All Things, Trayvon Martin / George Zimmerman

[roadreeler57]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=arial,helvetica]I keep hearing there is more to the story. I guess this is the more.


Subject: You might not have seen this about the Trayvon Martin case

[FONT=arial,helvetica]WOW,WHAT IS AMAZING IS THAT THE MEDIA IS SHOWING THE WRONG "STUFF"!!!![FONT=arial,helvetica]

Do you wonder why the Mainstream Media is using a seven year old photo of this thug?

[FONT=arial,helvetica]www.members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1939/020/Was_Trayvon_Martin_a_Drug_Dealer.html[FONT=arial,helvetica]

Maybe because his current pictures from his Myspace and Facebook pages show him as he really was the day he was shot...a 200lb+, 6'1" gangsta. His family and lawyer tried to scrub the true information but it didn't work...the real story is out now.

He was on a ten day suspension from school, but of course they sealed the records so the public doesn't know why. Look at the messages from his twitter account, SLIMM @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA. This guy was a thug and nothing less. Had the media shown his current pictures like the one of him flipping off the world or doing his gang signs, it would not fit into their innocent little boy just going for skittles story.

The reason Zimmerman was not charged is because their was an eyewitness to the entire event...you have to look real hard to find that story too. He attacked Zimmerman, broke his nose and then went back to beat him some more when Zimmerman finally used deadly force to protect himself.

This is nothing but the story of a gangsta attacking the wrong person in a concealed carry state and getting snuffed as he should have. Welcome to the real world kiddo and if you want to attack people without the risk of getting shot, better go to Chicago where the average law abiding citizen is not allowed to protect themselves!













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[wadd]

I had to take a class for CCW permit only.....Xtra Ins?...Not in Ohio

I wish I could CCW. The whole thing with Shitcago is that they want to dissuade you from having a weapon.
Thats why you have to spend money, and alot of time to get a pistol. Many dont want to go thru the BS to get a weapon.
As I said, its fucked up!

 

[roadreeler57]

I wish I could CCW. The whole thing with Shitcago is that they want to dissuade you from having a weapon.
Thats why you have to spend money, and alot of time to get a pistol. Many dont want to go thru the BS to get a weapon.
As I said, its fucked up!

I went to & thru Chicago many times with mine & Illinois does not recognise any other States CCWs....Had to go to the rail yards & some of those are in bad parts of town...I figure Id rather take a chance & possibly get in trouble than be dead & Id tell the judge the same...

 

[Albatross]

I have my CCW. No biggie. Only had one issue with it. Got pulled over by some green horn cop. I showed him my permit and told him that I have a 9mm in my glove box. He freaked. Ordered me out of the car, called in back-ups, and harassed me for about 20 minutes. The dip shit let me go after giving me the ticket for not wearing my seat belt. I could have got all heated, but I kept my cool. After I left, I called my county chair, he made a call and I received a personal call from the sheriff. The shiny badge caught hell, and I thought it was pretty funny. I was told by the sheriff to show up at the court date, which I did for the seat belt ticket. The sheriff himself showed up and spoke on my behalf. I would have loved to have captured the look on the cops face that ticketed me. I think he shit his pants. He caught me on the way out of court, and ask for my apology. Just one of those life situations that was just special. The best part of it all, the cop has basically been in my back pocket on any petty tickets that me or the old lady has gotten for the past few years. It is great!

 

[Willie99]

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=arial,helvetica]I keep hearing there is more to the story. I guess this is the more.


Subject: You might not have seen this about the Trayvon Martin case

[FONT=arial,helvetica]WOW,WHAT IS AMAZING IS THAT THE MEDIA IS SHOWING THE WRONG "STUFF"!!!![FONT=arial,helvetica]

Do you wonder why the Mainstream Media is using a seven year old photo of this thug?

[FONT=arial,helvetica]www.members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1939/020/Was_Trayvon_Martin_a_Drug_Dealer.html[FONT=arial,helvetica]

Maybe because his current pictures from his Myspace and Facebook pages show him as he really was the day he was shot...a 200lb+, 6'1" gangsta. His family and lawyer tried to scrub the true information but it didn't work...the real story is out now.

He was on a ten day suspension from school, but of course they sealed the records so the public doesn't know why. Look at the messages from his twitter account, SLIMM @NO_LIMIT_NIGGA. This guy was a thug and nothing less. Had the media shown his current pictures like the one of him flipping off the world or doing his gang signs, it would not fit into their innocent little boy just going for skittles story.

The reason Zimmerman was not charged is because their was an eyewitness to the entire event...you have to look real hard to find that story too. He attacked Zimmerman, broke his nose and then went back to beat him some more when Zimmerman finally used deadly force to protect himself.

This is nothing but the story of a gangsta attacking the wrong person in a concealed carry state and getting snuffed as he should have. Welcome to the real world kiddo and if you want to attack people without the risk of getting shot, better go to Chicago where the average law abiding citizen is not allowed to protect themselves!













