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Bill Belichick Explains Why The NFL Should Make Extra Points Harder

By Tony Manfred


The rise of the idea that field goals and extra points are too easy to make has been one of the more interesting trends of the 2013 NFL season.SI's Peter King wrote that kickers had become too good at field goals, and called the extra point "the biggest waste of time in sports."
The anti-extra point argument is simple: extra points are boring because kickers almost always make them, which isn't how it used to be.
It's a modern, fairly new phenomenon. We've seen the rules of different sports evolve to combat strategic loopholes (the 24-second clock in basketball was used to kill the "four corners" offense, etc.). But this extra point thing — the theory that rules must be changed to combat mastery of a particular part of a game by professionals — is different.

The professionalization of sports has over-increased quality. Modern players are too good for the old rules.
Bill Belichick voiced this sentiment in his press conference yesterday, saying:

"I would be in favor of not seeing [extra points] be an over 99 percent conversion rate. It's virtually automatic. That's just not the way the extra point was put into the game. It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do. The Gino Cappellettis of the world and so forth and they were very good. It's not like it is now where it's well over 99 percent. I don't think that's really a very exciting play because it's so automatic."

Belichick is right, of course. Extra points are boring.
But this is a real problem.

Do you change a fundamental part of the game across all levels just because the very best players in the world have achieved mastery?
The extra point is a meaningful part of the game for college, high school, and peewee players. It's also historically significant since it links American football with its rugby roots. Eliminating it would make the NFL more exciting, but it would have broader repercussions for the sport.
 

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Bill Belichick Explains Why The NFL Should Make Extra Points Harder

By Tony Manfred


The rise of the idea that field goals and extra points are too easy to make has been one of the more interesting trends of the 2013 NFL season.SI's Peter King wrote that kickers had become too good at field goals, and called the extra point "the biggest waste of time in sports."
The anti-extra point argument is simple: extra points are boring because kickers almost always make them, which isn't how it used to be.
It's a modern, fairly new phenomenon. We've seen the rules of different sports evolve to combat strategic loopholes (the 24-second clock in basketball was used to kill the "four corners" offense, etc.). But this extra point thing — the theory that rules must be changed to combat mastery of a particular part of a game by professionals — is different.

The professionalization of sports has over-increased quality. Modern players are too good for the old rules.
Bill Belichick voiced this sentiment in his press conference yesterday, saying:

"I would be in favor of not seeing [extra points] be an over 99 percent conversion rate. It's virtually automatic. That's just not the way the extra point was put into the game. It was an extra point that you actually had to execute and it was executed by players who were not specialists, they were position players. It was a lot harder for them to do. The Gino Cappellettis of the world and so forth and they were very good. It's not like it is now where it's well over 99 percent. I don't think that's really a very exciting play because it's so automatic."

Belichick is right, of course. Extra points are boring.
But this is a real problem.

Do you change a fundamental part of the game across all levels just because the very best players in the world have achieved mastery?
The extra point is a meaningful part of the game for college, high school, and peewee players. It's also historically significant since it links American football with its rugby roots. Eliminating it would make the NFL more exciting, but it would have broader repercussions for the sport.

there's nothing you could do to leave the kicking game apart of the extra point. 30 yards would be almost as automatic, but no one would ever go for it...

unless you eliminate it completely, making teams go for 2, I can't see any chances coming
 

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there's nothing you could do to leave the kicking game apart of the extra point. 30 yards would be almost as automatic, but no one would ever go for it...

unless you eliminate it completely, making teams go for 2, I can't see any chances coming

I would be in favor of eliminating it. Let the current 2pt conversion count for 1 point and move the 2pt conversion to the 10 or 12 yard line.
 

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Make one of the players who were on the field during the touchdown have to kick the extra point...
 

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I'd say make it a 30 or 35 yard attempt

certainly would be made at a 99% + clip anymore

although I'm sure I just suggested a new way to fuck me
 

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NFL is stagnating because it has no competition. Let's take a look at how much more exciting the scoring was in the XFL.

No PAT (point after touchdown) kicks

After touchdowns there were no extra point kicks, due to the XFL's perception that an extra point kick was a "guaranteed point." To earn a point after a touchdown, teams ran a single offensive down from the two-yard line (functionally identical to the NFL/NCAA/CFL two-point conversion), but for just a single point. By the playoffs, two-point and three-point conversions had been added to the rules. Teams could opt for the bonus points by playing the conversion farther back from the goal line.




However, the XFL later added a rule in the playoffs that allowed the scoring team to score two (or even three) points by successfully executing a play from a point farther from the opponent's end zone (two points if the team could score from the five-yard line and three points if they could score from the ten-yard line).



Think how much more exciting games could be with a 3 point conversion
 

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Not gonna open. It would change the entire betting landscape for nfl. Vegas would be vehemently against it. Pretty sure NFL would as well even though they like to act as if they do not support gambling.
 

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