Analysis: San Diego Chargers to win SB51 +8000

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If you read the headline, you will say: “does he really think the Chargers are going to win it all?”. I think the Chargers have a shot, but I locked this one in because of value. This is more about an investment than a prediction. They are going into this season as the most underrated team and the value in the line is tremendous. You can and will hedge out later. When predicting the future, there are always a lot of IFs. But I did my homework and I got a really strong read: IF Philip Rivers stays healthy, the Chargers are going to the playoffs and will likely win the AFC West.


The Chargers went 4-12, but they weren’t a 4-12 team on paper. 9 of their 11 starters on offense missed more than 50% of the snaps in 2015. When I remember right, the Chargers were without their five OL starters at home against the Chiefs. Melvin Gordon had no shot at running behind this line. How can Rivers run this offense if it’s completely decimated and his OC keeps calling stubborn plays?
During the off-season, San Diego did a great job surrounding Rivers with the pieces this offense needs to succeed. They grabbed speedy Travis Benjamin to finally have a guy who can stretch the field. They drafted TE Hunter Henry out of Arkansas. Henry is a great route runner who will cause havoc on routes against LBs. Hunter has great hands, dropped only two passes during the last two seasons. He and Gates fill out the position very well.


They got one of the best centers in Matt Slauson from Chicago who replaces Trevor Robinson, who replaced Chris Watt last season and played 89% of the snaps. Robinson was one of the worst centers in the league. Slauson – originally a guard – played the C position phenomenal in 2015 and is a massive upgrade for Rivers. Then GM Tom Telesco drafted C Max Tuerk (USC) in the 3rd round. Tuerk is coming off an ACL injury but he got freakish athleticism. Prior to his injury, he gave up only one pressure on 145 pass block snaps in 2015. At USC, he played C, G and also T. His best fit is on the interior though. He is expected to get ready for the season so I expect him to play either G next to Slauson at C or vice versa. But what we can say for sure: this offensive line will be completely revamped from what the Chargers had last season.
I think the most overlooked guy is who Telesco took in the 6th round: FB Derek Watt, brother of older JJ. Derek Watt was one of the keys for Melvin Gordon to succeed at Wisconsin. He is going to open up some lanes next season. He also had 13 receptions for 139 yards in 2015.


With the offensive personnel, the Chargers are able to attack opposing defenses at every inch of the field. But another big reason to be excited about this offense is Ken Whisenhunt, who was signed as their offensive coordinator. He was the Chargers’ OC in 2013, the year the Chargers finished 2nd in NYPPA (7.5) and 2nd in pass DVOA (52.5%). During the last 10 years, the pass DVOA number of 50% was crossed only 13 times. In 2013, the Chargers made the playoffs. That year was also Rivers’ best season as a Charger with a completion percentage of 69.5% and a TD-INT ratio of 32-11. The passing game will get a huge boost and now they can also run the ball. They will play a possession kind of offense. Feed Gordon and open up space for this dangerous QB-WR-TE connection. Per definition, this is a top-5 offense and they might compete for the best in the league.


The Chargers’ defense was a huge concern, but down the stretch in 2015 they heated up. Denzel Perryman was a force on ILB against the run. They added Brendon Mebane at NT who is an upgrade and Corey Liuget and Joey Bosa – their 3rd overall pick – will work on the two other interior spots. I really believe Bosa can play 3-4 end. But I also expect the Chargers to get creative at times. Melvin Ingram took a huge step forward, established himself as a good pass rusher and even Jerry Attoucho showed some flashes, being more effective against the run.


The safety position is questionable, but Dwight Lowery brings a lot of leadership and experience. And maybe he will look much better when playing next to more quality than he was surrounded by in Indy. The CB position is superior. Jason Verrett is probably the best cover corner in the league, Casey Hayward (from GB) probably was the best nickel corner last season. But he can also play on the outside where aging and declining Brandon Flowers needs to regain his momentum. Overall, this is a pretty solid defense that will benefit from great coverage by Hayward and Verrett.


They went 0-6 within the division, because they had tremendous matchup problems. Their OL got blasted by the Broncos and Chiefs and they couldn’t get any pressure on the Raiders. Defensively, the first Raiders game was a very poor one by the Chargers. This will change this season. The Chiefs defense took a step back, missing Sean Smith and Justin Houston for a fair share of the season. He will definitely miss the opener. Mike DeVito is also not playing. The Chargers have much improved matchups on both sides of the ball. Look for an upset in week one! Same with the Broncos. The Chargers already forced OT at Oakland in week 16 and they should atleast split the series. I expect them to not go worse than 4-2 within the division.


