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Nope. I won't say America has the worst gun violence in the world, but it is certainly the worst problem in America and the worst of other developed nations currently not-existing in a war zone.

You're changing the subject again.

Statistics also show that countries with tougher gun laws have less gun violence.

Wager on that?

Developed nations have less mass shooting deaths per capita than the US
 

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Nope. I won't say America has the worst gun violence in the world, but it is certainly the worst problem in America and the worst of other developed nations currently not-existing in a war zone.

You're changing the subject again.

Statistics also show that countries with tougher gun laws have less gun violence.

Wager on that?

Developed nations have less mass shooting deaths per capita than the US

I feel bad for you talking about subjects you dont know, and I dont want to take advantage. But here are the statistics, so you can be up to date, and not just take what the media feeds you.

Mass shootings are incidents where there are at least four people, or more, are shot and killed by an attacker. Mass shootings do not always happen at random, for sometimes, the perpetrators of the mass shooting is a family member, a friend, or a peer of those who are murdered as a result of the act.

School shootings are a common type of mass shootings, as saddening as it is, especially in the United States. Though there is not actual global definition of a mass shooting, the general consensus is that a mass shooting results from armed weapons taking the lives of many people at one time.

Some of the countries that have notably high or significant numbers of mass shootings on an annual basis include the following, in no particular order.

Côte d'Ivoire
Tunisia
Mali
Kenya
Uganda
India
Japan
Pakistan
China
India
South Korea
Japan
Israel
Jerusalem
Tel Aviv
Egypt
The United Kingdom
Spain
Switzerland
Germany
Finland
Norway
France
Italy
The Soviet Union Russia
Tatarstan
Yaroslavsky
Belgorod
Canada
Mexico
The United States
Argentina
Brazil
Australia
Tasmania
New Zealand

There is a common misconception that the United States is one of the top few countries, if not the top country, that have the highest mass shooting rates. But the truth of the matter is that the United States is actually number sixty-six on the list of countries in terms of mass shooting rates.

That finding rings true when all countries around the world are taken into consideration. Looking at the United States alongside all the countries in Europe alone, the United States has the twelfth highest mass shooting rate. A few of the European countries with a higher mass shooting rate than the United States include Russia, Norway, France, Switzerland and Finland.

It certainly seems that the United States has the highest mass shootings rate of all the land, but this has been proven untrue. In recent years, the Crime Prevention Research Center released information regarding the annual death rates as a result of mass shootings around the world. The countries that were looked at in this data analysis were...

Norway
Serbia
France
Macedonia
Albania
Slovakia
Switzerland
Finland
Belgium
The Czech Republic
The United States of America
Austria
The Netherlands
Canada
England
Germany
Russia
Italy

The Crime Prevention Research Center looked at the death rates that resulted from mass shootings between the years 2009 and 2015. Here are the average death rates, in millions, per country, between 2009 and 2015. The countries are already listed in order of the highest death rates to the lowest median death rates.

Norway 1.888
Serbia 0.381
France 0.347
Macedonia 0.337
Albania 0.206
Slovakia 0.185
Switzerland 0.142
Finland 0.132
Belgium 0.128
The Czech Republic 0.123
The United States of America 0.089
Austria 0.068
The Netherlands 0.051
Canada 0.032
England 0.027
Germany 0.023
Russia 0.012
Italy 0.009

Now that we've looked at the average mass shooting death rates, let's compare those to the frequency at which these mass shootings occur. The countries on this list are also on the list of mass shooting death rates, but the order is noticeably different. The top eighteen European or American countries in terms of mass shooting frequency include...

Macedonia
Albania
Serbia
Switzerland
Norway
Slovakia
Finland
Belgium
Austria
The Czech Republic
France
The United States
Canada
The Netherlands
Italy
England
Russia
Germany
Now for the list of European and American countries paired with their mass shooting frequencies.

Macedonia 0.471
Albania 0.360
Serbia 0.281
Switzerland 0.249
Norway 0.197
Slovakia 0.185
Finland 0.184
Belgium 0.179
Austria 0.119
The Czech Republic 0.096
France 0.092
The United States 0.078
Canada 0.056
The Netherlands 0.059
Italy 0.017
England 0.015
Russia 0.014
Germany 0.013
 

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“Racism is evil, and those who cause violence in its name are criminals and thugs, including the KKK, neo-Nazis, white supremacists and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as Americans.” : Donald Trump
 

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“David Duke is a bad person, who I disavowed on numerous occasions over the years,” Trump said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” in March 2016. “I disavowed him. I disavowed the KKK. Do you want me to do it again for the 12th time? I disavowed him in the past, I disavow him now.”
 

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After the election, the New York Times asked Trump about the “alt-right.” The president-elect replied, “I condemn them. I disavow, and I condemn.”
 

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Statistics also show that countries with tougher gun laws have less gun violence.

Wager on that?

Developed nations have less mass shooting deaths per capita than the US

Reading is a skill.

I am claiming that countries with tougher gun laws have less gun violence by comparison. However, that small detail (no wait, that was my ENTIRE point) aside. I noticed you didn't provide a source for your stats.

and then this little gem caught my eye: "The Crime Prevention Research Center"

So I decided to dig into that... here's a bit about the president of that organization, John Lott:
"He has written for both academic and popular publications. He has authored books such as More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics. He is best known as an advocate[1][2][3] in the gun rights debate, particularly his arguments against restrictions on owning and carrying guns. Newsweek referred to Lott as "The Gun Crowd's Guru."[4]"

AND Lott has been accused of falsifying data in his surveys
 

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“And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. OK? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.” Donald Trump
 

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Reading is a skill.

