Carney Calls HS Intern's Question 'Ridiculous'... But Was It Really?
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Jay Carney's Response Has Turned This 16-Year-Old Into an Internet Sensation
foxnewsinsider.comIt's not every day that a high school student gets to ask a question at a White House press briefing. Yesterday, 16-year-old Gabe Finger, an intern at The Daily Caller, asked WH Press Secretary Jay Carney whether President Obama plans to take any action after the death threats to George Zimmerman an...
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Jay Carney's Response Has Turned This 16-Year-Old Into an Internet Sensationfoxnewsinsider.comIt's not every day that a high school student gets to ask a question at a White House press briefing. Yesterday, 16-year-old Gabe Finger, an intern at The Daily Caller, asked WH Press Secretary Jay Carney whether President Obama plans to take any action after the death threats to George Zimmerman an...
MARTIN: Cause man dat nigga snitched on me
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round
but won da 2nd nd 3rd ...
FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose
Is this how people talk these days? Bae is short for babe? You can't type one extra fucking letter? Not saying the kid deserved to die, but these activists protesting this shit need to get active in the black community. Straighten these kids out. This country is going to shit.
FRIEND: Bae y you always fightinqq man, you got suspended?
MARTIN: Naw we thumped afta skool in a duckd off spot
FRIEND: Ohh, Well Damee
MARTIN: I lost da 1st round
but won da 2nd nd 3rd ...FRIEND: Ohhh So It Wass 3 Rounds? Damn well at least yu wonn lol but yuu needa stop fighting bae Forreal
MARTIN: Nay im not done with fool... he gone hav 2 see me again
FRIEND: Nooo... Stop, yuu waint gonn bee satisified till yuh suspended again, huh?
MARTIN: Naw but he aint breed nuff 4 me, only his nose
Is this how people talk these days? Bae is short for babe? You can't type one extra fucking letter? Not saying the kid deserved to die, but these activists protesting this shit need to get active in the black community. Straighten these kids out. This country is going to shit.
I haven't been following this case much, but my biggest bone to pick is with Zimmerman is himself "playing police officer".
Law enforcement are often degraded and disrespected, but if he was a Law enforcement officer, I suspect this situation would have been handled much differently, even if Trayvon didn't know he was dealing with an officer of the law. Most law enforcement officer's require some MMA training for a purpose. If you aren't highly skilled in MMA, and can't defend yourself, you have no business being a "town patrol officer", let alone pursuing or confronting an individual.
It doesn't mean Zimmerman should have been found guilty (according to current laws), but he is no doubt a fucking douchebag and an irresponsible citizen for appointing himself as a watchdog with no other means or training to defend himself besides a lethal weapon.
Law enforcement are often degraded and disrespected, but if he was a Law enforcement officer, I suspect this situation would have been handled much differently, even if Trayvon didn't know he was dealing with an officer of the law. Most law enforcement officer's require some MMA training for a purpose. If you aren't highly skilled in MMA, and can't defend yourself, you have no business being a "town patrol officer", let alone pursuing or confronting an individual.
It doesn't mean Zimmerman should have been found guilty (according to current laws), but he is no doubt a fucking douchebag and an irresponsible citizen for appointing himself as a watchdog with no other means or training to defend himself besides a lethal weapon.
04-12-2012, 07:11 PM
Ummmm zit....I'm not sure what alan dershowitz has to do with anything. I don't think he is reasonable or very sane. Then again...I never have any idea what you're talking about.
I love this "get all the facts" talk. Once you have certain facts I think it's easy to draw your own conclusions. I didn't have have every fact in the OJ Simpson case but didn't have a problem coming to the conclusion he is a murderer...regardless of the verdict....im pretty sure that dershowitz was an Oj is innocent guy....you still think he is sane zit?
Sometimes just use common sense.
