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I really didn't do much. Russ made himself look like an idiot all by himself.


You guys are avoiding the real issues. I said from the get go that all the hoopla was just that and that the only thing that mattered was the verdict. You guys wanted a conviction for all the wrong reasons. I said from the get go I would go with the decision the jury made one way or the other. You guys are now showing your asses because it did not go your way. Had Z gotten manslaughter that is the way it would have been, that is how our system works. Justice is not what you as an individual think it should be, it is what it is. I suppose you guys support all the rioting and destruction of private property also. Losers.
 

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in the mean time, libtard nation is imploding before our very eyes as they show the world their ignorance, stupidity, hatred, hypocrisy and complete lack of class all across their demographics.

once again proving their problems are rooted in genetics. they just can't hide the fact that they're idiots

the state did not prove their case, end of story (at least it should be)
 

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You guys are avoiding the real issues. I said from the get go that all the hoopla was just that and that the only thing that mattered was the verdict. You guys wanted a conviction for all the wrong reasons. I said from the get go I would go with the decision the jury made one way or the other. You guys are now showing your asses because it did not go your way. Had Z gotten manslaughter that is the way it would have been, that is how our system works. Justice is not what you as an individual think it should be, it is what it is. I suppose you guys support all the rioting and destruction of private property also. Losers.

What the fuck are you talking about? This "accept the verdict" thing you keep repeating is another parrot talking point. Accepting the verdict is what everyone has to do but doesn't mean everyone must agree with it. Seriously, get a clue and your own mind for once. Unfortunately our sysem of justice gets it wrong sometime. Just like Oj and casey anthony....now GZ.
 

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Apparently there are select members of the RX forum that know more about what happened the night an innocent man almost died, than the judge, prosecutors, jury and attorneys did in the GZ trial.

Wish I had this ability.
 

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Apparently there are select members of the RX forum that know more about what happened the night an innocent man almost died, than the judge, prosecutors, jury and attorneys did in the GZ trial.

Wish I had this ability.

Yeah...we never have a stupid jury in any case. Cmon gas, you need to do better than this.

Did you really describe GZ as an innocent man who almost died? Lmao. Even his mother wouldn't describe him like that.
 

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Apparently there are select members of the RX forum that know more about what happened the night an innocent man almost died, than the judge, prosecutors, jury and attorneys did in the GZ trial.

Wish I had this ability.

Only a libtard troll can try to breathe life into a dead horse. He says he accepts the verdict and goes on and one. What a joke. Of course it beats the hell out of talking about real issues like the Obama Administration scandals and Benghazi. I think that is called deflection lol. He would rather kick a dead horse than talk about that stuff. Did he just call the jury stupid. Why because they don't think like him. Why because they actually had to deal with it instead of just cheap talk about it. The utlimate troll is now fully exposed. And Gas, you can't do any better, he just doesn't get it and he never will.
 
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You guys are avoiding the real issues. I said from the get go that all the hoopla was just that and that the only thing that mattered was the verdict. You guys wanted a conviction for all the wrong reasons. I said from the get go I would go with the decision the jury made one way or the other. You guys are now showing your asses because it did not go your way. Had Z gotten manslaughter that is the way it would have been, that is how our system works. Justice is not what you as an individual think it should be, it is what it is. I suppose you guys support all the rioting and destruction of private property also. Losers.
I challenge you to find anywhere on here where I said " I wanted a conviction?" I have been neutral from the beginning in this and never said anything about wanting him convicted. I do think Zimmerman did many wrong things that night and very easily could have prevented this from happening. Unlike you who thinks he did everything right. I have never changed my view on this u like you who can't make up his mind whether Zimmerman should have done time or not. Or whether it was a retraction or typo. I'd rather show my ass than look like a fool like you have lately.
 