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WOW, if that stuff is true, just WOW

looks like the racist Al Sharpton may have found himself another Tawana Brawley, no wonder he seems to be backing down

and the most unprepared man in the room says that if he had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin, let's see those recent pictures. It would be yet another classic fuckup by the retard in chief.

maybe Charles Manson should bring his baby pictures to his next parole hearing, that might help.

amazingly stupid people

 

[Willie99]

the OP just doing what the OP does best, getting it all wrong. It's tradition

 

[vitterd]

Willie confused yet again.

911 operator said don't follow him. He did. FACT.

Zimmerman shot an unarmed man. FACT.

No pictures of the victim giving the middle finger changes the facts in this case.

 

[Coldweather]

It's becoming quite apparent each day, that Mr Zimmerman protected himself from a big dude, who was trying to harm him, and the liberal media and Obama used the race card once again to cast aspersions on the white people. This is wrong and bad and should not be tolerated!

Bad bad bad on their part!

:nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5::nono5:

 

[Willie99]

Willie confused yet again.

911 operator said don't follow him. He did. FACT.

Zimmerman shot an unarmed man. FACT.

No pictures of the victim giving the middle finger changes the facts in this case.

the middle finger is meaningless, but leave it to you to draw a strawman and attack it. sadly, you have trouble defeating those strawmen you create, but I digress

Zimmerman was brutally attacked, fact
Martin was no sweet innocent teenager like he's being projected, fact
Martin does not look like the cute innocent kid from some old photos, fact
Martin was not shot because he wore a hoody, fact

the facts of this case are destroying your argument, and making your premature conviction look fucked up stupid. You see, you were relying on what Barry was saying, and that fucked you up again

FACT

 

[vitterd]

the middle finger is meaningless, but leave it to you to draw a strawman and attack it. sadly, you have trouble defeating those strawmen you create, but I digress

Zimmerman was brutally attacked, fact
Martin was no sweet innocent teenager like he's being projected, fact
Martin does not look like the cute innocent kid from some old photos, fact
Martin was not shot because he wore a hoody, fact

the facts of this case are destroying your argument, and making your premature conviction look fucked up stupid. You see, you were relying on what Barry was saying, and that fucked you up again

FACT

Complete lies. You cannot dispute anything that I said is a fact in this case. I've waited for weeks for one person to deny the facts as we know them. They can't. All they can do is post pics of the victim and scrapes of zimmerman. If his head was pounded into the pavement like they are claiming would it really produce those tiny little scrapes? I know common sense is not a strong suit of yours but cmon, give it a try.

Zimmerman followed this guy for doing nothing but walking thru the neighborhood after he was told not to do that....I woulda told him to get lost also....and when he continued harrassing me he woulda got his ass beat.

The guy is a wannabe cop and called 911 everytime the sun went down. If he would just mind his business instead of playin neighborhood cop he wouldn't have gotten his ass whipped by a kid and have to use a gun. Anyway you look at it, he killed an unarmed kid and is a guilty man.

I know you have to toe the repub line by blaming the victim because he's black but that does not change the facts.

 

[JohnnyMac]

I don't see how a very specific (unique, in fact) fact pattern like this Trayvon Martin shooting can get posters on this forum to take sides along (almost strictly) political lines.

 

[festeringZit]

I don't see how a very specific (unique, in fact) fact pattern like this Trayvon Martin shooting can get posters on this forum to take sides along (almost strictly) political lines.

Or, could it be that we're incensed that race-baiters like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama have used this incident to their personal advantage - and in doing so have thrown gasoline on a small fire, and turned it into a huge one?

 

[billhill999]

I don't see how a very specific (unique, in fact) fact pattern like this Trayvon Martin shooting can get posters on this forum to take sides along (almost strictly) political lines.

Both Zimmey and Martin are dumb as a box of rocks.

I'm not taking any side, but if you factor in the Florida state laws, the stand your ground law, the evidence which raises a ton of 'reasonable doubt', and makes Zimmy's self defense claim look pretty good, like the open wounds on Martins head for one, well any reasonable level headed person knows full damn well Zimmerman will not be convicted of second degree murder. Now, before you start arguing with me, google 'second degree murder'

The defense team has already made the prosecuting team look like a bunch of bumbling idiots in the bond/bail hearing.
The buffoons that is the prosecuting team should have charged Zimmy with manslaughter, where they would have had a 50/50 chance (at best) of conviction, but there is no way, no how, second degree murder will stick to ZImmy.

 

[JohnnyMac]

Or, could it be that we're incensed that race-baiters like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Barack Obama have used this incident to their personal advantage - and in doing so have thrown gasoline on a small fire, and turned it into a huge one?

I'll give you Sharpton and Jackson as attention-whoring hypocrites, but how is Obama a race-baiter?

