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So its age now that determines how tough someone is.....interesting.

Who said anything about being "tough"? Im speaking for myself. I would be goddamned before i let some punk ass 17 year old kid slap me up, then use a gun. Period.
 

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Who said anything about being "tough"? Im speaking for myself. I would be goddamned before i let some punk ass 17 year old kid slap me up, then use a gun. Period.

How do you know this? How do you really know how you would act in a situation like this. What kind of 'hood do you live in? White? Mixed? Do you feel danger when you go to the store, or go out to eat locally? My guess is no. In that 'hood maybe the people there do feel danger with their day to day activities.
You Dont know that 'hood. Do you CC? If you did CC and you were in a high crime 'hood and that was something most did to CC, and you were getting you head banged against the ground by a bigger tougher guy, your first instinct would be what? Would you let him possibly kill or permanently maim you? You dont know becasue you werent there, in that situation. my instict would to be to survive, and if that meant to pull agun if I had one legally, id do it. You fucking A right Id do it. Him or me, PERIOD!
Some of you guys have never been in a fight in your life, but you talk so tough, like you would act different in that situation. If you grow up tough, I know you would act completely different when faced with a potential life and death situation, if you grew up in tough area. You would have too, to survive!
 

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Here's another little something else to ponder.

What if Martin went for the gun? Are you gonna take the chance that he just wants to throw it in the bushes and keep the fight to fisticuffs? Or are you thinking that if he gets that gun he may use it on me?

It's easy to sit back and talk. It ain't the same when the adrenalin is pumping and you feel that your life is on the line NOW with no aid in sight.
 

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Who said anything about being "tough"? Im speaking for myself. I would be goddamned before i let some punk ass 17 year old kid slap me up, then use a gun. Period.

I assume when the words like pussy and coward are used, along with the ages as a foundation of your argument, using the word "tough" is well within means. I assume also that there is no 17 year old in this world that couldn't work you over. Lastly, it is safe to assume that if a 17 year old kid was working you over (which according to you is impossible, but let's act as if it was) and as he is pounding your head he is telling you he is going to kill you....at that time you realize you have a gun, you would just take the beating. If someone is on top of me, whaling away, and I feel my life is threatened (which is different than just getting your ass beat)....you better believe I am slinging lead.
 

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There used to a be a time where disputes and altercations were solved 90% of the time by fists. Hell, i grew up in a time like that. But now? Shit.

If some 17 year old is putting his fists on you and you're 28 years old and you have to pull out a gun to stop him, you sir are a fucking coward and a pussy. Case in point with your pussy whipped , candy ass rebuttal.
Oh my. I'd better back off. Little Fletchy is in town. :):) What's the matter tough guy? Strike a nerve, did I? Your comment was stupid. Sit back and soak it in. Unless of course you'd like to swear at me some more. :103631605 Go ahead Fletchy, have at it.
 

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I assume when the words like pussy and coward are used, along with the ages as a foundation of your argument, using the word "tough" is well within means. I assume also that there is no 17 year old in this world that couldn't work you over. Lastly, it is safe to assume that if a 17 year old kid was working you over (which according to you is impossible, but let's act as if it was) and as he is pounding your head he is telling you he is going to kill you....at that time you realize you have a gun, you would just take the beating. If someone is on top of me, whaling away, and I feel my life is threatened (which is different than just getting your ass beat)....you better believe I am slinging lead.
Well of course there isn't. Now that we all know how tough Fletch is, I for one am damn glad I'm sitting here behind my key board out of his reach.
 

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Well of course there isn't. Now that we all know how tough Fletch is, I for one am damn glad I'm sitting here behind my key board out of his reach.

If he starts tossing out section, row, and seat information to his closest pro franchise, you better be scared.....be very scared. Code for the real deal, just lay low and let it pass....
 

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Here's another little something else to ponder.

What if Martin went for the gun? Are you gonna take the chance that he just wants to throw it in the bushes and keep the fight to fisticuffs? Or are you thinking that if he gets that gun he may use it on me?

It's easy to sit back and talk. It ain't the same when the adrenalin is pumping and you feel that your life is on the line NOW with no aid in sight.

Martin going for a concealed weapon? lmfao classic!
 

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Oh my. I'd better back off. Little Fletchy is in town. :):) What's the matter tough guy? Strike a nerve, did I? Your comment was stupid. Sit back and soak it in. Unless of course you'd like to swear at me some more. :103631605 Go ahead Fletchy, have at it.

I think its humerous a grown man walking up on a kid after following him and then gets his ass whipped. But then to pull out a gun??? Thats the definition of a coward. If you follow someone and get your ass whipped, it kinda goes with the territory.
 

