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I was going to point out that Seattle's schedule from Aug 7th - 26th (Balt 3, ChiSox 3, Minn 3, ChiSox 3, Minn 3, Texas 4) was about as easy as it gets. If they are facing a tough schedule now its because they were given an easier one earlier. Somehow I'm thinking you dont want to hear that.

It could be argued that the only reason they were able to get into Wild Card contention was the benefit of that easy August. I think the Angels coming into Seattle and sweeping that 3 gamer, all by blowouts was the beginning of the end for the M's. Hard to recover when you make it to within a game or 2 of the lead and get a beatdown like that.

Over the course of 162 games all the missed calls, ups and downs of the schedules, fatigue evens out and the best teams make it into the playoffs. Not trying to pile on, just an observation from someone on the outside.

The M's have a nice team, maybe a year or two away from being World Series threats

All teams have their easy stretch run of games, very few have a stretch like the Mariners are going now.
 
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Addict101.....what are you going to do when the Seahawks run into a bad strech this year?? Who are you going to blame?? Every sports team has a bad run and your Mariners picked a bad time for theirs...face it, they are not a very good team now and I believe they overachieved given their starting pitching woes...man-up and do not blame the schedule or west coast travel woes....maybe your ex-manager saw this coming....I bet that in the beginning of the season, you just wanted to see them competitive...cheer up, it is football season..
 

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Hope I'm totally wrong on this, but this game is the backbreaker. Blown call by the 2nd base umpire on Ichiro costs us a run (Ibanez went on to hit a 3 run HR, so do the math). Back to back to back walks including a awful call on Posada to give the NY fagats the lead. Game over, Yankees up 3 now and I'm willing to say they'll hold on. They'll hold on because MLB gave them the biggest joke of a september schedule in baseball. How many times do they play the Royals this year anyway?

MLB gets what they want, the Yankees are in now. Go have a circle jerk NY.

Yeah youre totally wrong.

There's no crying in baseball.
 

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Addict101.....what are you going to do when the Seahawks run into a bad strech this year?? Who are you going to blame?? Every sports team has a bad run and your Mariners picked a bad time for theirs...face it, they are not a very good team now and I believe they overachieved given their starting pitching woes...man-up and do not blame the schedule or west coast travel woes....maybe your ex-manager saw this coming....I bet that in the beginning of the season, you just wanted to see them competitive...cheer up, it is football season..


Oh if you told me the record we would have today I would totally take it. It's just disapointing to see them fall off the map like this. Go ahead and call them overachievers, but this lineup is very legitimate. Yeah the starting pitching has been bad all year, but the bullpen has been great all season long. It had it's worst week of the year at the wrong time, and I think it's because of the insane schedule we've been playing the last two weeks. 17 of 20 games on the road? Sorry, that's bullshit. Like I said, go ahead and hurl the kindergarten insults at me but I gaurantee you that if this was your team in the same position you would be bitching too. Go ahead and deny it, but you would. I'm just a passionate fan wanting my team to have success. And please don't tell me the Yankees are that much better than Seattle. The series was split 5-5 while the Yankees had 7 of the 10 at Yankee Stadium. So please don't use that, you'll only look stupid.
 

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Addict101.....what are you going to do when the Seahawks run into a bad strech this year?? Who are you going to blame?? Every sports team has a bad run and your Mariners picked a bad time for theirs...face it, they are not a very good team now and I believe they overachieved given their starting pitching woes...man-up and do not blame the schedule or west coast travel woes....maybe your ex-manager saw this coming....I bet that in the beginning of the season, you just wanted to see them competitive...cheer up, it is football season..


As far as the Seahawks, a 'bad run' won't come. Not in the faceplant the M's have done anyway. The schedule isn't to bad and the improvements on defense are going to make this defense top 15 at the worst. SA is back into MVP form as even east coast mediaheads are saying. Branch in the offense another season will be much better than Jackson ever was. I'm not worried about the Hawks.
 

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Your team had a nice year, and a lot to be happy about... they don't really have a true ace though and that hurts them in big series.

nice year.
 
