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Do we know for sure his dad did not live with the girlfriend? I believe it is her house, but why would he be staying there if his dad did not also live there. I was under the assumption that his dad lived with the girl friend.

WW, I believe I read that his dad wanted him to stay there during his school suspension so he wouldn't be home and around his friends that would present a bad influence on him while he was home. I could be wrong though.
 

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WW, I believe I read that his dad wanted him to stay there during his school suspension so he wouldn't be home and around his friends that would present a bad influence on him while he was home. I could be wrong though.

So much misinformation out there, it is hard to determine what is accurate and what is not. Some say TM was 6'3" and 140 lbs, some say slightly heavier, etc. Official autopsy had him at 5'11" and 158 lbs. Most say he was a visitor, and some say he and his dad were staying with his girlfriend. Witnesses are now changing their stories.

People are going to believe what they choose to believe, possibly making this a very long thread. Because of so much misinformation, I am going to wait for the information to come out of the trial. The only true winners here will be the attorneys and the attention grabbing whores.
 

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Absolutely had a right to be there. Just correcting the "one of the parents lived there" information. The statement could be misleading.

I stand corrected, although I don't think that "staying at the significant other of his father's girlfriend" is significantly different under the circumstances, so I'm not sure how much anybody could be misled. To the people who keep rambling on about the "right" to ask anybody a question, they have a "right" to tell you to go fuck yourself. Now, if Zimmerman did this and got that response, prompting Zimmerman to shove Martin and/or grabbed him by the lapel, and proceeded to get the snot beat out of him, the contention that Zimmerman is blameless if he pulls a gun and kills Martin is ludicrous-even the guy who WROTE that dumb ass law in Florida says that this situation doesn't apply to stand your ground. Did that actually happen? Who knows? But to act like it's a done deal that Martin was the aggressor because of some bullshit "defensive wounds" is laughably stupid-as is the contention that the police should be believed because of what Martin told them(ESPECIALLY this particular police force). Zimmerman has already told a number of lies that we know about(his head was banged on a concrete sidewalk for a a full minute? Yeah right!) and, I suspect, some that we DON'T know about yet. He'll be in jail or dead in 5 years. I don't believe in capital punishment, let alone vigilante justice, but, one makes exceptions...
 

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I stand corrected, although I don't think that "staying at the significant other of his father's girlfriend" is significantly different under the circumstances, so I'm not sure how much anybody could be misled. To the people who keep rambling on about the "right" to ask anybody a question, they have a "right" to tell you to go fuck yourself. Now, if Zimmerman did this and got that response, prompting Zimmerman to shove Martin and/or grabbed him by the lapel, and proceeded to get the snot beat out of him, the contention that Zimmerman is blameless if he pulls a gun and kills Martin is ludicrous-even the guy who WROTE that dumb ass law in Florida says that this situation doesn't apply to stand your ground. Did that actually happen? Who knows? But to act like it's a done deal that Martin was the aggressor because of some bullshit "defensive wounds" is laughably stupid-as is the contention that the police should be believed because of what Martin told them(ESPECIALLY this particular police force). Zimmerman has already told a number of lies that we know about(his head was banged on a concrete sidewalk for a a full minute? Yeah right!) and, I suspect, some that we DON'T know about yet. He'll be in jail or dead in 5 years. I don't believe in capital punishment, let alone vigilante justice, but, one makes exceptions...

Yeah, because why even look at the evidence to begin with? That's laughable. Why would anyone want to do that?
 

