About 5 yrs ago when I went to Lake Charles to play some slots, I picked up on Baccarrat and fell in love with it. It just seems like such and easy game to play. I always played this game at casinos until recently I started playing on line. It seems that the online version plays on trends more often than when you are at a casino. Anyone else notice this??
On a side note, I highly recommend the book CASINO GAMBLING FOR THE WINNER by Lyle Stuart. One of the most entertaining gambling books you shall ever read and a some great and thought provoking theories used by Lyle in the casino, mainly at baccarat. His theories have actually made me a very very small winner at Baccarat lifetime.
Baccarat is very much a beatable game. The casinos get beat on this game more than any other table game. On the other hand, blackjack makes them the most money of any table game. Common sense would tell you that baccarat is beatable because nobody playing at the table can affect the outcome of the cards. In fact, if you play for big money in the salons you can deal the cards yourself and totally remove any and all human elements that could cheat you. Of course money management is going to be the ultimate factor in whether you profit or not in any game, but with baccarat ive found that "going with the flow" works great. If the bank or player side keeps winning then you just keep staying on that side. In constrast, if the winning side keeps switching back and forth then you play it that way.
Playing online casinos with baccarat requires a different strategy as it would seem that the computer picks up on your patterns. Its best to keep switching sides often and not let it get a read on you. The ability for the computer to read you can be proven fairly easily if you test it out with the smallest wager and stay on one side it wont be long before it goes on a streak against you on the other side.
Playing online casinos with baccarat requires a different strategy as it would seem that the computer picks up on your patterns. Its best to keep switching sides often and not let it get a read on you. The ability for the computer to read you can be proven fairly easily if you test it out with the smallest wager and stay on one side it wont be long before it goes on a streak against you on the other side.
The NYSE up or down movement of such gaming companies as the MIRAGE and MGM actually at times move on how the whales do at Baccarat over a given weekend. Not uncommon for them to win OR lose millions and millions in a short time with these whales. One of the WHALES is reported to be from Saudi Arabia and is one of the top three wealtiest individuals in the WORLD. This guy is THE high roller!!
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As an introduction to table games, it's hard to beat baccarat.
An inexperienced player can step up to the table and get the same low house edge as an old pro. There are no basic strategy tables to memorize, as in blackjack, nor does it take as large a bankroll as the combination of pass or don't pass plus free odds in craps.
It's a game high rollers love because the house edge is far lower than that on roulette, Caribbean Stud, Let It Ride or slot machines. For the same reason, it's a good bet for average bettors, but has never really caught on with the low-rolling crowd. That's partly because for much of its history in U.S. casinos it was restricted to high-limit rooms, inaccessible to the majority of players. It's also partly because many players like to make decisions, and there are few to be made here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The rest here: Link
I agree with the shark here. If we stick to the numbers and strictly to the numbers, Baccarat is the game that reports the lowest percentage of hold for the house. It's very simple to play and requires far more good luck than any other table game, but works like that for both ways: the house and the player.
People really don't like to play it, the truth is I got obsessed with it after watching James Bond's movies and the sophisticated air the Baccarat as a game had. In a good Baccarat session you can make way more money than at a basic strategy BJ.
An inexperienced player can step up to the table and get the same low house edge as an old pro. There are no basic strategy tables to memorize, as in blackjack, nor does it take as large a bankroll as the combination of pass or don't pass plus free odds in craps.
It's a game high rollers love because the house edge is far lower than that on roulette, Caribbean Stud, Let It Ride or slot machines. For the same reason, it's a good bet for average bettors, but has never really caught on with the low-rolling crowd. That's partly because for much of its history in U.S. casinos it was restricted to high-limit rooms, inaccessible to the majority of players. It's also partly because many players like to make decisions, and there are few to be made here.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The rest here: Link
I agree with the shark here. If we stick to the numbers and strictly to the numbers, Baccarat is the game that reports the lowest percentage of hold for the house. It's very simple to play and requires far more good luck than any other table game, but works like that for both ways: the house and the player.