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Oh if you told me the record we would have today I would totally take it. It's just disapointing to see them fall off the map like this. Go ahead and call them overachievers, but this lineup is very legitimate. Yeah the starting pitching has been bad all year, but the bullpen has been great all season long. It had it's worst week of the year at the wrong time, and I think it's because of the insane schedule we've been playing the last two weeks. 17 of 20 games on the road? Sorry, that's bullshit. Like I said, go ahead and hurl the kindergarten insults at me but I gaurantee you that if this was your team in the same position you would be bitching too. Go ahead and deny it, but you would. I'm just a passionate fan wanting my team to have success. And please don't tell me the Yankees are that much better than Seattle. The series was split 5-5 while the Yankees had 7 of the 10 at Yankee Stadium. So please don't use that, you'll only look stupid.


Nothing I said was kindergarten remarks..17-20 on the road? What about all the home games before then?? Each team plays the same number of games last time I checked...My team is in the same position as yours, the Phillies are also talented but without a complete pitching staff, you are going nowhere...Yanks have ALWAYS had problems in Seattle...and like I said in a previous thread, the Yanks would be favored in every game they played except maybe when Felix pitches against them at home...I hate the Yanks, but they have a far more complete team than the Mariners...love watching Ichiro play and Johima is a fine catcher...so stop crying, there is no crying in baseball as someone else has already said....try being a Phillie fan, then maybe you can cry:toast:
 

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Nothing I said was kindergarten remarks..17-20 on the road? What about all the home games before then?? Each team plays the same number of games last time I checked...My team is in the same position as yours, the Phillies are also talented but without a complete pitching staff, you are going nowhere...Yanks have ALWAYS had problems in Seattle...and like I said in a previous thread, the Yanks would be favored in every game they played except maybe when Felix pitches against them at home...I hate the Yanks, but they have a far more complete team than the Mariners...love watching Ichiro play and Johima is a fine catcher...so stop crying, there is no crying in baseball as someone else has already said....try being a Phillie fan, then maybe you can cry:toast:

That comment was directed towards you, sorry if you took it that way. I wouldn't say a 'far' more complete team either. The Yankees have a complete pitching staff? Really? This isn't crying, what do I have to cry over so far this season? My team is 10 games over .500 and made the season entertaining all year long. I'm merely bitching the way the season has gone over the last 2 weeks. It's crap where the Cleveland game was put on the schedule, I don't see why the schedule makers couldn't have put that game at the end of the season. A day off works wonders in MLB. I think we can all agree with that.
 

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Addict you have been very solid with analysis but you do come off a little bit of a homer when you talk about Seattle.
 

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Addict you have been very solid with analysis but you do come off a little bit of a homer when you talk about Seattle.


I'm a homer. Who isn't deep down when it comes to their hometown squad? It's not to say I don't know anything else about MLB or the NFL, because I like to think I do. It's just when it comes to the Yankees or Red Sox though, I'll never back down, because I haven't forgot about the '01 playoffs. As a 13 year old kid I cried my eyes out when we lost to NY. It just didn't make sense how a 116 win team can't make it to the World Series. Of course now it's how baseball is, any team that gets into October has a shot no matter how well the season went for you.
 

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I'm a homer. Who isn't deep down when it comes to their hometown squad? It's not to say I don't know anything else about MLB or the NFL, because I like to think I do. It's just when it comes to the Yankees or Red Sox though, I'll never back down, because I haven't forgot about the '01 playoffs. As a 13 year old kid I cried my eyes out when we lost to NY. It just didn't make sense how a 116 win team can't make it to the World Series. Of course now it's how baseball is, any team that gets into October has a shot no matter how well the season went for you.

I was actually giving you a compliment as very knowledgeable, but you seem to wear that Mariners uniform sometimes when you don't like an objective opinion about the M's ..I understand it though, totally...I would have bit off my head last week had I taken a shot at my team when I was right in the middle of a pennant race and losing every game.

You were only 13 when they won 116 games? :ohno: WOW!

yeah that was a tough one, and the Yankees sleep walked thru that season as I recall , with a very low reg. season win total.
 