 

[JohnnyMac]

Both Zimmey and Martin are dumb as a box of rocks.

I'm not taking any side, but if you factor in the Florida state laws, the stand your ground law, the evidence which raises a ton of 'reasonable doubt', and makes Zimmy's self defense claim look pretty good, like the open wounds on Martins head for one, well any reasonable level headed person knows full damn well Zimmerman will not be convicted of second degree murder. Now, before you start arguing with me, google 'second degree murder'

The defense team has already made the prosecuting team look like a bunch of bumbling idiots in the bond/bail hearing.
The buffoons that is the prosecuting team should have charged Zimmy with manslaughter, where they would have had a 50/50 chance (at best) of conviction, but there is no way, no how, second degree murder will stick to ZImmy.

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I was just wondering how the forum split right down party lines on a criminal law fact pattern. It just made me wonder if there is anything that all of the partisans here could ever independently evaluate.

 

[festeringZit]

I'll give you Sharpton and Jackson as attention-whoring hypocrites, but how is Obama a race-baiter?

Even more troublesome, without significant events to redirect the attention of voters, Obama would be forced to embrace a record of trillions in additional debt, high unemployment and ever-increasing prices for gas, food and virtually every staple of American life.
Obama needed a “hook” to get blacks back to the polls in record numbers, something other than promises of more “free” money wrenched from the racist, undeserving hands of “Whitey.



When he learned that Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the New Black Panthers were flocking to Florida to shed crocodile tears for a black teenager killed by the NON-black George Zimmerman, Barack Hussein Obama was the happiest usurper on earth. The opportunity he was so desperate to manufacture had been dropped right into his lap—the means of regenerating the black vote. The shooting of Trayvon Martin provided a tailor-made backdrop for the typically Democrat mantra of black vs white and Obama had no intention of letting it slip by, immediately joining his fellow race hustlers in portraying Martin as a poor black victim of cracker justice.
“If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” said Obama with a cynical shamelessness innate to all leftists. And while most Americans gagged at such an obvious attempt to manufacture political capital, blacks—especially the professional camera chasers—ate it up, delighted that the White House had provided approbation for virtually any manner of assault on whites nationwide.
But unfortunately for Obama, Florida Governor Rick Scott is a pretty savvy politician too. In his selection of special prosecutor Angela Corey, Scott replaced a local D.A. who was reportedly not going to file charges against George Zimmerman. The 2nd degree murder filing by Corey and concomitant arrest of Zimmerman took a red meat issue away from the Black Panthers, a thug President and the entire Democrat Party. It was a political tour de force which brought an end to contrived media outrage and any excuses blacks might invent to break the law “for Trayvon.” The shooting immediately became a dead issue and will remain so through the election.
Tragically, the same political necessity responsible for Zimmerman’s arrest will hold dominion at his trial. Corey brought a charge of 2nd degree murder in order that a jury might “mercifully” find Zimmerman guilty of the lesser crime of manslaughter. And he MUST be convicted and imprisoned regardless of the facts presented. Zimmerman’s plea of self-defense will mean nothing. Democrats AND Republicans knew this going in. In the end it will only be important to satiate the left, avert rioting and provide a reasonable degree of cover from conservative criticism of the “right.” Florida’s Stand Your Ground statute will likely be repealed as further tribute for extortionists like Jesse Jackson and the Black Panthers. And George Zimmerman will spend the next 10 years in a Florida prison, the victim of having defended himself during an election year.
Photo credit: ABC News

 

[Willie99]

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I was just wondering how the forum split right down party lines on a criminal law fact pattern. It just made me wonder if there is anything that all of the partisans here could ever independently evaluate.

actually, like every crime or tragedy, I simply prefer to let time do it's thing and let's learn some facts. Obama, who doesn't hide the fact that he needs a motivated black vote, tried to make this political as he joined another liberal Al Sharpton and proceeded to make this story much bigger than it would otherwise be. The lefties around here, like the OP for example, were quick to jump to the same conclusions as Obama and already have Zimmerman convicted (that's what this thread is all about)

I concur it's funny how almost everything seems to go along party lines, but I think it's the left that politicized this story.

 

[russ1945]

This is a must read:

REPORT: Zimmerman 'has black roots'...

 

[roadreeler57]

Zimmerman's Lawsuit Against Al Sharpton, NBC, and the Martin Family Attorneys
www.examiner.com In a twist not even the best fiction writers could have seen coming, the Trayvon Martin case, instigated by a couple of sheister attorneys looking to make money

 

[Willie99]

I don't necessarily disagree with you. I was just wondering how the forum split right down party lines on a criminal law fact pattern. It just made me wonder if there is anything that all of the partisans here could ever independently evaluate.

and remember the last national tragedy that gained political attention? The left tried to blame the Gabby Giffords shootings on republicans in general, some blamed Sarah Palin specifically.