People really don't like to play it, the truth is I got obsessed with it after watching James Bond's movies and the sophisticated air the Baccarat as a game had. In a good Baccarat session you can make way more money than at a basic strategy BJ.
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gamblingshark:
Baccarat is very much a beatable game. The casinos get beat on this game more than any other table game. On the other hand, blackjack makes them the most money of any table game. Common sense would tell you that baccarat is beatable because nobody playing at the table can affect the outcome of the cards. In fact, if you play for big money in the salons you can deal the cards yourself and totally remove any and all human elements that could cheat you. Of course money management is going to be the ultimate factor in whether you profit or not in any game, but with baccarat ive found that "going with the flow" works great. If the bank or player side keeps winning then you just keep staying on that side. In constrast, if the winning side keeps switching back and forth then you play it that way.
Playing online casinos with baccarat requires a different strategy as it would seem that the computer picks up on your patterns. Its best to keep switching sides often and not let it get a read on you. The ability for the computer to read you can be proven fairly easily if you test it out with the smallest wager and stay on one side it wont be long before it goes on a streak against you on the other side.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You WILL LOSE money in Baccarat - it is not a beatable game. Yes, the house edge is low but cannot be completely overcome at any point. Yes, people bet on streaks in that game and it can be exciting when a long streak occurs. But the mathematics of the game dictates that you WILL LOSE money sooner or later.
Baccarat is very much a beatable game. The casinos get beat on this game more than any other table game. On the other hand, blackjack makes them the most money of any table game. Common sense would tell you that baccarat is beatable because nobody playing at the table can affect the outcome of the cards. In fact, if you play for big money in the salons you can deal the cards yourself and totally remove any and all human elements that could cheat you. Of course money management is going to be the ultimate factor in whether you profit or not in any game, but with baccarat ive found that "going with the flow" works great. If the bank or player side keeps winning then you just keep staying on that side. In constrast, if the winning side keeps switching back and forth then you play it that way.
Playing online casinos with baccarat requires a different strategy as it would seem that the computer picks up on your patterns. Its best to keep switching sides often and not let it get a read on you. The ability for the computer to read you can be proven fairly easily if you test it out with the smallest wager and stay on one side it wont be long before it goes on a streak against you on the other side.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
You WILL LOSE money in Baccarat - it is not a beatable game. Yes, the house edge is low but cannot be completely overcome at any point. Yes, people bet on streaks in that game and it can be exciting when a long streak occurs. But the mathematics of the game dictates that you WILL LOSE money sooner or later.
I have to agree with Shark...
Bacarrat is a beatable game.
My brother introduced me to the game 5 years ago. He would tell me of stories of him and his Asian high rollers going to Vegas and winning mad money. I tried it out and won a few $100's and was hooked. I always played in a casino until earlier this year, when I tried it on-line. I noticed that the on-line version was more predicable...but the gaming software also adjusted to your plays and would try to outsmart you. I would make some $ but lose it back quick. A freind showed me this software he used to outsmart the gaming software, and to some extent it works. If you are a controlled player you can beat a online casino with this software. Its called the Predictor System ....has anyone used it??
Here is a link:
Predictor
Bacarrat is a beatable game.
My brother introduced me to the game 5 years ago. He would tell me of stories of him and his Asian high rollers going to Vegas and winning mad money. I tried it out and won a few $100's and was hooked. I always played in a casino until earlier this year, when I tried it on-line. I noticed that the on-line version was more predicable...but the gaming software also adjusted to your plays and would try to outsmart you. I would make some $ but lose it back quick. A freind showed me this software he used to outsmart the gaming software, and to some extent it works. If you are a controlled player you can beat a online casino with this software. Its called the Predictor System ....has anyone used it??
Here is a link:
Predictor
'Cheat team' charged with taking casino for $450,000
ADAM LYNN; The News Tribune
At half-past midnight on Oct. 24, a player sat down at a baccarat table at the Emerald Queen Casino and went on the kind of run most recreational gamblers only dream about.
