I'm thinking the same way as FH here.
I want Colts, but it sucks if Colts win by a FG.
So now you have to buy down to -3 , if you buy to -3, you might as well buy through it to -2.5. By the time you do that, you might as well go ML in case Indy wins by 1 point.
I think you have to go ML if taking Colts, or some crazy alternate line laying -13 or something like that for +money.
With backing the Saints I'd be happy with +4.5 or higher, but not the ML.
Colts for me, too !
I want Colts, but it sucks if Colts win by a FG.
So now you have to buy down to -3 , if you buy to -3, you might as well buy through it to -2.5. By the time you do that, you might as well go ML in case Indy wins by 1 point.
I think you have to go ML if taking Colts, or some crazy alternate line laying -13 or something like that for +money.
With backing the Saints I'd be happy with +4.5 or higher, but not the ML.
Colts for me, too !
Colts 31-17
Take a look @ NFC Championship game stats.......
It should be noted that New Orleans’ defense ranked an unsettling 25th this year!
This and as FH says 2 weeks for Manning so the only thing that will stop Indy from winning is a Saint taking Manning out of game?
Sudden thought;Whoever wins toss should get Offense on field to set early Tempo.......
Take a look @ NFC Championship game stats.......
It should be noted that New Orleans’ defense ranked an unsettling 25th this year!
This and as FH says 2 weeks for Manning so the only thing that will stop Indy from winning is a Saint taking Manning out of game?
Sudden thought;Whoever wins toss should get Offense on field to set early Tempo.......
Doug, spot on buddy.
In response to a few replies in this thread.
1. OMT, I'm in at -187.4 on what I'm laying, so for me personally, well under -200........although one can lay up to that confortably and be taking the best or it or very, very close to it.
2. I will be taking a small portion back on the Saints at +6 ...........but only 33% of my moneyline wager tops.......and hopefully at odds under -109
My belief is the COLTS win this game by 3-7..........or by a tad more with a meaningless late score.
Reasons why I am playing The Colts.
Numbered..
1. Obviously NFL MVP Peyton Manning.
Manning followed up an outstanding regular season
by torching two of the NFL's better defenses in do or die playoff games. The game that really sold me was Manning's performance against the #1 ranked defense in football belonging to The New York Jets. I TIVO'd it and have watched it several times. Manning so far in two playoff games is 56 of 83 with 5 TDs and 1 Int with a QB Rtg of 104.6 against two excellent defenses.
Peyton lit up the Jets' defense for 377 yards and 3 TD passes despite some intense pressure brought by The Jets' pass rush. The Saints pressured Brett Farve but were still burned for over 300 yards in the air.
Face it - Manning has opened up a gap between himself and the rest of the premier QBs in the league. Guys like Rivers, Brady, Brees, Farve, Rogers, McNabb, Rothlesberger, and a few others are good but today more so than in a long time is the gap between the best and the rest been so wide.
2. Colts Super Bowl experience (nothing to sneeze at).
The Colts are staying in the same hotel they stayed three years ago, many of the players even staying in the same rooms they were in three years ago.
The Colts are practicing in the same facility they used before they waxed the Bears in SB XLI.
Nearly half of this years playoff roster has actual Super Bowl (not just playoff) experience.
25 Colts are still with the team from the one that won SB XLI.
This game for the Colts is about taking care of business, just making it to the SB is far from enough for the all business Colts. They know what it takes to win this game and have the coaches and players to do it.
3. Colts' receiving corps.
The Colts passing game is 2nd to none right now and is ready to take on the NFL's 26th ranked passing defense.
The depth at receiver in Indy is outstanding, Starting with All Pro wide-out Reggie Wayne and All Pro tight end Dallas Clark, if The Saints try to shut down both Wayne and Clark like the Jets tried to do then Peyton simply goes to young but very dangerous wide-outs Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie.
Basically the Saints get to pick their poison. All four Colt receivers are in tune with Peyton's unmatched ability to audible at the line of scrimmage.
4, Indy's version of the no name defense,
A lot is being made Dwight Freeney's status but it was the same way when All Pro Safety Bob Sanders went down during the season. He was not missed and neither will be Freeney, Colt backups will step up. (I don't want to make this to long by quoting names).
The Colts play team defense like no one else and swarm to the ball like no one else. The Jets got a bad break when Shonn Greene injured his ribs early in the 3rd quarter but the Colts had shut down the vaunted Jets rushing attack before that happened and ended up yielding a mere 83 yards on 26 carries to the #1 rushing offense in football, forcing The Jets to have to depend on Mark Sanchez to keep them in the game.
