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It's funny how this is even a political event where people have to take sides. But then you get the clowns laughing about a group of bikers beating up some guy in a Prius. And it's funny how they call him a "young thug", "deserved to die", etc, etc. Then they complain when we call them racists, lol. Conservatives are funny.

In all seriousness AK, is saying a kid is a young thug and that he deserved to die because of his actions that night make me a racist? Maybe I guess that's your opinion. I'd call a white kid a young thug as well. A thug is a thug in my book.
 

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Many of these lower income gated communities are open during the day and closed at night where you need to either be buzzed in or have a code. Some don't even close and are just called gated communities because they are surrounded by a gate. This happened at 7 o clock so I imagine it was still open. But I could be wrong since I haven't looked it up.

They don't have to be low income communities to operate like you've described above. I've been in many that are not low income that operate just like you talk about above.
 

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Which is not really a surprise, because he is a defense attorney/professor, and as you know, that is one pretty liberal combination.

And, that is what makes this topic such a head-scratcher for me with the lines being drawn on this forum as they are, because usually the "liberals" should be circling the wagons around the criminal defendant (Zimmerman) while the "conservatives" should be screaming for a conviction.

That was the point I was getting at. Many dem's went racist following the likes of Al Sharpton over more level heads like Dershowitz. Dem's sometimes circle the wagons just because they think they can. Everyone is on to their charades now. They let justice take a back seat by prejudging Zimmerman. Everyone knows Zimmerman pulled the trigger but what is he legally guilty of, moreover what can he be convicted of. According to Dershowitz Sharpton's folly to rush to judgement have resulted in some errors by the DA which will make the charges difficult to prosecute. Dershowitz has supported republicans in the past and appears to make logical decisions unlike the liberal sheep on here. The lines that are drawn you allude to are simply about pointing out the folly of "assuming" that it all falls on Zimmerman. Probably is best to lay this one to rest until the trial starts as if arguing with the Tards has any redeeming values anyways. Like talking to a wall.
 

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The conservative treehouse discovered this huh? Lol.

What does this mean? He is in a fight therefore he deserves to be killed by a wannabe cop?

He is a young kid....he did drugs and got into fights...just like gw bush did in his younger years.

Zimmerman is going to walk. Get over it.
 

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Zimmerman is going to walk. Get over it.

Can you tell me who is gonna win the super bowl?

Perhaps you haven't seen what happens in high profile cases over the past few decades. Jury can be completely unpredicatable. I doubt the jury will consist of 12 fest zits. He may try to plea out anyway.
 

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Zimmerman is going to walk. Get over it.

If the DA knew about this and withheld it you can shuck this case and Dershowitz is right once again. If the DA did not know about this it is just as bad. I have said all along that Trayvon's parents are getting a pass on this whole thing and I never heard about an older brother until this broke. Them there Dem's can really pick their causes huh. Wrong on Professor Gates and wrong on Trayvon. The lame stream media just continues to trip on the truth.
 
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Zimmerman is going to walk. Get over it.
You are probably right, but he still fucked up and his life will be hell now because of it. And I would almost guarantee he will spend the rest of that life wishing he never got out of his car that night so that this never happened...
 
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Zimmerman is going to walk. .

Yep I agree he will walk unless some shocking evidence arises. I don't see how he can be convicted with what has come out so far. Zimmerman is a dueche though and he is going to have to watch his back for a long long time.
 
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You are probably right, but he still fucked up and his life will be hell now because of it. And I would almost guarantee he will spend the rest of that life wishing he never got out of his car that night so that this never happened...

I agree with you there...
 

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No way he walks. He had a gun on him and was chasing an individual. Regardless of his intent, he created the confrontation and he will have some consequences. Just like drunk drivers... of course they don't intend to kill anyone but their actions create a situation in which a death occurs.

Zim gets no less than 5 years.
 

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No way he walks. He had a gun on him and was chasing an individual. Regardless of his intent, he created the confrontation and he will have some consequences. Just like drunk drivers... of course they don't intend to kill anyone but their actions create a situation in which a death occurs.

Zim gets no less than 5 years.