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Playoffs?? I haven't seen a championship since 1980, a fact that Journeyman and Judge Wapner remind me all the time....but when it comes, how sweet it is!!! Teams have to get hot at the right time, just like Cleveland is doing now....being a homer can be humbling....look at Choptalk, the ultimate homer...can you imagine what happens if either the Saints or the Braves win a championship?? No harm in defending your team, but blaming scheduling is weak....good luck to the Seahawks, my daughter lives in Olympia, and has been to a couple of games over the past three years...
 

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I was actually giving you a compliment as very knowledgeable, but you seem to wear that Mariners uniform sometimes when you don't like an objective opinion about the M's ..I understand it though, totally...I would have bit off my head last week had I taken a shot at my team when I was right in the middle of a pennant race and losing every game.

You were only 13 when they won 116 games? :ohno: WOW!

yeah that was a tough one, and the Yankees sleep walked thru that season as I recall , with a very low reg. season win total.


Oh I knew you were, and I appreciate that. Yeah, that '01 season seems like a long time ago. High School gone by, now college. Unreal shit. And yeah, what hurt the most was after Justice hit the HR off Rhodes which put the game out of reach and then the NY crowd chanting overrated. That absolutely ripped me apart. I still hold a deep grudge over that, because of the accomplishments of the team and all.

I know that Cleveland and Philly haven't won anything in a long time, but don't forget about how long it's been that Seattle has won anything. One championship in the history of the city being back in '77 in which I obviously wasn't around for. It's just been adding up over the years, the 116 wins not being enough, running into the best team in NBA history in '96, Super Bowl XL and the way we lost that, it just fucking blows...
 

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Oh I knew you were, and I appreciate that. Yeah, that '01 season seems like a long time ago. High School gone by, now college. Unreal shit. And yeah, what hurt the most was after Justice hit the HR off Rhodes which put the game out of reach and then the NY crowd chanting overrated. That absolutely ripped me apart. I still hold a deep grudge over that, because of the accomplishments of the team and all.

I know that Cleveland and Philly haven't won anything in a long time, but don't forget about how long it's been that Seattle has won anything. One championship in the history of the city being back in '77 in which I obviously wasn't around for. It's just been adding up over the years, the 116 wins not being enough, Super Bowl XL and the way we lost that, it just fucking blows...

Man I remember those Bullets Sonics series' ! :ohno:

I also remember the 'Justice game' Seattle started the journeyman lefty his name escapes me, I could look it up but want to remain authentic during this conversation....I had NY that afternoon and remember that game being very frustrating, then kaboom a deep shot into the upperdeck! Yanks won a lot of close series in that tiem period, also against Oakland the following season, very fortunate.
 

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Playoffs?? I haven't seen a championship since 1980, a fact that Journeyman and Judge Wapner remind me all the time....but when it comes, how sweet it is!!! Teams have to get hot at the right time, just like Cleveland is doing now....being a homer can be humbling....look at Choptalk, the ultimate homer...can you imagine what happens if either the Saints or the Braves win a championship?? No harm in defending your team, but blaming scheduling is weak....good luck to the Seahawks, my daughter lives in Olympia, and has been to a couple of games over the past three years...

Viejo with his best Jim Mora imitation! :lolBIG: 'playoffs'
 
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Wow,Addict101....my daughter is older than you....your time will come, and when it does, time to party like it's 1999, as Prince would say...Just hope you don't wait for another championship season for 27 years like I am doing now..but to remind you (and JMAN) I had a blast back then when the Phillies, Flyers, and Sixers won in the same year and the Eagles got to the Superbowl....I might have been worse than Choptalk back then...LOL
 

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The late 70's early 80s were a glorious time in Philly sports, no doubt! similar to the early late 60's and early 70's in Baltimore.

Not that I remember but, can you imagine being an Orioles fan and Colts fan in Balto back then, getting upset by the 69 Mets and 68 Jets!

Two of the biggest and mosty famous in sports history.
 

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