Their schedule is probably the easiest one in the league. They face the two worst divisions of both conferences, the AFC South and the NFC South. Within the AFC they got games against the Browns and Dolphins. They only have one road trip with b2b road games in weeks 7 and 8 at Atlanta and Denver. Prior to that they have a TNF game so they got 10 days off before they start traveling. The Broncos will have a short week before that game.


Regression: The Chargers finished 27th in FO’s “adjusted games lost” category. 88.5 games were missed due to injuries. That has to change next season. They also went 3-9 in close games. This is another statistical category that showed regression over the years.


Prediction: I really think the Chargers will win 11+ games this season and they are definitely going to make the playoffs. I will add more futures on the division title and playoffs as the training camp goes on. Don’t wanna have more than one future on one team too early. If the Chargers make the playoffs as I really believe they will, the 80-1 ticket is completely money and you can easily hedge out a decent return.


San Diego Chargers to win SB51 +8000
 

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great detail. great post. thanks. best of luck!
 
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Good analysis & let's face it at 80/1 you wont do much damage. I have always liked Rivers and he can play at an elite level when well protected....my concern with SD is the off-field distractiosns re: the franchise moving, can a team win with its fans virtually having withdrawn their support? That's my big question on them, but 80's does seem over the odds.
 
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By your analysis, Chargers to win over 7 games -125 should be very playable. Just looked at their schedule. 11 wins is pretty bold. I'm not a big NFL guy, so what do I know?
 

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Love the over 7 wins, they will have a winning record. Unfortunately the defense has lots of holes, and they won't win the SB though they can win a couple playoff games. Value is there I Guess.
 

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Good analysis & let's face it at 80/1 you wont do much damage. I have always liked Rivers and he can play at an elite level when well protected....my concern with SD is the off-field distractiosns re: the franchise moving, can a team win with its fans virtually having withdrawn their support? That's my big question on them, but 80's does seem over the odds.

I think the basic fan - without insulting anyone - is biased, blinded and easy to retune. Let them start the season 4-0 (which is possible) and all the fans will be back cheering and rooting for the Chargers. The Chargers need a good season to get the needed majority of the votes for a new stadium. How to do better than by winning a lot of Football games?
 

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By your analysis, Chargers to win over 7 games -125 should be very playable. Just looked at their schedule. 11 wins is pretty bold. I'm not a big NFL guy, so what do I know?

With the AFC South and NFC South, they got one of the easiest schedules in the league. If they don't get decimated by injuries just like in 2015, 11 wins are really manageable.
 

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Love the over 7 wins, they will have a winning record. Unfortunately the defense has lots of holes, and they won't win the SB though they can win a couple playoff games. Value is there I Guess.

I don't play many futures, just like 4-6 because I don't wanna tie my money for almost half a year. I try to get value on futures: already locked in Bengals U9.5 +135 and Rams O7.5 +122. I will add the Chargers season total as soon as it pops to plus money. For me personally, there isn't a difference between 7 and 7.5.
 

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They are my team. They seemed to blame much of the problems on the coordinators and released a bunch of them after last year. Problem is Telesco and McCoy hired them in the 1st place so you have to wonder about their judgement. They also misjudged the talent at C and DT. Chris Watt was not a starter and they were near the bottom in run D. They addressed those areas and others finally but they don't inspire a lot of confidence.

I know we probably have the worst starting S pair in the league so teams w good TEs and pass catching RBs will give us problems. But anything is possible. See more of a 9-7 type season w some luck
 

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Stevie Johnson's test results are back from yesterday's injury... Torn meniscus... Surgery required and likely out at least months and possibly the whole season... Unreal!
 

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Best o luck. I think 11 wins is a stretch but they have nowhere to go but up from last season.
 

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Thanks guys. Stevie Johnson is a blow but I think James Jones will be utilized very well by Ken Whisenhunt.
 

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Thanks guys. Stevie Johnson is a blow but I think James Jones will be utilized very well by Ken Whisenhunt.

Johnson hasn't been a real factor since 2012. He's more of a name at this point in his career.

Their OL play is going to be the key to their offensive production.
 

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Johnson hasn't been a real factor since 2012. He's more of a name at this point in his career.

Their OL play is going to be the key to their offensive production.

He was on pace for ~ 80/900/6 in 2015. But I agree, their biggest focus is OL.
 

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