Really?

http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/02/911-call-shows-zimmerman-stopped-following-martin-after-dispatchers-request-corroborates-story/

The 911 call George Zimmerman made on the night of Martin’s death is perhaps the most crucial piece of evidence cited by the media to drive the narrative that Zimmerman attacked Martin. Yet listening to reporters and talking heads discuss the case, it is as though not a single one of them has ever bothered to listen to the full call. In fact, as Breitbart.com has already revealed, NBC deceptively edited the tape of the 911 call to make it look like Zimmerman was motivated by racial animosity or bias, something that has been widely reported as factual from the beginning.

To this day, even relatively responsible journalists and commentators begin their commentary by saying things like, “There is a lot about the Martin shooting we don’t know, but what we do know is Zimmerman continued following Martin even after the police told him to stop.” The original story, still maintained by various CNN analysts, was even worse: that Zimmerman hunted down and murdered Martin in cold blood.

I have no idea where this assertion of fact could possibly have come from, but it is absolutely universal. Even now, pundits on every channel maintain that Zimmerman disobeyed a police order (though it wasn’t even an order) and continued chasing Martin. Zimmerman’s story from the beginning to police and to the media has been that he stopped following when the dispatcher told him to. There have been no witness statements to the contrary. For that matter, there are no witnesses claiming to have seen what happened before the physical altercation took place. But what does the 911 tape tell us?

From the call released by the Sanford Police:
At 2:07, Zimmerman tells the dispatcher, “He’s running.”
At 2:09, you can hear a car door open and an alarm begins that is undoubtedly the “door open, keys in ignition” warning on Zimmerman’s truck.
At 2:13, you can clearly hear the car door slamming shut, and the alarm stops.
At 2:17, Zimmerman’s voice wobbles and he starts breathing heavily into the phone, indicating that he has started running.
At 2:22, without any prompting other than the aforementioned noises and breathing, the dispatcher asks “Are you following him?” to which Zimmerman responds, “Yeah.”
At 2:26, the dispatcher says, “Okay, we don’t need you to do that,” to which Zimmerman responds, “Okay.”
Zimmerman proceeds to give the dispatcher his name. Then he says, “He ran.”

Zimmerman can still be heard breathing into the phone until about 2:39, at which point the heavy breathing stops entirely, a mere 13 seconds after the dispatcher asked him to stop following. A very calm and collected Zimmerman then proceeds to give the dispatcher his own information, directions and a description of his location for another 1 minute and 33 seconds.

The difference between someone running while on the phone and not running can be heard quite clearly, and I encourage readers to listen for themselves.

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So Zimmerman got out of his car and started running towards Trayvon. That is what we call "chasing". Boy you guys are dumb.
 
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No way he walks. He had a gun on him and was chasing an individual. Regardless of his intent, he created the confrontation and he will have some consequences. Just like drunk drivers... of course they don't intend to kill anyone but their actions create a situation in which a death occurs.

Zim gets no less than 5 years.

I'll wager $100 you are wrong. I know what you are saying but it is not against the law to verbally confront somebody even when having a gun. (As long as you have permit) The evidence thus far points to Trayvon as the physical aggressor which is assault.
 

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I'll wager $100 you are wrong. I know what you are saying but it is not against the law to verbally confront somebody even when having a gun. (As long as you have permit) The evidence thus far points to Trayvon as the physical aggressor which is assault.

But the prosecution can easily say that Trayvon was either provoked by harassment or acting in self defense. It's like going up to someone and calling them a "bitch" to their face and then shooting them after they punch you. Of course it was assault, but it was provoked. I don't know the correct legal terminology for that, but I know you just can't go following people at night, getting out of your car and following them on foot and be completely innocent when the person you are following becomes aggressive.

What Trayvon did was wrong, but it was instigated by what Zimmerman did wrong. And since Zimmerman had ultimate control in his hands to not get out of the car and pursue the individual, then he is responsible for the repercussions.

There is more than enough evidence that points to the fact that both Zimmerman and Trayvon knew what was going on. Trayvon knew Zimmerman was following him and Zimmerman knew Trayvon knew he was following him. It's going to be hard for the defense to get Zimmerman off with out any punishment because he knew exactly what he was doing and he did it with a gun on him.
 
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AkPhiDelt, You have someone challenging your claim that Zimmerman gets no less than 5 years.

$100 bet from BleedingPurple, you going to man up, or are you going to back down like a pussy?
 

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