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First of all, NO ONE has been neutral, so cut the caca. I have been to court many times when I worked for various law enforcement agencies and I can tell you that this case was an absolute joke. There is NO EVIDENCE to prove that Zimmerman did anything other than what he said he did. No eye witness. Nothing. There was plenty of proof that what Zimmerman said was the truth. The jury was also not allowed to hear about Martin's past, which included pot smoking (found in his blood at autopsy) gun dealing, and fighting. Had the judge properly ruled on those issues, it would have taken the jury about 4 hours to find Zimmerman NOT GUILTY. I challenge ANYONE in here to show me evidence that Zimmerman acted intentionally.

Now as far as you idiot Liberals go, your days are numbered. Your "Boy" in the White House is just about finished. He is nothing more than an Islamic racist. His buddy's in Egypt were overthrown. The Israeli PM told him that Isreal will take care of Iran, no matter what Obama says. Your B.S. Civil Rights movement will lead to a more racially divided nation. Blacks in cities like Chicago kill each other in alarmingly large numbers. There is no doubt that Blacks have more of this type of "Killer" mentality than any other race. It is time for you Liberals to come up with solutions to these problems that does NOT take money away from hard working Americans and give it to the crack heads and professional welfare mama's that infest our nation.
 

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I challenge you to find anywhere on here where I said " I wanted a conviction?" I have been neutral from the beginning in this and never said anything about wanting him convicted. I do think Zimmerman did many wrong things that night and very easily could have prevented this from happening. Unlike you who thinks he did everything right. I have never changed my view on this u like you who can't make up his mind whether Zimmerman should have done time or not. Or whether it was a retraction or typo. I'd rather show my ass than look like a fool like you have lately.

Neutral? As far as the retraction/typo thing goes it is what it is. I type pretty fast and usually don't proof read. I can argue it from either side. Could - possibility existed that the jury could find him guilty of something. Should - he was the adult in the equation in some ways that should have been considered. However Florida law demands all or nothing verdicts. Maybe if there was a bailout verdict available such as 5 years probation even though found not guilty then that could have applied. The prosecution went for the gusto and fell flat because they had no case according to Florida law. I think the police chief who was fired should be reinstated in light of the way the trial went. He was right in discouraging them from bringing charges and paid a price. That was political plain and simple. You say I looked like an idiot but I had it right from the beginning and never waivered that it was in fact up to a judge and jury and that race was not going to be a consideration one way or the other. Also where did I say Z did everything right. If I said should it would be obvious that I did not feel that way. Duh
 

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Only a libtard troll can try to breathe life into a dead horse. He says he accepts the verdict and goes on and one. What a joke. Of course it beats the hell out of talking about real issues like the Obama Administration scandals and Benghazi. I think that is called deflection lol. He would rather kick a dead horse than talk about that stuff. Did he just call the jury stupid. Why because they don't think like him. Why because they actually had to deal with it instead of just cheap talk about it. The utlimate troll is now fully exposed. And Gas, you can't do any better, he just doesn't get it and he never will.

You are beyond help and the biggest troll...tied with fest zit. You are still on the accept the verdict thing. Do you understand that most people are not robot sheep like you? They have their own opinions on things. So while we all have to swallow an unjust verdict, we can all still have an opinion on it. You need to go back to cut and paste.

And you still don't know what it is.
 

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Neutral? As far as the retraction/typo thing goes it is what it is. I type pretty fast and usually don't proof read. I can argue it from either side. Could - possibility existed that the jury could find him guilty of something. Should - he was the adult in the equation in some ways that should have been considered. However Florida law demands all or nothing verdicts. Maybe if there was a bailout verdict available such as 5 years probation even though found not guilty then that could have applied. The prosecution went for the gusto and fell flat because they had no case according to Florida law. I think the police chief who was fired should be reinstated in light of the way the trial went. He was right in discouraging them from bringing charges and paid a price. That was political plain and simple. You say I looked like an idiot but I had it right from the beginning and never waivered that it was in fact up to a judge and jury and that race was not going to be a consideration one way or the other. Also where did I say Z did everything right. If I said should it would be obvious that I did not feel that way. Duh

Race cannot be considered by the jury. It was a factor in the killing but it didn't matter if the jury thought GZ was or not. Why can't you understand simple things? The jury didn't find him not guilty of profiling. Even if they think he profiled him they can still find him not guilty. Man you are one stupid mother fucker.
 