A dozen times in a row, the cards came up winners.
The haul: $17,000.
At a table nearby, another gambler won seven straight hands of baccarat and raked in $7,500 in chips.
Yes, indeed, Lady Luck was smiling.
The security personnel and state gambling agents watching it unfold on a video screen were not.
After the players cashed out and left the riverboat casino on Tacoma's Tideflats, authorities swooped in and arrested the two women who dealt the cards. Luck had nothing to do with the two players' success, authorities contend.
Inside help did.
State and casino investigators believe Thong Sok Sovan and Pheap Norng shuffled the cards in such a way that it gave the two big winners an advantage.
Sovan, 37, and Norng, 35, now are charged with a crime called "cheating in the first degree." If convicted, they face up to five years in state prison and $30,000 in fines.
The two women also are charged with first-degree theft in what authorities are calling a "sophisticated" cheating operation that might have cost the casino as much as $450,000 during a five-month period.
"That's probably a pretty hefty amount compared to what we usually see," said Susan Arland, a spokeswoman for the state Gambling Commission.
Sovan and Norng have pleaded not guilty and are not being held in jail.
"It's going to be vigorously defended," said their attorney, Allan Overland of Tacoma.
The Puyallup Tribe of Indians, which operates the casino, had no comment Thursday. "It's an ongoing investigation, so we just can't say anything at this time," tribal spokesman John Weymer said.
Arland also declined to say anything more while investigators continue to work on the case.
Court documents indicate the investigation could expand to include the players who walked away with nearly $25,000 on Oct. 24, as well as other dealers at the casino, and that additional charges could be filed against Sovan and Norng.
The case apparently began in May when casino personnel noticed that certain players won more often than not when they sat at tables where Sovan and Norng were dealing, court documents state.
Five months later, the state Gambling Commission weighed in, launching a formal investigation "into allegations that a sophisticated 'cheat team' was operating frequently at the casino," the documents state. "Investigation determined that dealers had been recruited to assist in the cheating effort. This particular cheating effort focused on the game 'baccarat.'"
Baccarat is a centuries-old card game that is similar to blackjack, only the goal is to achieve a total of nine instead of 21. Players are dealt two cards to start and can take a third if needed. Like blackjack, gamblers play against the house, represented by the dealer.
Most casinos use eight decks of cards at once at a baccarat table. Before dealing out the cards, dealers "wash" them on the table top. That involves placing all the cards face down and mixing them together for several minutes.
It was during the "washing" process that investigators believe Sovan and Norng committed crimes, court documents state.
Instead of thoroughly shuffling the decks together, the women engaged in what is called a "false shuffle," authorities contend.
"A 'false shuffle' results when a dealer gives the appearance that an entire group of cards is being shuffled, when, in fact, only a portion of the cards to be shuffled are actually shuffled," investigators wrote in probable cause documents.
The unshuffled cards then are placed in a dealing shoe in their original or some prearranged order, according to the Web site www.lasvegas-online-casino.com.
State investigators, watching Sovan and Norng via security cameras and in person, contend they used false shuffles to allow certain players "to prerecord the value and order of the cards to be dealt," court documents state. "This information allows betting to take place in a manner that allows consistent winning."
That's against Washington law, but it didn't happen in this case, Overland said.
"That's the prosecutor's theory of the case," he said. "The facts are quite different."
Citing distrust of the media, he refused to say more.
His clients have a pretrial conference scheduled for Nov. 18 in Pierce County Superior Court.
Adam Lynn: 253-597-8644
adam.lynn@mail.tribnet.com
ADAM LYNN; The News Tribune
At half-past midnight on Oct. 24, a player sat down at a baccarat table at the Emerald Queen Casino and went on the kind of run most recreational gamblers only dream about.
A dozen times in a row, the cards came up winners.
The haul: $17,000.
At a table nearby, another gambler won seven straight hands of baccarat and raked in $7,500 in chips.