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In all reality Dafinch, do you place any importance on the evidence in this case?
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[ Looks like Vitterd proven wrong yet again.... Idiot sits home in his recliner, and immediately says he knew exactly what
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George Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test Day After Trayvon Martin Killing



A day after killing Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman passed a police lie detector test when asked if he confronted the teenager and whether he feared for his life “when you shot
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the guy,” according to documents released today by Florida prosecutors.
According to a “confidential report” prepared by the Sanford Police Department, Zimmerman, 28, willingly submitted to a computer voice stress analyzer (CVSA) “truth verification” on February 27. Investigators concluded that he “has told substantially the complete truth in regards to this examination.”
Zimmerman, the report noted, “was classified as No Deception Indicated (NDI).”
Along with questions about whether his first name was George and if it was Monday, Zimmerman was asked, “Did you confront the guy you shot?’ He answered, “No.” He was also asked, “Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy.” Zimmerman replied, “Yes.”
Before the CVSA test, Zimmerman--who was apparently not accompanied by legal counsel--signed a Sanford Police Department release stating that he was undergoing the examination “voluntarily, without duress, coercion, threat or promise.”
The lie detector test was requested by Chris Serino, a homicide investigator with the Sanford Police Department.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/george-zimmerman-lie-detector-421395
 
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[ Looks like Vitterd proven wrong yet again.... Idiot sits home in his recliner, and immediately says he knew exactly what
happened. ]


George Zimmerman Passed Police Lie Detector Test Day After Trayvon Martin Killing



A day after killing Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman passed a police lie detector test when asked if he confronted the teenager and whether he feared for his life “when you shot
zimmermangnew.jpg
the guy,” according to documents released today by Florida prosecutors.
According to a “confidential report” prepared by the Sanford Police Department, Zimmerman, 28, willingly submitted to a computer voice stress analyzer (CVSA) “truth verification” on February 27. Investigators concluded that he “has told substantially the complete truth in regards to this examination.”
Zimmerman, the report noted, “was classified as No Deception Indicated (NDI).”
Along with questions about whether his first name was George and if it was Monday, Zimmerman was asked, “Did you confront the guy you shot?’ He answered, “No.” He was also asked, “Were you in fear for your life, when you shot the guy.” Zimmerman replied, “Yes.”
Before the CVSA test, Zimmerman--who was apparently not accompanied by legal counsel--signed a Sanford Police Department release stating that he was undergoing the examination “voluntarily, without duress, coercion, threat or promise.”
The lie detector test was requested by Chris Serino, a homicide investigator with the Sanford Police Department.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/george-zimmerman-lie-detector-421395

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Guess you havent been watching the latest developments in the case zit. Guy is now a convicted liar.... him and his weasel wife.... this guy needs jail time.... what a scumbag
 

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I'm quite sure Trayvon was a future career felon just waiting to happen. Don't follow spooky people like this, I prefer to go the other way.

Zimmerman will get off lightly, and he should move far from Florida if he gets off easily.
 

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I haven't been keeping up with the latest info on the case. Are the media still trying to show us the sweet 10yr oldMartin or are they finally showing the high school gangster photos of him?
 
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I haven't been keeping up with the latest info on the case. Are the media still trying to show us the sweet 10yr oldMartin or are they finally showing the high school gangster photos of him?

What difference does it make to you? It's obvious you have already made up your mind as to what happen...
 

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No i haven't made up my mind. I think any good lawyer will
Would prove reasonable doubt for zimmermanto get off. I just never like the media to try to influence my opinion. I actually thought that was the exact person who was shot when they showed that cute little boy. Then a week later someone at work showed me the other pictures. It made a big difference in my thought process in the whole incident that night.
 
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No i haven't made up my mind. I think any good lawyer will
Would prove reasonable doubt for zimmermanto get off. I just never like the media to try to influence my opinion. I actually thought that was the exact person who was shot when they showed that cute little boy. Then a week later someone at work showed me the other pictures. It made a big difference in my thought process in the whole incident that night.

So, you are basing your opinion on what happened that night on what Martin looks like and not what actually happened? What if they never showed a picture of him, would that make a difference?
 

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My 1st impression was made by the media showing me a cute boy that was shot to death. I thought how could this kid have attacked anyone? Or even scared anyone. Then I saw the current pictures of this kid. He didn't look as innocent as the1st impression the media tried to portray.
 

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New G. Zimmerman photo released today.
 

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