I am claiming that countries with tougher gun laws have less gun violence by comparison. However, that small detail (no wait, that was my ENTIRE point) aside. I noticed you didn't provide a source for your stats.

and then this little gem caught my eye: "The Crime Prevention Research Center"

So I decided to dig into that... here's a bit about the president of that organization, John Lott:
"He has written for both academic and popular publications. He has authored books such as More Guns, Less Crime, The Bias Against Guns, and Freedomnomics. He is best known as an advocate[1][2][3] in the gun rights debate, particularly his arguments against restrictions on owning and carrying guns. Newsweek referred to Lott as "The Gun Crowd's Guru."[4]"

AND Lott has been accused of falsifying data in his surveys

Would be easy to prove he falsified data... there a link pointing out the falsities, or is it just an accusation?
 

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Whats does the second to last paragraph of the El Paso shooters "supposed" manifesto say TheDonger?
 

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Dave007s, Willes, and SheriffJoes of the world who think we need more "white babies" and that only "white" countries are successful.

I am also anti-illegal immigrant. The problem in this situation is that Trump supporters feel its appropriate to consider SHOOTING them as a legitimate solution. Some inbred TRUMPANZEE, felt empowered enough by Trumps words to shout "SHOOT THEM" -- and what was Trump's reaction?
[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]I don't think any of us ever said we need more white babies. You're just making that up. But
I'm fairly sure one of us if not all of us have said white countries are successful.

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[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]In 1971 Reagan told Nixon "Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,"
Reagan said. "To see those monkeys from those African countries – damn them, they’re still
uncomfortable wearing shoes."


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[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]That was 48 years ago and not much has changed in Africa.[/FONT]
 

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Oopss!!!!! Donger crushed again.

Possibly passing DaFoolio as most failed threads in the Poly forum
 

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I don't think any of us ever said we need more white babies. You're just making that up. But
I'm fairly sure one of us if not all of us have said white countries are successful.

In 1971 Reagan told Nixon "Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,"
Reagan said. "To see those monkeys from those African countries – damn them, they’re still
uncomfortable wearing shoes."


That was 48 years ago and not much has changed in Africa.

For liberals, pointing out the politically-incorrect truth is racist.

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The problem in this situation is that Trump supporters feel its appropriate to consider SHOOTING them as a legitimate solution.

Funny... I've never met one, nor have ever heard of one.

Could it be that you're just a really dumb fucking liar?
 

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I don't think any of us ever said we need more white babies. You're just making that up. But
I'm fairly sure one of us if not all of us have said white countries are successful.


In 1971 Reagan told Nixon "Last night, I tell you, to watch that thing on television as I did,"
Reagan said. "To see those monkeys from those African countries – damn them, they’re still
uncomfortable wearing shoes."



That was 48 years ago and not much has changed in Africa.

Liars have to lie, it's what their puppet masters taught them. He's nothing more than a spoonfed parrot, not worth even talking to such ignorance, he'll only make you dumber
 

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Whats does the second to last paragraph of the El Paso shooters "supposed" manifesto say TheDonger?

Donger??

Whats the SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH of his manifesto say?

Since you are the expert here who has read it and reporting on it... enlighten us?
 

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Liars have to lie, it's what their puppet masters taught them. He's nothing more than a spoonfed parrot, not worth even talking to such ignorance, he'll only make you dumber
[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Willie sometimes I think I can't get any dumber. Then.... [/FONT]
 

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Donger??

Whats the SECOND TO LAST PARAGRAPH of his manifesto say?

Since you are the expert here who has read it and reporting on it... enlighten us?



[FONT=&quot]“The Liberal Media is picking out the parts they like to paint the narrative that he is a White Nationalist Trump Supporter, but here is some of the truth that the Liberal Media and Democrats aren't telling you. The shooter explicitly expresses his support for “a basic universal income,” which he says is the only thing that can “prevent widespread poverty and civil unrest.” He then goes on to support “ambitious social projects like universal healthcare.” Later, he claims that the American lifestyle “is destroying the environment of our country,” and that “the decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations.” So clearly this killer supports some of the most openly socialist policies in American political discourse today, including universal income, socialized medicine, and a belief in “global warming.” Yet, according to the media, he is somehow just another “far-right” shooter who has been motivated by President Trump. Most interestingly, the shooter does mention President Trump…but not in the way the Democrats would hope. Towards the end of his “manifesto,” this Leftist murderer m admits that his “ideology has not changed for several years,” and that his “opinions on automation, immigration, and the rest predate Trump and his campaign for president.” In the most direct refutation of the inevitable media spin, he even admits that “I’m putting this here because some people will blame the President or certain presidential candidates for the attack. This is not the case. I know that the media will probably call me a white supremacist anyway and blame Trump’s rhetoric.” In a macabre self-fulfilling prophecy, he then states “The media is infamous for fake news. Their reaction to this attack will likely just confirm that.” Despite this preemptive refutation, the media and the Democrats have gone ahead and run with the usual narrative anyway. With Robert Francis O’Rourke openly calling the President a “racist,” and accusing him of “stoking racism in this country,” and Pete Buttigieg declaring that “the President of the United States is condoning white nationalism,” and Socialist Bernie Sanders falsely claiming that there is a “growing culture of bigotry espoused by Trump and his allies,” the Democrats are deliberately lying about where such violence actually comes from. And, of course, multiple Democrats have once again issued calls for more gun control measures.”[/FONT]
 

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