Yes, indeed, Lady Luck was smiling.
The security personnel and state gambling agents watching it unfold on a video screen were not.
After the players cashed out and left the riverboat casino on Tacoma's Tideflats, authorities swooped in and arrested the two women who dealt the cards. Luck had nothing to do with the two players' success, authorities contend.
Inside help did.
State and casino investigators believe Thong Sok Sovan and Pheap Norng shuffled the cards in such a way that it gave the two big winners an advantage.
Sovan, 37, and Norng, 35, now are charged with a crime called "cheating in the first degree." If convicted, they face up to five years in state prison and $30,000 in fines.
The two women also are charged with first-degree theft in what authorities are calling a "sophisticated" cheating operation that might have cost the casino as much as $450,000 during a five-month period.
"That's probably a pretty hefty amount compared to what we usually see," said Susan Arland, a spokeswoman for the state Gambling Commission.
Sovan and Norng have pleaded not guilty and are not being held in jail.
"It's going to be vigorously defended," said their attorney, Allan Overland of Tacoma.
The Puyallup Tribe of Indians, which operates the casino, had no comment Thursday. "It's an ongoing investigation, so we just can't say anything at this time," tribal spokesman John Weymer said.
Arland also declined to say anything more while investigators continue to work on the case.
Court documents indicate the investigation could expand to include the players who walked away with nearly $25,000 on Oct. 24, as well as other dealers at the casino, and that additional charges could be filed against Sovan and Norng.
The case apparently began in May when casino personnel noticed that certain players won more often than not when they sat at tables where Sovan and Norng were dealing, court documents state.
Five months later, the state Gambling Commission weighed in, launching a formal investigation "into allegations that a sophisticated 'cheat team' was operating frequently at the casino," the documents state. "Investigation determined that dealers had been recruited to assist in the cheating effort. This particular cheating effort focused on the game 'baccarat.'"
Baccarat is a centuries-old card game that is similar to blackjack, only the goal is to achieve a total of nine instead of 21. Players are dealt two cards to start and can take a third if needed. Like blackjack, gamblers play against the house, represented by the dealer.
Most casinos use eight decks of cards at once at a baccarat table. Before dealing out the cards, dealers "wash" them on the table top. That involves placing all the cards face down and mixing them together for several minutes.
It was during the "washing" process that investigators believe Sovan and Norng committed crimes, court documents state.
Instead of thoroughly shuffling the decks together, the women engaged in what is called a "false shuffle," authorities contend.
"A 'false shuffle' results when a dealer gives the appearance that an entire group of cards is being shuffled, when, in fact, only a portion of the cards to be shuffled are actually shuffled," investigators wrote in probable cause documents.
The unshuffled cards then are placed in a dealing shoe in their original or some prearranged order, according to the Web site www.lasvegas-online-casino.com.
State investigators, watching Sovan and Norng via security cameras and in person, contend they used false shuffles to allow certain players "to prerecord the value and order of the cards to be dealt," court documents state. "This information allows betting to take place in a manner that allows consistent winning."
That's against Washington law, but it didn't happen in this case, Overland said.
"That's the prosecutor's theory of the case," he said. "The facts are quite different."
Citing distrust of the media, he refused to say more.
His clients have a pretrial conference scheduled for Nov. 18 in Pierce County Superior Court.
Adam Lynn: 253-597-8644
adam.lynn@mail.tribnet.com
Patriot;
I dont know how many times I have made $50 into $500 in less than 10 minutes. But it's the greed that gets me, once I start winning its hard to lay off and and easy to go for more. I use that predictor system and it has teached me patience. But the key to playing and winning in Bacarrat is to get up when your up and to walk away.
I dont know how many times I have made $50 into $500 in less than 10 minutes. But it's the greed that gets me, once I start winning its hard to lay off and and easy to go for more. I use that predictor system and it has teached me patience. But the key to playing and winning in Bacarrat is to get up when your up and to walk away.
