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[Phaedrus]

Two killed in high-speed chase when Georgia trooper rams fleeing vehicle

(Associated Press)

SAVANNAH, Ga.USA - A high-speed chase that covered 76 miles turned deadly when Georgia state troopers used a ramming technique to spin the fleeing vehicle off the highway, killing the driver and her teenager passenger.

The crash ended the Interstate 95 chase Tuesday that started in South Carolina and crossed into coastal Georgia, with speeds reaching 105 mph.

The driver, identified as 21-year-old Katie Sharp of Holly Hill, Fla., started fleeing when Colleton County sheriff's deputies tried to stop her for speeding at 86 mph in a 70 mph zone, sheriff's Capt. Kent Tisdale said.

The Georgia State Patrol took up the chase when the speeding Nissan Pathfinder crossed the state line near Savannah.

A pursuing trooper tried to stop the vehicle using a tactical ramming maneuver, steering the patrol car's front bumper into the fleeing vehicle behind its rear wheels, said Sgt. Chad Riner of the Georgia State Patrol.

The Pathfinder spun off the interstate and struck a tree. Sharp and her passenger, Garrett Gabe, 17, of Pennsylvania, died instantly, Riner said.

Authorities said they did not immediately know why Sharp refused to pull over. The State Patrol is investigating the crash.

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

Yeah,probably.

 

[Phaedrus]

See also:

Stupid Cowards Should Not be Allowed to Become Police Officers

Pepper Spray "Appropriate" for Twelve-Year Old Girls


Phaedrus

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

I agree with the 2nd thing. You don't wanna go around shooting 12 year old girls. I say pepper spray em.

 

[Phaedrus]

MJNS

You have an issue here where a 22-year veteran of the Broward County sheriff's department can't handle a twelve-year-old girl getting sassy with him, so he pepper sprays her, drags her down and handcuffed her. The only problem I'd have had were that my child would be the fact that I could only kill that piece of shit one time, and there would be so many things I wanted to try out on him.


Phaedrus

 

[bblight]

High speed chases for minor crimes are stupid - here are two lives gone because of piss poor police policy! This could be anyones kids who ran for fear of the consequences and dug themselves in deeper for running - a spiral that leads to worsening decisions and consequences.

I don't blame the cops - they'll take it as far as they're allowed to take it! I blame the administrators and lawmakers who allow such stupid high speed chases to take place.

What a shame and what a waste!

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

Phaedrus...obviously my sarcasm didn't come through in type. I was kidding.

 

[ChuckSims]

These stinkin pigs have a us against them mentallity. The "them" is everybody thats not a cop. Police high speed chases should be outlawed.

 

[GAMEFACE]

Just let the criminals take over, unfukin believable. Criminals good, Police bad, everything is upside down. We are crumbling from within.

The thin blue line is all we have left.

 

[Mr NJ Sports]

I usually side with cops but to bump em for speeding seems harsh. But they shouldve pulled over.

 

[GAMEFACE]

Tim Mcviegh was stopped for no registration displayed I believe. If Tim McV would have fled would everyone be OK if the trooper tried to end the chase by bumping his vehicle. It's silly to think Police are somehow super human, the trooper did what he felt was best at the time. No Police Officer can be sure why someone is fleeing. Some are fleeing because of little traffic warrants and some are fleeing for serious felonies. Some may have just killed 3 people or have a body in the trunk.

All we really have left is the thin blue line.

 

[ChuckSims]

Whatever happened to "To Protect and To Serve". Innocent people get kiiled in these high speed chases.

 

[GAMEFACE]

So the answer is to let everyone go that runs. Why would anyone ever stop? Unbelievable??????

 

[SENDITIN]

I think they call the bumping a PIT maneuver or Pursuit Intervention Technique. See it on "Cops" all the time. If done correctly the car will just spin around and stall. Sounds like they screwed it up. I say wait until all the facts come in. Where's Bill the cop?

 

[Marco]

I'm having mixed emotions on this one.....

Leaning more towards GAMEFACE's viewpoint...

Exact facts about this whole incident are not posted....how much traffic on the interstate, what speed was the PIT executed at...there are a number of factors in this case that I would like to know...

Obviously when one runs from the law a whole slew of outcomes can result, in this case two people got killed....over what, a speeding ticket? Or was there more reason to run?

Whether or not they were chased, what would have been the outcome had they sped down the road and lost control and killed someone else in a head-on collision?

Ultimately they chose to speed, they chose to try to outrun the police, and thier bad choices led to the undesirable and unfortunate outcome of hitting a tree and getting killed.

 

[GAMEFACE]

Lets say the police get a call of an intoxicated driving that's all over the road and the police try to get the driver stopped and he runs. If the police do not try to stop the vehicle and later the driver kills people they blame the police for not stopping the driver. We put the police in a no win situation. The 95% of successful pursuits and high risk encounters never make the news.

 

[ClayHenry]

better the people killed running from the cops than them slamming into someone's mother running a red light.

As far as outlawing police chases that's one of the dumbest things I've heard.

 

[Phaedrus]

Perhaps I did not express myself clearly enough (although I am frankly revolted [as usual] by Gameface's slavish view towards authority.) It is not that I do not think that police involved in a chase should attempt to bring that chase to a close, especially when it has been going on for so long that it becomes an interstate affair. However, the manuever in question -- tactical ramming -- is absolutely inappropriate for a) high-speed chases (started out at 86mph and topped at 105mph) and b) situations where there is gross disproportion in weight, distribution or height of the vehicle in question (the second and third point are most certainly the case of a Nissan Pathfinder.) Despite this, the spin is already running full-blast (“The trooper executed his training. He acted properly,” said Trooper 1st Class Larry Schnall, a State Patrol spokesman. “It was a long, dangerous chase and we felt we needed to stop it before some innocent bystander got killed.”) and it is almost certain that this policeman, whose bravado, incompetence, and/or lack of proper training has killed two people who might have been guilty of nothing more than being idiot kids will get no more than a slap on the wrist, if that.

Yes, they might well have hurt someone else. Newsflash: the Georgia State Patrol has radios, helicopters, and quite a few patrollers, plus the explicit cooperation of county and municipal governments. It would have been next to nothing to clear a patch of I-95 and set up a roadblock with men to the side.

You guys who are basically saying that a couple of young people deserve to die for reckless driving are fucking scum.


Phaedrus

 

[SENDITIN]

One point that caught my eye in this debate was the fact that the vehicle being chased was a Nissan Pathfinder or SUV. I can remember a COPS show where they specifically said they would NOT do the PIT maneuver on a vehicle that big.

 

[GAMEFACE]

95% or more of all the pursuits and high risk encounters the police do an excellent job under far more stress than any of us would imagine. They are not super human so mistakes are going to be made. I never said anyone deserves to die, however, if the driver would have simply pulled over they'd be alive today. What a novel concept? Just pull over and stop.