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I will put my grades from grad school up against yours anytime. lol

chew on this troll ( and lame stream media fan):

As you will see below, by hook and crook, the mainstream media did everything in its still-potent power to not only push for the prosecution of Mr. Zimmerman (the police originally chose not to charge him) but also to gin up racial tensions where none needed to exist.
It all started with the anchor of a major television network (Al Sharpton) inserting himself in the story to spread division and hate; it continued straight through to the closing days of the trial when another major news network, desperate to keep a fabricated racial narrative alive, propagated the portrayal of Zimmerman as part of a racial group that doesn't exist -- the "white Hispanic."
In-between, there has been an astonishing amount of malicious fraud and lies, all in an effort to serve a president, stir racial hatred, and influence the justice system.


February 26, 2012 - George Zimmerman Shoots and Kills Trayvon Martin
Zimmerman claims self-defense. After an investigation, the police agree and decide not to press charges.

March 8, 2012 - The AP Falsely Describes Zimmerman as "White"
The story of the grieving parents of Trayvon Martin demanding Zimmerman be arrested first achieves national attention on March 8 when CBS This Morning runs a report.
Later that same day, the Associated Press throws the first log on the racial fire by inaccurately describing Zimmerman as white.
March 13, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Uses MSNBC Platform to Stoke Phony Racial Narrative
Breitbart editor-in-chief Joel Pollak:
Sharpton devoted a portion of his program on MSNBC, PoliticsNation, to the Trayvon Martin case. He interviewed Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump, who reiterated the accusation that Zimmerman was “white”: “We think Trayvon Martin didn’t know who the heck this white man was who approached him before he got killed.”
Earlier that same day, Sharpton's National Action Network released a statement calling for...
...a “complete and thorough investigation” into Martin’s death. He added: “[W]e are told that racial language was used when the young man reported his suspicions to police[.]”
The story about Zimmerman's use of racial language was false.
March 13, 2012 - ABC News Reporter Claims Trayvon Shot Because "He Was Black"
About ten days before Al Sharpton and President Obama would launch the Zimmerman story into the stratosphere, Matt Gutman, an ABC News correspondent based in Miami, Florida, was already (and without a shred of evidence) laying the track for a racial narrative.
Gutman covered the case for the network, and his Twitter feed at the time was full of falsehoods, innuendo, and irresponsible speculation. In one tweet, Gutman came right out and claimed Trayvon was shot "bc [because] he was black."
Gutman would also recklessly accuse Zimmerman of "stalking" and shooting down Trayvon.


March 19, 2012 - CBS News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Is White
A small detail that the Obama administration and the media apparently missed was that the white versus black racial narrative they were preparing to invest so much into was missing just one thing: a white person.
Proof of this is that CBS News falsely claimed Zimmerman was white about a week before the story exploded.
In their venomous zeal, the media and Democrats likely assumed that someone with the last name Zimmerman had to be white. But they were wrong, as Zimmerman is Hispanic.
Never ones to back off a good narrative, rather than use this revelation to tamp down tensions or correct their reporting, the media simply made up out of whole cloth a new racial category: the "white Hispanic."

March 22, 2012 - Zimmerman Described as a "White Hispanic" by The New York Times
Just in the nick of time, before the story was engineered to explode the very next day with the Sharpton rally, The New York Times put its stamp of approval on the term "white Hispanic."


March 21, 2012 - CNN Falsely Accuses Zimmerman of Saying "F**king Coon"
Knowing full well the phony racial storm brewing around the Zimmerman case was about to have gasoline thrown on it the next day, CNN went to extraordinary lengths to claim Zimmerman had uttered the racial slur "coon" when he had not.
This has to be watched to be believed.
CNN wouldn't officially retract their defamation until April 5th, long after it was too late.