Note This was one of the first posts Vit put on this thread - In an interview Dershowitz had this to say:
But is that really your job as a defense attorney? (Question during an interview)
That's my job: to put the state on trial, to make sure that the state behaves properly, that the police behave properly. One potentially guilty murderer going free will not destroy a society; a corrupt police force, a corrupt prosecution, a corrupt state, will.
I love this "get all the facts" talk. Once you have certain facts I think it's easy to draw your own conclusions. I didn't have have every fact in the OJ Simpson case but didn't have a problem coming to the conclusion he is a murderer...regardless of the verdict....im pretty sure that dershowitz was an Oj is innocent guy....you still think he is sane zit?
Sometimes just use common sense.
Note This was one of the first posts Vit put on this thread - In an interview Dershowitz had this to say:
But is that really your job as a defense attorney? (Question during an interview)
That's my job: to put the state on trial, to make sure that the state behaves properly, that the police behave properly. One potentially guilty murderer going free will not destroy a society; a corrupt police force, a corrupt prosecution, a corrupt state, will.
Some more Vit posts and retorts:
1. 04-12-2012, 07:59 PM
Originally Posted by guitarjosh
Actually Fox news didn't exist until 1996, about a year after OJ was acquitted. Are you thinking of Roger Cosack, a legal analyst on CNN?
No. Dershowitz was the media mouthpiece for the defense. I guess I was wrong about fox but he lived on that Geraldo Rivera show which covered the trial and I think that was on fox....which was covered non stop during the civil trial
1. 04-12-2012, 08:08 PM
Originally Posted by guitarjosh
Actually Fox news didn't exist until 1996, about a year after OJ was acquitted. Are you thinking of Roger Cosack, a legal analyst on CNN?
Geraldo Rivera show was on cnbc and considered the show of record for the OJ trial. Dershowitz was a very frequent guest on that show as he was the hired mouth for the defense. I did have the network incorrect which seems to only matter to one person...not sure why....doesnt change anything.
My comment: Again these were posted by Vit early on in this thread. He was dead wrong and can’t understand why anyone would care What a hypocrite.
04-12-2012, 10:18 PM
Besides the fact that Fox news is the anchor of blame for the far left liberals. And just like the Martin case, its the liberals that are screaming for justice without knowing one shred of facts. Vit put Fox in his post to throw mud toward the right, but it seemed to backfire. When all else fails, blame Fox News.
(Vit) I threw fox in because thats where I thought Geraldo's show was on. It had nothing to do with the fact that fox news is the right arm of the republican party.
Facts:
Zimmerman followed Martin
Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed man when he had no business following him.
Those are the facts and they cannot be disputed. Vit in an earlier post on this thread)
Yes the case was tried on the facts, the relevant facts that is, and the verdict was made based on those facts. Live with it.
Zimmerman followed Martin
Zimmerman shot and killed an unarmed man when he had no business following him.
Those are the facts and they cannot be disputed. Vit in an earlier post on this thread)
Yes the case was tried on the facts, the relevant facts that is, and the verdict was made based on those facts. Live with it.
Guess what dummy. I didn't agree with the OJ verdict...does that mean I don't get to have my own opinion on the case? (Directed to me from a prior post on this thread.)
We can all see that Vit's opinions and a jury's verdict are two different things. The question is was justice served. Yes the defendent got a trial and a judge and jury considered all the "facts" before reaching that verdict. The liberal press jumped on this bone early and often and the case was not worthy of the attention it got. It also got a lot of attention on this thread and that had everything to do with differences of opinion. Once the verdict came down it was time to move on. Now some naysayers say that Zimmerman staged a car accident to make himself look good. Maybe Vit should do the same because when all things are considered he is not looking good himself. He digs up old threads having to do with the election and refuses to move on. He lives in denial and that makes him troll all the more. Pathetic.