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How do you know this? How do you really know how you would act in a situation like this. What kind of 'hood do you live in? White? Mixed? Do you feel danger when you go to the store, or go out to eat locally? My guess is no. In that 'hood maybe the people there do feel danger with their day to day activities.
You Dont know that 'hood. Do you CC? If you did CC and you were in a high crime 'hood and that was something most did to CC, and you were getting you head banged against the ground by a bigger tougher guy, your first instinct would be what? Would you let him possibly kill or permanently maim you? You dont know becasue you werent there, in that situation. my instict would to be to survive, and if that meant to pull agun if I had one legally, id do it. You fucking A right Id do it. Him or me, PERIOD!
Some of you guys have never been in a fight in your life, but you talk so tough, like you would act different in that situation. If you grow up tough, I know you would act completely different when faced with a potential life and death situation, if you grew up in tough area. You would have too, to survive!

Yhea, gated community in florida, a real fucking clone of Watts or South Central isnt it? Yall crack me up
 

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I think its humerous a grown man walking up on a kid after following him and then gets his ass whipped. But then to pull out a gun??? Thats the definition of a coward. If you follow someone and get your ass whipped, it kinda goes with the territory.
Got to remember, not everyone is as tough as you are. You don't know either guy or they're history. Really throwing that coward word around. Why?
 

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Got to remember, not everyone is as tough as you are. You don't know either guy or they're history. Really throwing that coward word around. Why?

Killing an unarmed 17 year old kid that you are stalking is the definition of a coward.
 

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Answer my questions to you...

Yhea, gated community in florida, a real fucking clone of Watts or South Central isnt it? Yall crack me up

Ahh, never mind, your lack of response to my questions was enough.
Enjoy your safe life in your "tough" 'hood, and thank God you never had to, or will never have to defend yourself against real predators.
 

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Maybe if Zimmerman had been like you and just went up and asked Martin what's going on instead of first reporting and then following, none of this would have happened. And I am sure you must see strangers walking in your area that may be just visiting someone who lives there, which is what Martin was doing. But as you said, you wouldn't just report them and follow them, you would simply approach them and ask them what's going on. Exactly what a neighborhood watch should do.
Reports are Martin said to Zimmerman "you got a problem?" Zimmerman responded with "No" Martin responded with "well you got one now" and started wailing on Zimmerman.

No jury in the world is going to convict Zimmerman on a murder 2 count when that comes out in court.
 

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I assume when the words like pussy and coward are used, along with the ages as a foundation of your argument, using the word "tough" is well within means. I assume also that there is no 17 year old in this world that couldn't work you over. Lastly, it is safe to assume that if a 17 year old kid was working you over (which according to you is impossible, but let's act as if it was) and as he is pounding your head he is telling you he is going to kill you....at that time you realize you have a gun, you would just take the beating. If someone is on top of me, whaling away, and I feel my life is threatened (which is different than just getting your ass beat)....you better believe I am slinging lead.

Hard to believe he was being beat so bad that a gun was his only way out... especially being a couple hours later he was walking around a police station as though he just got finished with dinner
 

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Ahh, never mind, your lack of response to my questions was enough.
Enjoy your safe life in your "tough" 'hood, and thank God you never had to, or will never have to defend yourself against real predators.

Ive lived in the inner city's of western Pennsylvania all of my life in both Pittsburgh and Erie. Up until recently (3 years ago) i start living outside of city limits. I grew up around a mix of white and blacks. I can honestly tell you i never lived in a gated community. Its a gated community in Florida, let that one soak in. Not exactly the mean streets. The dude was carrying despite the fact that as a neighborhood watchman its not allowed according to the sheriff office there that help start up said watch. He calls up the police because he was suspicious looking. A kid wearing a fucking sweatshirt at what, 8pm???? Then this tool follows the kid and then kids his ass whipped. He deserved it. Did the 17 year old deserve to die? No.
 

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Reports are Martin said to Zimmerman "you got a problem?" Zimmerman responded with "No" Martin responded with "well you got one now" and started wailing on Zimmerman.

No jury in the world is going to convict Zimmerman on a murder 2 count when that comes out in court.

Reports are....

Martin is dead. Zimmerman is alive. I would say any statements and reports according to a man facing a murder charge should probably be taken with not just a grain of salt, but probably an entire mine of it.
 

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They were on the ground. You don't think it's reasonable and possible that Martin came accross the gun? You are a typical American male of 2012. Fear just washes by your theoretical mind. It's easy to be a tough guy 'till you think your life is actually in imminent danger. Fear and adrenalin take over. Age and size are secondary factors. Smaller people kill bigger people. Younger people kill older people. All the time. You guys are talking like the soft liberal mind thinks. Reality and theory are often very different. There are vicious, soulless people out there. If you come up against one you better respond like it's his life or yours. Or it will be yours.
 

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Robert Zimmerman (shooter's father) told CNN that Martin confronted his son first and pummeled his son. "He was punched in the nose. His nose was broken," Robert Zimmerman said. "He was knocked to the concrete. Trayvon Martin got on top of him and just started beating him. In the face. In his nose, hitting his head on the concrete." T

Zimmerman's father also told CNN that Martin threatened to kill Zimmerman and then beat him so badly that His son was forced to shoot.

Zimmerman's brother Robert, Jr. told Piers Morgan that just before the shooting, Martin threatened to kill his brother and attempted to take his gun away. As Zimmerman understands it, Martin either said, "This is going to be easy. You die tonight," or "You have a piece. You die tonight."
 

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