March 22, 2012 - NBC's Al Sharpton Goes to Florida
Though the police had investigated the shooting and saw no reason to charge George Zimmerman, in March of 2012, President Obama's reelection chances looked dim. He would need the crucial swing state of Florida to win another four years, and nothing brings out the Democrat vote like a good old racial bonfire.
With the help of thousands of dollars from Obama's Justice Department, it was then that Rev. Al Sharpton (anchor of MSNBC's Politics Nation) held his incendiary rally:
At the protest, Sharpton was flanked by Martin's parents. "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," he said. "Trayvon could have been any one of us."
He continued:
"We are tired of going to jail for nothing and others going home for something. Zimmerman should have been arrested that night ... you cannot defend yourself against a pack of Skittles and iced tea. Don't talk to us like we're stupid! Don't talk to us like we're ignorant! We love our children like you love yours. Lock him up!"
Sharpton said that he would stay on the case.
"We cannot allow a legal precedent to be established in this city that tells us it is legal for a man to kill us, tell any story he wants, and walks out with the murder weapon," he said.


March 23, 2012 - President Obama Repeats Sharpton's Talking Point
The day after Sharpton held his rally and said, "Trayvon could have been any one of our sons," President Obama made huge news when he stepped before the cameras, demanded action in the Zimmerman case, and famously said, "If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon."
In just two days, a network news anchor and an American president had blasted the Zimmerman case into the nation's top story and did so based on a racial narrative without a shred of evidence to support it. Almost every other major news outlet would now commit every journalistic sin imaginable to fabricate evidence.

March 24, 2012 - Reuters Describes Zimmerman as a "White Hispanic"
To keep the white versus black narrative alive, Reuters jumps on the ridiculous "white Hispanic" bandwagon.
Many others would follow.


March 27, 2012 - NBC News Edits 911 Audio to Make Zimmerman Look Racist
On the storied Today Show, NBC News told America Zimmerman said this on the 911 call:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. He looks black.
When the truth is that the unedited audio actually went like this:
Zimmerman: This guy looks like he’s up to no good. Or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around, looking about.
Dispatcher: OK, and this guy — is he black, white or Hispanic?
Zimmerman: He looks black.
After the fraudulent editing was discovered by the New Media (first by Breitbart News), former NBC News president Steve Capus would claim that the edit was "a mistake and not a deliberate act to misrepresent the phone call."
Eventually, several NBC producers would be fired (without being named), and Zimmerman would file a lawsuit against NBC; it remains unresolved.

March 28, 2012 - ABC News Falsely Claims Zimmerman Wasn't Injured Night of Shooting
The day after NBC News released its falsified 911 bombshell, ABC News released a phony, hyped-up story of its own. Using grainy surveillance video of Zimmerman at the police station on the night of the shooting, ABC News claimed, "A police surveillance video taken the night that Trayvon Martin was shot dead shows no blood or bruises on George Zimmerman."
Obviously, if true, this would go a long way towards proving Zimmerman was not in fear of his life the night of the shooting and had lied about being beaten up.
The only problem is that the ABC News story was not true -- not even close. The network didn't bother to enhance the video before breaking the news. Had they, Zimmerman's bloody head would have been quite apparent.
It would take four days for ABC to retract its falsehood.
March 28, 2012 - Boston Globe Falsely Describes Zimmerman as White
By late March it was widely known that George Zimmerman was Hispanic. This did not stop the Boston Globe from using its pages to describe him as "a white neighborhood watch captain."
This error has never been corrected.


March 29, 2012 - NBC's Chris Matthews Contradicts Guest to Claim Zimmerman Not Injured
By the next day, ABC's false story about Zimmerman not being injured had already gone viral. However, some were already doing the job ABC apparently didn't want to do: enhancing the video. A guest on MSNBC's Hardball told the show's host, Chris Matthews, that his enhancement did show bruises on the back of Zimmerman's head. MSNBC even broadcast the enhancement, which clearly showed cuts and bruising.
Regardless, during the same show, Matthews stridently claimed:
George Zimmerman says he shot Trayvon Martin after Trayvon broke his nose and repeatedly slammed the back of his head into a concrete sidewalk, but newly released video tape of Zimmerman arriving at the police station--we're looking at it there--appears to show no evidence of a broken nose or obvious wounds to the back of Zimmerman's head.