That didn't happen.
5. The Colts pass rush.
(Freeney or no Freeney) will be hounding Drew Brees for 4 quarters. Given stopping the run as their #1 priority vs the Jets they still applied plenty of pressure on Mark Sanchez.
Drew Brees is elusive and he will need to be to avoid getting sacked and knocked down all day.
The Colts are underrated defensively this year, a conception they can lay to rest tomorrow night.
6. Intangibles.
Now the time has come for the Colts to collect for not putting themselves through the pressure of an 19-0 season. They let Polian and Caldwell get roasted by the media but the result is a well rested almost totally healthy team that has one goal - beat the Saints. They are not worried about the Old Dolphins drinking champagne, the pressure of all that best team ever is off their backs, they only have to concentrate on going 1-0 to finish the year. Something I think they will do without a lot of drama.
7. Finally just looking at the Saints Defense (especially compared to the two fielded by The Ravens and Jets). Lets look at the NFC Championship Game stats.
First Downs Vikings 31 - 17 pass - 10 run 4 penalty Saints 15 - 8 pass - 4 run - 3 pen.
3rd dwon % - Vikes 7 of 12 Saints 3 of 12
Total Net Yards Vikes 475 Saints 257
Ave. Yards per play Vikes 5.8 - Saints 4.7
Yards rushing Vikes 157 on 36 rushes Saints 68 on 23 rushes
Yards passing Vikes 310 Saints 189
Ave Yards per pass 28 of 46 6.8 YPP Saints 17 of 31 5.9 YPP
Had Intercepted Vikes 2 - Saints 0 - Key stat that eventually decided game.
Punts Vikes 4 for 39 YPP Saints 7 for 51 YPP
Fumbles lost Vikes 3 Saints 1
Turnovers Vikes 5 Saints 1 (I don't see that happening vs Colts)
Time of possession Vikes 36.49 Saints 27.56 (including almost 5 minutes in OT to zero in OT for Vikes).
Points Vikes 28 Saints 31
You can see what turnovers will do to a team. Despite dominating the Saints, The Vikes lost because they lost the turnover battle 5-1..The Colts and Peyton Manning (QB RTG on road 112.6 in 2009) especially know this.
Try to picture the Colts offense vs The Saints defense...I know it is just one game but the numbers are quite telling...
Play on Indy Colts at a widely available -4.5 for four big units...These opportunities don't come by all that often.
Best of luck to all, wil..:toast:
I might add a prop later for a unit or two but have some homework to do.
Saints Fans, I want you to know I hate the Colts (being a Pats fans) and am proud of how far the Saints have come since they hired Sean Payton and signed Drew Brees. The post above is for wagering purposes not rooting purposes - two very different animals...Don't be mad please because I am betting the Colts...wil.
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Numbered..
1. Obviously NFL MVP Peyton Manning.
Manning followed up an outstanding regular season
by torching two of the NFL's better defenses in do or die playoff games. The game that really sold me was Manning's performance against the #1 ranked defense in football belonging to The New York Jets. I TIVO'd it and have watched it several times. Manning so far in two playoff games is 56 of 83 with 5 TDs and 1 Int with a QB Rtg of 104.6 against two excellent defenses.
Peyton lit up the Jets' defense for 377 yards and 3 TD passes despite some intense pressure brought by The Jets' pass rush. The Saints pressured Brett Farve but were still burned for over 300 yards in the air.
Face it - Manning has opened up a gap between himself and the rest of the premier QBs in the league. Guys like Rivers, Brady, Brees, Farve, Rogers, McNabb, Rothlesberger, and a few others are good but today more so than in a long time is the gap between the best and the rest been so wide.
2. Colts Super Bowl experience (nothing to sneeze at).
The Colts are staying in the same hotel they stayed three years ago, many of the players even staying in the same rooms they were in three years ago.
The Colts are practicing in the same facility they used before they waxed the Bears in SB XLI.
Nearly half of this years playoff roster has actual Super Bowl (not just playoff) experience.
25 Colts are still with the team from the one that won SB XLI.
This game for the Colts is about taking care of business, just making it to the SB is far from enough for the all business Colts. They know what it takes to win this game and have the coaches and players to do it.
3. Colts' receiving corps.
The Colts passing game is 2nd to none right now and is ready to take on the NFL's 26th ranked passing defense.
