people make this exact complaint...BJ is a miserable game anyway..think about it have you ever seen someone really having a great time playing this game?? besides the douchebag frat boys playing 5 a hand you never see anyone with any real gambling knowledge enjoying BJ...I know basic strategy and can even count in the right environment but its such a miserable grind I would rather just play craps where i have worse odds..how many times can you watch the dealer pull21 with 5 cards and not lose it???
I don't play Craps but I do play BlackJack.
It seems in BJ that there are hot and cold streaks. Sometimes you can't win and sometimes you can't lose and when you're in the middle of one of those streaks you almost know what's going to happen.
Do BJ streaks mean that 'hot' and 'cold' exist in the game or is all standard deviation? It does seem like streaks exist to me. If streaks do exist, why?
It seems in BJ that there are hot and cold streaks. Sometimes you can't win and sometimes you can't lose and when you're in the middle of one of those streaks you almost know what's going to happen.
Do BJ streaks mean that 'hot' and 'cold' exist in the game or is all standard deviation? It does seem like streaks exist to me. If streaks do exist, why?
I heard people complain about that many times, too. Also had a couple of dealers telling me (whispering while shuffling), I should just stand up and walk over to a different table because certain people at the table didn't know how to play the game. Always told them, I didn't care because it wasn't affecting my play (even if I count, it will affect me in both ways, so it usually evens out over the course of time).
But I disagree with not being able to have fun at a blackjack table: I always look forward to playing BJ at the MGM, when I make my trips to LV and always try to find 2 dealers because I always have a great time playing, when they are dealing (but maybe it's because I'm not a highroller, so I might fall into your 5 a hand category since I usually play just 5-25$/hand)....
