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Iran election race tightens


TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- The day before polls open in Iran's presidential election, the streets are suddenly quiet again as official campaigning comes to an end, and voters prepare for what is expected to be a record turnout.

Whereas President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was a sure bet just 10 days ago, the race has closed this past week, in what is clearly turning into a referendum on his four years in office.


Rivers of green have flowed through the streets, those decked out in the colors of his main challenger, former Prime Minster Mir Hossein Moussavi.


The week started with tens of thousands of his supporters forming a human chain along 17 kilometers of the main Tehran artery Vali-Asr Street.
Called out by text message and email the numbers exceeded all expectations, their ranks swelled by thousands more who joined the chain spontaneously or just lined the route to watch.


"Ahmadi bye bye, Ahmadi bye bye," they sang. Others held up posters that said 'NO LIARS.' It has become the opposition slogan.
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They accuse the president of lying about the shape of the economy, overseeing higher prices, higher unemployment and higher inflation over the last four years.


One woman said she came out "because we want a change, because we want freedom."
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By the end of the week Moussavi's supporters stretched as far as the eye could see from one end of Tehran to another, in scenes not witnessed here since the Islamic Revolution swept this country back in 1979.


Wednesday night a deputy leader of Iran's Revolutionary Guard posted a warning on their Web site, vowing to "crush" any attempts at a "velvet revolution" in Iran.

President Ahmadinejad also drew large crowds, but even his most fervent supporters conceded, they didn't come close to Moussavi's. His staunchest supporters are among the traditional, the poor and the religious faithful.
One woman wrapped in a black chador and tight headgear said: "He's the best president we have had in all the past 30 years in every way."
Another woman says: "He is truly our courageous champion and he'll definitely win, we believe in him."


Ahmadinejad has courted this base by constantly traveling around the country handing out cash, and favors in the rural provinces.


But he has not been able to keep the election promise he made four years ago -- to "put the nation's oil wealth on everyone's dining table."


Azam, who works as a domestic help, says she can barely make ends meet even though she works 16 hours a day. She can't afford the soaring price of meat or vegetables. And most of her salary goes to paying her rising rent.


Leading Iranian economic and political analyst Saeed Leylaz says the president's huge handouts and his monetary policies have driven the country to the brink of disaster.

Ahmadinejad has managed the economy "in a catastrophic disaster way in my opinion" says Leylaz. "Under President Khatami (four years ago) we earned $100 billion with average 5.6% economic growth. We tripled oil revenues but the economic growth stayed about the same," he said. " What does this mean?" asks Leylaz. " It means this machine is corrupted, it does not work anymore and you have to change it."


With the stakes so high at home and on the world stage, many are calling this a turning point election for Iran.
 

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I wonder if they behead their former presidents?

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might not be a pretty scene.
 

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The Clerics run the country the President is just a figure head
 

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Well from what I read the other guy not a hardliner and holocaust denier and such
 

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Well from what I read the other guy not a hardliner and holocaust denier and such

Definitely he's got a much better from for the world but really the Clerics make all decisions in regards to Nuclear power and security.
 

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yeah nice piece scott and pretty much falls in line with my way of thinking

change will have to come within iran and hope for that is a possibility with 2/3rds of the population under 30....

and iranians aren't all die US and israel types like their idiot prez Ahmadinejad

and past US actions such as CIA throwing out democratically elected leader for the shah and supporting saddam in the iraq/iran war strained tensions for many many years
 

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Tiz they've got a long way to go. As long as the radical mullahs control the country elections won't matter because it's not democracy.

The supreme leader makes all important decisions. You can't vote out a dictatorship. Still, I am hopeful. Bush was right about one thing at least -- people everywhere long to be free.

You watch the other segments Tiz? The one was like Joe C and Barman were neighbors. And the other, well, it's like Brazil kidnapped a child from the US. That man will get his son back one day. Still, agonizing!
 