We can all see that Vit's opinions and a jury's verdict are two different things. The question is was justice served. Yes the defendent got a trial and a judge and jury considered all the "facts" before reaching that verdict. The liberal press jumped on this bone early and often and the case was not worthy of the attention it got. It also got a lot of attention on this thread and that had everything to do with differences of opinion. Once the verdict came down it was time to move on. Now some naysayers say that Zimmerman staged a car accident to make himself look good. Maybe Vit should do the same because when all things are considered he is not looking good himself. He digs up old threads having to do with the election and refuses to move on. He lives in denial and that makes him troll all the more. Pathetic.
Zimmerman's actions contributed to a sad loss of life, as did the victim's
I think the prosecution aimed too high, they might have won some sort of manslaughter conviction
My facts still remain just that...facts....and the jury instructions were such that a not guilty verdict was imminent. Weird that you are too dumb to see it....but seeing how badly you have fucked up the facts of this case...it isnt surprising.
Besides getting wrong when Dershowitz was on with Geraldo.....and what cable news network it was....everything i said was exactly what happened.
You can repost everything i posted....i was dead on accurate.
You are the guy that said GZ did nothing wrong but then said he deserves time....then said it was a typo....just a disgraceful job by you.
I never fucked up the facts in the case. How about your made up "facts". Z had no business following M, he was on nieghborhood watch duty dumbass. Yes I know the dispatcher who said advised him not to follow him. Those were not orders. But trying to blame Dershowitz and linking him to Fox news is inexcusable and shows how you try to pass off fiction for fact. Of course you had to admit you were wrong....why because the fact is that Fox was not even around during the OJ trial. "Dead Accurate". Zimmerman was innocent until proven guilty and your facts are true until they are exposed for what they really are.
As far as GZ doing time. It is a shame that you have to shoot for the moon to get a conviction. There should be some lesser laws than second degree murder and manslaughter was a reach in this case also. I can see some kind of alternate charge where you charge someone like Z with negligence using a firearm or the like. Everyone including me called this a tragedy but carrying a gun does include some responsibility. By Florida law Z got a pass based on what he was charged with because the prosecution went for the gusto. Maybe the state of Florida should pass some kind of law that involves some kind of probation period when a person carrying a gun shoots and/or kills an unarmed person. That is up to the state of Florida or any other state. You work with the laws you have and they could not even find grounds to prosecute him on the "Stand Your Ground" law. We are a country of laws and as it turns out Z acted with the boundaries of the law and was aquitted by a judge and jury. Should he have gotten off so easily, probably not but he does have to live with what he did for the rest of his life. Now was that a typo.
Dershowitz has been a fox news contrinutor for years and so has Geraldo...it was a very easy mistake and I admitted I made that mistake. Even so, it had nothing to do with anything and you are trying to make some point about it that makes zero sense. It shows your desperation.
Since when does a neighborhood watch guy have the right to follow and confront someone. That title holds no authority. The facts of the case I stated from day one hasn't changed...I was correct then and it still stands. You are lost in this case, you don't even understand why he was found not guilty and you don't understand the jury instructions and why they had to give a not guilty verdict. You just aren't bright enough to understand any of it. You think this is some declaration of innocence.
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[h=1]Race-baiters and hate-mongers attack over Zimmerman Second Amendment Fund[/h]
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Submitted by drieck on Tue, 07/23/2013 - 07:00.
by Dean Rieck
You know what they say: no good deed goes unpunished.
And, once again, that's the case for our effort to help George Zimmerman replace his firearm after the U.S. Department of Justice ordered the Sanford, Florida police department to NOT return his personal property.
We considered this a politically-motivated abuse of power. So we asked our supporters to chip in a little money so we could buy him a new firearm, plus holster and other items he may need. We called it the Zimmerman Second Amendment Fund.
But to our surprise, the story went national. While donations began poring in from all over the country, the race-baiters and hate-mongers started their attack. One of the charges leveled against us is that we're racists and are only helping Zimmerman because he's "white." Actually, he self-identifies as Hispanic, but the haters never let facts get in the way.
For those who don't bother doing their research before commenting (which includes pretty much everyone criticizing us), perhaps we should harken back a few years to the case of Damon Wells. As reported by the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Wells "... legally defended himself against two black teens who were on probation for aggravated robbery."