Late March, 2012 - Zimmerman's "Black Friend" Vilified by Media
Even though Zimmerman is Hispanic and there was no evidence of any racial motivation behind his actions, the media's racial-hysteria was, at this point, in full bloom. To try and tamp things down, Joe Oliver, a black reporter who had worked with CNN and an Orlando television station, started doing the national media interview rounds to speak on behalf of his friend, George Zimmerman.
The counterattack in the media (CNN, New York Times, and MSNBC, among others) was exceptionally vicious, personal, and effective.
Oliver went away.

April 1, 2012 - The New York Times Maliciously Edits Zimmerman's 911 Call
Although the NBC News malicious edit of Zimmerman's 911 call broadcast on the Today Show had already been loudly and publicly debunked, days later the New York Times did the same thing on its front page.
By rearranging the words of the call, the Times falsely made it look as though Zimmerman had profiled Trayvon as black:
Here is the 911 call transcript:
ZIMMERMAN: This guy looks like he's up to no good, or he's on drugs or something. It's raining and he's just walking around, looking about.
911 DISPATCHER: Okay. And this guy, is he white, black, or Hispanic?
ZIMMERMAN: He looks black.
And here is what the Times reported:
“Hey, we’ve had some break-ins in my neighborhood,” Mr. Zimmerman said to start the conversation with the dispatcher. “And there’s a real suspicious guy.”
This guy seemed to be up to no good; like he was on drugs or something; in a gray hoodie. Asked to describe him further, he said, “He looks black.”
The print edition of the story was even worse than the online edition.

April 9, 2012 - PBS Anchor Gwen Ifill Describes Zimmerman as "White"
Desperate to keep a non-existent racial narrative alive, during a broadcast of the PBS Newshour Gwen Ifill falsely stated:
Martin, who was black, was on his way to a convenience store in a mostly white gated community when George Zimmerman, who is white, shot and killed him after a disputed altercation.
Note Ifill's reporting of Zimmerman's gated community. The condos in Zimmerman's neighborhood sell for about $120,000.

April 11, 2012 - George Zimmerman Is Arrested, Charged with Second Degree Murder


After the arrest, and as the trial date neared the following year, NBC would allow Al Sharpton to turn his primetime MSNBC show into a platform dedicated to convicting Zimmerman.
CNN would continue to refer to Zimmerman as a "white Hispanic" and broadcast all of Zimmerman's personal information, including his social security number, address, and telephone number.
 

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An unarmed teen was shot and killed. At some point an investigation and arrest does tend to happen after that.
 
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Neutral? As far as the retraction/typo thing goes it is what it is. I type pretty fast and usually don't proof read. I can argue it from either side. Could - possibility existed that the jury could find him guilty of something. Should - he was the adult in the equation in some ways that should have been considered. However Florida law demands all or nothing verdicts. Maybe if there was a bailout verdict available such as 5 years probation even though found not guilty then that could have applied. The prosecution went for the gusto and fell flat because they had no case according to Florida law. I think the police chief who was fired should be reinstated in light of the way the trial went. He was right in discouraging them from bringing charges and paid a price. That was political plain and simple. You say I looked like an idiot but I had it right from the beginning and never waivered that it was in fact up to a judge and jury and that race was not going to be a consideration one way or the other. Also where did I say Z did everything right. If I said should it would be obvious that I did not feel that way. Duh
Saying he did everything right might not have been your exact words but you did at one point say something to the affect that Zimmerman was right and Martin was wrong for being where they were which is ridiculous. They both had a right to be where they were . And you still have not shown where I said I wanted a conviction. Where did I ever come close to saying that? And you can deflect all you want about how what you said was a typo but that's BS since you said it more than once that z should do time. Give it up Russ, and go back to cut/paste .
 

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Just stay out of those types of neighborhoods and you don't have to worry for your life.