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bush gave Ahmadinejad clout with his harse tone towards iran give me a break

tyranical types like Ahmadinejad feed on external enemies to gain and keep power even though their domestic policies suck nards and cause economic problems and less freedom

obviously its gonna be a process and isn't something that is going to change overnight
 

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in the end like you say people want freedom but the means to that end by war and force (bush's way) doesn't work and only allows repressive regimes to build up within as has been the case in iran's recent history

over time iranians will slowly continue to grasp on to the freedoms they choose to embrace that we have in america such as holding hands in public, drinking beers, listening to rap or whatever they choose to do

the US should lead by example not force.....

throwing bombs and throwing harsh rhetoric towards the country isn't going to get the job done....and only allows repressive regimes to come to power as the leaders use us as an external enemy to gain power and also repress and screw over their own people from within

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy" -James Madison

holds true for any country including nazi germany, the US (our freedoms have definitely decreased ever sense we went globe trotting post 9/11), or iran or whoever
 

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Tiz we'll just disagree on that one. The Islamic Revolution in Iran came from within. And GWB did not make Ahmanutjob crazy, he was already foaming at the mouth.

You don't really think many Iranians heard that "Axis of Evil" comment, did you? You like to speak of a "controlled media." Well over there everything is controlled, and in some Islamic clans, every aspect of daily life. You saw what the censors allowed. It's no picnic over there for the everyday citizen. Especially if she's a women.

War? Of course it should be the last resort.
 

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Interesting article:

Likely International Failure to Stop a Nuclear Iran - Emily B. Landau No Relation =)

The first implication of Iran becoming a nuclear state will be to drive home the extreme helplessness of the international community in the face of a determined nuclear proliferator.

As the U.S. has signaled its distaste for military force and has given Israel a clear red light in this regard, the likely scenario at present is that Iran's going nuclear will come in the wake of a long, drawn-out and failed U.S. attempt to engage Iran.

After assuming the role of the major external player facing Iran, then abandoning both economic and military pressure, it will be primarily a U.S. failure when Iran ultimately goes nuclear.

The U.S. will be exposed globally as weak and ineffective.

The writer is senior research associate and director of the Arms Control and Regional Security Project at the Institute for National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University. (bitterlemons-international)

Full article at:
http://www.inss.org.il/upload/(FILE)1243751877.pdf
 

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well its my belief if we took a more moderate approach post 9/11 Ahmadinejad wouldn't have won in 2005 he kinda popped outta nowhere

but than again you can't really rewrite history but just my guess...

speaking of war last resort.....

will be interesting to see how iraq turns out long term might turn out to be a complete mess once we pull a bulk of the troops out i hope not but history of that place with secretian problems tells me its likely gonna be a mess for a long time

as for the nuclear part i say let the jews handle their own business....they got gobs of nukes and could take them on very easily if they really are some sort of threat

threat of iran lauching a nuke at the US is almost nil

plus as i've said many times in this day and age a nuke is old technology anyway....its all about missile technology and delivery and defense systems

and as we've seen with NK their missile technology is a joke

NK classic example of hyper tyranical leader using a "oppressive" international community that won't let us develop nukes type deal to retain power and treat his own citizens like shit
 

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Tiz it may have been a mistake to try to throw all those warring tribes under the name of one country in the first place. Britain did a hell of a job in that region....of fucking it up. But if you are saying, "Deal with the reality on the ground," I agree.
 
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If there is a change at the top in Iran, what will Mr. Obama do? He'll have to make a new lunch buddy in Iran. I think Obama will be crushed should the crazy guy lose.
 

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Scott submits: "...everything is controlled over there..."

Bar: Almost everything

And with each passing day, the level of control is lessened.

Certainly not as fast as you or I might wish, but it's inevitable.

Every day in Iran, several hundred people turn age 18 (or whatever age is considered "adult") while several hundred old mullahs die.

Every day in Iran, another native son returns from living in or visiting the free world and they begin to share their experience with others.

Every day in Iran, another PC fires up and a clever user figures out how to access a satellite feed or wireless feed off a government computer system and more Western ideas and thinking finds its way into the community


tick tick tick tick.....
 

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