Cared about his community? I dont see it that way. Just a guy trying to play cop......he is doing the following...he is the starter of this. Possible burglar? So anyone walking down the street is a possible burglar? I find this very odd.
A fight starts because zimmerman is following him....so martin deserves to die? Evidence is showing the injuries are minor and he put the gun up against him when he shot him.....
1) Playing cop or whatever you want to call it. He was the head of the watch program and his job was to observe and report what he saw as suspicious. His suspicious and yours are obviously different.
2) Walking down the street? You are distorting the facts. He was wearing a dark hoodie standing in the yard of a neighbor. It was a kid not familiar to GZ. To him, he may have thought he was a burglar.
3) No, a fight starts because TM physically attacked him. That's how the physical fight started. He was the aggressor and you can't deny it. If the defense can show GZ felt his life was in danger, case closed.
I will admit that I have not followed the trial at all, but will you show me the testimony that proves this? I was under the assumption that no one actually saw the fight start which is one reason why Zimmerman will probably be found innocent since no one actually knows who was in fact the aggressor and who actually started the fight. I have seen you say this many times, so please show me the testimony that backs this up. I did nt realize there was a witness that actually saw the fight start.
1) Playing cop or whatever you want to call it. He was the head of the watch program and his job was to observe and report what he saw as suspicious. His suspicious and yours are obviously different.
2) Walking down the street? You are distorting the facts. He was wearing a dark hoodie standing in the yard of a neighbor. It was a kid not familiar to GZ. To him, he may have thought he was a burglar.
3) No, a fight starts because TM physically attacked him. That's how the physical fight started. He was the aggressor and you can't deny it. If the defense can show GZ felt his life was in danger, case closed.
Do you just make this shit up out of thin air? Nowhere does anyone say Martin charged zimmerman and physically attacked him first. You say a lot of stuff happened that didn't. Start checking your facts. We all have opinions on what we think may have happened but that doesn't make them facts. The only facts we know are zimmerman followed him, a fight happened and he killed martin.
The clear evidence shows what happened and who attacked who that night.
Let me ask you this Vit. In your honest opinion, do you think GZ walked up, confronted TM and attacked a nice young defenseless kid? Do you think GZ physically attacked TM first?
Just would like to honestly hear your opinion.
The clear evidence shows what happened and who attacked who that night.
Let me ask you this Vit. In your honest opinion, do you think GZ walked up, confronted TM and attacked a nice young defenseless kid? Do you think GZ physically attacked TM first?
Just would like to honestly hear your opinion.
I mean Wabash you are right that nobody saw the altercation start. That is a fact. One can only assume however that this is the way it happened because of the following:
1) TM says to GZ "Do you have a problem."
2) GZ had multiple injuries including a broken nose. One usually doesn't have a broken nose if they are the aggressor IMO.
3) TM had zero injuries but marks on his knuckles from what looks like an attack with his hands of some sort.
4) A witness verifies when he went outside TM was straddled on top of GZ punching him in the head.
Now, again, nobody saw the fight start and that is a fact but one can deduce when you put all of this together what happened out there in the courtyard.
My opinion is martin probably hit first...however if someone was following me like zimmerman was...I may have punched him also. Listen to the 911 tape again...zimmerman was in pursuit of martin. Do you think that maybe martin felt threatened by zimmerman and hit him...that's also reasonable. Does he deserve to die for that? Zimmerman is responsible for this...is just a matter of what degree. The guy has clearly lied several timess about what happened.
TM may have been the aggressor but I have a hard time believing he just punched the guy because he was following him
I don't at all. Not a tough time believing it for a second.
He said "hey, why you following me? Do you have a problem?"
GZ says "I have no problem at all."
TM says "well you do now."
TM attacks him. That is the scenario.
That is the scenario? You write that as though you were there. I would say the odds are in favor of GZ making a comment that pissed TM off... if the sportsbook had a line on this it would be...
GZ makes comment: -800
TM attacks for no reason: +600