Small Daddy, for perhaps the first time ever, showed some common sense. You, on the other hand, show yourself to be the same brain dead cocksucker you've always been. It's not some "type(s) of neighborhood," you brainless scumbag, it was his father's home.:bigfinger:Countdown^^:):carto1710:fckmad::madasshol
 

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Saying he did everything right might not have been your exact words but you did at one point say something to the affect that Zimmerman was right and Martin was wrong for being where they were which is ridiculous. They both had a right to be where they were . And you still have not shown where I said I wanted a conviction. Where did I ever come close to saying that? And you can deflect all you want about how what you said was a typo but that's BS since you said it more than once that z should do time. Give it up Russ, and go back to cut/paste .

I am sorry for one thing and that was lumping you with Vit for a period of time. I said you called him out on race. Ok so Z should have done time, #3, BFD. Like everything everyone else said on this thread it is just chatter. All that matters is the verdict. Are you saying you did not want a conviction. You tell me. As far as cut and paste goes what do you think of the one I just posted. What is your opinion of the job the lame stream media did on this incident. Just for the record.
 
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I am sorry for one thing and that was lumping you with Vit for a period of time. I said you called him out on race. Ok so Z should have done time, #3, BFD. Like everything everyone else said on this thread it is just chatter. All that matters is the verdict. Are you saying you did not want a conviction. You tell me. As far as cut and paste goes what do you think of the one I just posted. What is your opinion of the job the lame stream media did on this incident. Just for the record.
I've said all along that it made no difference what the verdict was because either way Zimmermans life was going to be hell either way. Both obviously made mistakes that night and both are paying for it. Martin is dead and Zimmerman will be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life. Russ, I don't read your cut/paste BS so I have no comment on it. The media blows everything out of proportion and has for many many years. So how they handled this case is no surprise.
 

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RACHEL JEANTEL, FRIEND OF TRAYVON: Well, the jury, they see their facts. My thoughts of the jury, they old, that's old school people. We in a new school, our generation, my generation. So --

PIERS MORGAN: Let's talk about 'creepy ass cracka.' People have said that that is a phrase used by black people, cracka, to describe a white person. Is that true?

JEANTEL: No! Like I said --

MORGAN: How do you spell it, first of all?

JEANTEL: Cracka.

MORGAN: There's no 'e-r,' right?

JEANTEL: No, it's an 'a' at the end.

MORGAN: C-r-a-c-k-a.

JEANTEL: Yeah. And that's a person who act like they're a police [officer], who, like a security guard who acting like -- that's what I said to them. Trayvon said creepy ass cracka.

MORGAN: It means he thought it was a police or a security guard?

JEANTEL: Yeah, he acting like the police. And then he keep telling me that the man is still watching him. So, if it was a security guard or a policeman, they would come up to Trayvon and say, 'Do you have a problem? Do you need help?' You know, like normal people.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...people_we_in_a_new_school_our_generation.html

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is there any doubt this girl is a liar now?

cracka means "he's acting like police or security", seriously?

it just doesn't stop
 

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I've said all along that it made no difference what the verdict was because either way Zimmermans life was going to be hell either way. Both obviously made mistakes that night and both are paying for it. Martin is dead and Zimmerman will be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life. Russ, I don't read your cut/paste BS so I have no comment on it. The media blows everything out of proportion and has for many many years. So how they handled this case is no surprise.

I will judge those comments on what you did not say rather on what you did say. You did not say that the lame stream media blew this situation out of proportion. It was an isolated incident and was not racial. They stuck to their story and even fanned the fire looking for public unrest after the conclusion of the trial. The fact that you did not read this particular cut and paste shows you are very close minded. You think you are right and nothing or no one is going to convince you other wise. Civil action will be taken by Z concerning what that article deals with. If you don't think it is worth reading and remarking about then I think we have finally exposed you for what you really are.
 

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Willie I remember when I had to google "cracker" to find out what it referred to. That was about a year or so ago. I had never heard it used. I was really surprised that todays kids use that term but even more surprised to learn that most of them do not know the true reference. Using that term is racial in every since of the word and and is intended to be a derogatory slur. Intent is the key. I wonder how Z would have reacted had he known that M referred to him as a cracker.
 

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