The depth at receiver in Indy is outstanding, Starting with All Pro wide-out Reggie Wayne and All Pro tight end Dallas Clark, if The Saints try to shut down both Wayne and Clark like the Jets tried to do then Peyton simply goes to young but very dangerous wide-outs Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie.
Basically the Saints get to pick their poison. All four Colt receivers are in tune with Peyton's unmatched ability to audible at the line of scrimmage.
4, Indy's version of the no name defense,
A lot is being made Dwight Freeney's status but it was the same way when All Pro Safety Bob Sanders went down during the season. He was not missed and neither will be Freeney, Colt backups will step up. (I don't want to make this to long by quoting names).
The Colts play team defense like no one else and swarm to the ball like no one else. The Jets got a bad break when Shonn Greene injured his ribs early in the 3rd quarter but the Colts had shut down the vaunted Jets rushing attack before that happened and ended up yielding a mere 83 yards on 26 carries to the #1 rushing offense in football, forcing The Jets to have to depend on Mark Sanchez to keep them in the game.
That didn't happen.
5. The Colts pass rush.
(Freeney or no Freeney) will be hounding Drew Brees for 4 quarters. Given stopping the run as their #1 priority vs the Jets they still applied plenty of pressure on Mark Sanchez.
Drew Brees is elusive and he will need to be to avoid getting sacked and knocked down all day.
The Colts are underrated defensively this year, a conception they can lay to rest tomorrow night.
6. Intangibles.
Now the time has come for the Colts to collect for not putting themselves through the pressure of an 19-0 season. They let Polian and Caldwell get roasted by the media but the result is a well rested almost totally healthy team that has one goal - beat the Saints. They are not worried about the Old Dolphins drinking champagne, the pressure of all that best team ever is off their backs, they only have to concentrate on going 1-0 to finish the year. Something I think they will do without a lot of drama.
7. Finally just looking at the Saints Defense (especially compared to the two fielded by The Ravens and Jets). Lets look at the NFC Championship Game stats.
First Downs Vikings 31 - 17 pass - 10 run 4 penalty Saints 15 - 8 pass - 4 run - 3 pen.
3rd dwon % - Vikes 7 of 12 Saints 3 of 12
Total Net Yards Vikes 475 Saints 257
Ave. Yards per play Vikes 5.8 - Saints 4.7
Yards rushing Vikes 157 on 36 rushes Saints 68 on 23 rushes
Yards passing Vikes 310 Saints 189
Ave Yards per pass 28 of 46 6.8 YPP Saints 17 of 31 5.9 YPP
Had Intercepted Vikes 2 - Saints 0 - Key stat that eventually decided game.
Punts Vikes 4 for 39 YPP Saints 7 for 51 YPP
Fumbles lost Vikes 3 Saints 1
Turnovers Vikes 5 Saints 1 (I don't see that happening vs Colts)
Time of possession Vikes 36.49 Saints 27.56 (including almost 5 minutes in OT to zero in OT for Vikes).
Points Vikes 28 Saints 31
You can see what turnovers will do to a team. Despite dominating the Saints, The Vikes lost because they lost the turnover battle 5-1..The Colts and Peyton Manning (QB RTG on road 112.6 in 2009) especially know this.
Try to picture the Colts offense vs The Saints defense...I know it is just one game but the numbers are quite telling...
Play on Indy Colts at a widely available -4.5 for four big units...These opportunities don't come by all that often.
Best of luck to all, wil..:toast:
I might add a prop later for a unit or two but have some homework to do.
Saints Fans, I want you to know I hate the Colts (being a Pats fans) and am proud of how far the Saints have come since they hired Sean Payton and signed Drew Brees. The post above is for wagering purposes not rooting purposes - two very different animals...Don't be mad please because I am betting the Colts...wil.
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Shits and giggles prop: I like it for small money. Reason - because of the plus money payoff..One of the following Wayne, Clark, Addai, Garcon or Collie could get lucky and score two TDs.
At 5Dimes
2271 Any Indianapolis Colt player over 1 TD Scored +110
BOL. wil.
PS. Make sure you are certain what you are betting if you play this prop. Sometime these props can read strangely. I assume this prop wins if any singular Colt player scores more than 1 TD during the entire game including OT if applicable.
At 5Dimes
2271 Any Indianapolis Colt player over 1 TD Scored +110
BOL. wil.
PS. Make sure you are certain what you are betting if you play this prop. Sometime these props can read strangely. I assume this prop wins if any singular Colt player scores more than 1 TD during the entire game including OT if applicable.