The attackers got convicted, but Mr. Wells couldn't get his gun back. We worked behind the scenes and, months later, authorities finally returned his firearm. Fast forward a few more months and Mr. Wells was riding as a passenger in a car that got pulled over. Police charged him with possession of an "unregistered" handgun even after the Ohio Supreme Court told the City of Cleveland that they could not enforce this sort of gun control law.
We sent our legal council to Cleveland Municipal Court to go to bat for Mr. Wells and have his charges dismissed. You can read the motion we filed here. And you can read about our lawsuit against the City of Cleveland here.
For the next three and a half years, Cleveland played legal games, but eventually we won, Cleveland lost, and Mr. Wells' charges are dismissed.
Oh, did we mention? Mr. Wells is black.
We're sure this won't mean anything to the race-baiters and hate-mongers, but we thought those with a more principled position might be interested in knowing.
Mr. Zimmerman is Hispanic. Mr. Wells is black. And none of that matters to us at all. They are Americans first. And we fight for the Second Amendment rights of anyone and everyone, especially for those who live in Ohio, but sometimes for those in other states when it's a special case.
And while it's not fun to be accused or racism, the hate-mongers have been spitting their most acidic comments at Mr. Zimmerman, a man who has been found not guilty and recentlyrescued a family from a truck accident. Here's just a little taste of that hate from those who claim to want peace and harmony.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/9034
[h=1]Race-baiters and hate-mongers attack over Zimmerman Second Amendment Fund[/h]
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Submitted by drieck on Tue, 07/23/2013 - 07:00.
by Dean Rieck
You know what they say: no good deed goes unpunished.
And, once again, that's the case for our effort to help George Zimmerman replace his firearm after the U.S. Department of Justice ordered the Sanford, Florida police department to NOT return his personal property.
We considered this a politically-motivated abuse of power. So we asked our supporters to chip in a little money so we could buy him a new firearm, plus holster and other items he may need. We called it the Zimmerman Second Amendment Fund.
But to our surprise, the story went national. While donations began poring in from all over the country, the race-baiters and hate-mongers started their attack. One of the charges leveled against us is that we're racists and are only helping Zimmerman because he's "white." Actually, he self-identifies as Hispanic, but the haters never let facts get in the way.
For those who don't bother doing their research before commenting (which includes pretty much everyone criticizing us), perhaps we should harken back a few years to the case of Damon Wells. As reported by the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Wells "... legally defended himself against two black teens who were on probation for aggravated robbery."
The attackers got convicted, but Mr. Wells couldn't get his gun back. We worked behind the scenes and, months later, authorities finally returned his firearm. Fast forward a few more months and Mr. Wells was riding as a passenger in a car that got pulled over. Police charged him with possession of an "unregistered" handgun even after the Ohio Supreme Court told the City of Cleveland that they could not enforce this sort of gun control law.
We sent our legal council to Cleveland Municipal Court to go to bat for Mr. Wells and have his charges dismissed. You can read the motion we filed here. And you can read about our lawsuit against the City of Cleveland here.
For the next three and a half years, Cleveland played legal games, but eventually we won, Cleveland lost, and Mr. Wells' charges are dismissed.
Oh, did we mention? Mr. Wells is black.
We're sure this won't mean anything to the race-baiters and hate-mongers, but we thought those with a more principled position might be interested in knowing.
Mr. Zimmerman is Hispanic. Mr. Wells is black. And none of that matters to us at all. They are Americans first. And we fight for the Second Amendment rights of anyone and everyone, especially for those who live in Ohio, but sometimes for those in other states when it's a special case.
And while it's not fun to be accused or racism, the hate-mongers have been spitting their most acidic comments at Mr. Zimmerman, a man who has been found not guilty and recentlyrescued a family from a truck accident. Here's just a little taste of that hate from those who claim to want peace and harmony.
http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/9034
