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I think that instead of GOP they should be GCP (gated community party).

Thats OK people who live in gated community's should have a say in government it's just that they have screwed it up SO bad in the past.
 

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A bunch of rich white old elitists mocking a minority for trying to improve lives in poor communities. That's what I saw.
 

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A rat wanger calling anyone a liar is the height of hypocrisy.
 
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I gave an opinion.

Ok. Show me where you saw this:

"A bunch of rich white old elitists mocking a minority for trying to improve lives in poor communities. That's what I saw."

Or, were you just making it up because you thought it sounded good?
 

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Ok. Show me where you saw this:

"A bunch of rich white old elitists mocking a minority for trying to improve lives in poor communities. That's what I saw."

Or, were you just making it up because you thought it sounded good?

Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, John McCain and Sarah Palin (although she's middle-aged, not old yet). There were others too, I'm sure. Mocking Obama for his community organizing.
 
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Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson, John McCain and Sarah Palin (although she's middle-aged, not old yet). There were others too, I'm sure. Mocking Obama for his community organizing.

D2Bets,

You are I both know that no-one is mocking anyone for the act of helping
the poor.

So, your comments are disingenuous if not outright lies.

What they are mocking is Obama inflating and distorting
these experiences as if they
qualified him to be President. When actually (see below) many of
them were failures.

In his memoir, Obama says being a community organizer taught him how to motivate the powerless and work the government to help them. His chief example is an effort to remove asbestos from Altgeld Gardens, an all-black public housing project on Chicago’s South Side.



But those who were involved in the effort say Obama played a minor role in working the problem and never accomplished his goal. A pre-existing group at Altgeld Gardens and a local newspaper, the Chicago Reporter, were working on the problem before Obama came on the scene, yet Obama does not mention them in his book, “Dreams From My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Just because someone writes it, doesn't make it true,” says Altgeld resident Hazel Johnson, who had been pushing for a cleanup of the cancer-producing substance years before Obama showed up.
Rep. Bobby L. Rush, D-Ill., says it was Johnson's work, along with asbestos testing by the Chicago Reporter, that got Chicago officials interested in the issue. Rush, who launched an inquiry into the situation when he was a member of the Chicago City Council, says he is “offended” that Obama did not mention Johnson in his account.
“Was [Obama] involved in stuff? Absolutely,” says Robert Ginsburg, an activist who worked with Johnson and Obama on the problem. “But there was stuff happening before him, and after him.”
After three years working as an organizer, Obama could say he helped obtain grants for a jobs program and got asbestos removed from some pipes in the project. But as the Los Angeles Times has noted, the “large-scale change that was needed at the 1,998-unit project was beyond his reach.” To this day, most of the asbestos remains in the apartments.
Fruitless though his efforts were, Obama devoted more than 100 pages to his experiences at Altgeld Gardens and surrounding areas. Michelle Obama has said his work as a community organizer helped him decide “how he would impact the world,” assisting people to improve their lives. Yet, in a revealing passage in his book, Obama wrote, “When classmates in college asked me just what it was that a community organizer did, I couldn’t answer them directly.”
Instead, he said, “I’d pronounce on the need for change. Change in the White House, where Reagan and his minions were carrying on their dirty deeds. Change in the congress, compliant and corrupt. Change in the mood of the country, manic and self-absorbed. Change won’t come from the top, I would say. Change will come from a mobilized grass roots.”
Thus, Obama admitted that he accomplished little but that he was able to cover that up with fancy talk about change.



Obama's $1.1 Million Botanical Garden



Barack Obama's $1.1 Million Botanical Garden -- Er, $100,000 Gazebo (Graphics Updated)


By Tom Blumer (Bio | Archive)
September 7, 2008 - 14:35 ET

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The media and the Obama campaign (but I repeat myself) are comparing the "experience" of'the Democrats' presidential nominee to that of the GOP's vice-presidential pick -- meaning, one must assume, that the debate over his experience vs. John McCain's is over, in McCain's resounding favor.
Let's look back a couple of months at a post I put up on July 14 (with minor revisions) that gives a, uh, concrete example of one of Barack Obama's management "experiences" -- one that the national media has (of course) totally ignored.
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Barack Obama's $100,000 Gazebo
Here's an interesting story I found in the Chicago Tribune archives (obtained from ProQuest library database; for fair use and discussion purposes):
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ENGLEWOOD IS EYED FOR BOTANICAL GARDEN
Chicago Tribune. Chicago, Ill.: Jan 15, 2000. pg. 5
A group of politicians, school administrators and community activists unveiled a plan Friday for a $1.1 million botanical garden in the city's Englewood neighborhood.
The proposal calls for a walk beneath the "L" tracks on Princeton Avenue, from 59th Place to 62nd Place. Backers said they hope it will help spur redevelopment in the impoverished area, boost neighborhood pride and soften the impact of traffic and pollution from the nearby Dan Ryan Expressway.
State Sen. Barack Obama (D-Chicago) said he planned to seek state funding for the effort and estimated that ground could be broken in early 2001.
The proposed garden also would include a gazebo, a parrot sanctuary and a walk of fame.
Gee, that sounds exciting. Let's go visit:
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(Google Maps image is more than likely from before the Sun-Times visit described below occurred, and before the related report and video were posted.)
Imagine that. No garden. No parrot sanctuary. No walk of fame.
How can that be? What happened? The Chicago Sun-Times tells us the answer, while revealing that "at least" there's a gazebo -- but not much of one (video is at link; HT Jennifer Rubin via the TIB All-Stars July 12 collection at Weapons of Mass Discussion):
Obama's $100,000 garden grant wasted
He vowed to 'work tirelessly' to build an oasis for Englewood. It never happened.
July 11, 2008
As a state senator, Barack Obama gave $100,000 in state money to a campaign volunteer who failed to deliver on a plan to create a botanic garden in one of Chicago's most blighted neighborhoods.
..... what was supposed to be a six-block stretch of trees and paths is now a field of unfulfilled dreams, strewn with weeds, garbage and broken pavement.
Kenny B. Smith, whose nonprofit group got the money, said it was spent legitimately, mostly on underground site preparation. But he admitted Thursday that the garden is a lost cause because other government money never came through.
..... Smith -- an early Obama supporter who gave $550 to his state and congressional campaigns -- said he gave his paperwork documenting the work to a state agency and no longer has it.
..... a reporter walked the site last week with a landscape architect from the Illinois Green Industry Association who found no evidence of the work Smith cited. The only major changes since 2000: A gazebo was added, and some trees were cut down.
Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, said through a spokesman he wasn't responsible for monitoring the work; the staffs of Gov. Blagojevich and former Gov. George Ryan were.
..... In 2001, at Obama's direction, a $100,000 Illinois FIRST grant went to Smith's group. The garden site was part of Rosewood Estates, an affordable-housing development being built by the group, whose unpaid board chairman was Brian Washington, a Sun-Times security guard.
Plans called for more than 50 homes, but only a dozen were built, Smith said.
The remaining $1 million for the botanic garden was never raised.
Those legendary $400 hammers for the military have nothing on this $100,000 gazebo.
A trifling matter? I don't think so. More like a revealing one:
  • Obama feels no sense of responsibility for the results of money directed to someone HE chose. This isn't "the buck stops here" of Harry Truman fame; this is "the buck went somewhere else."
  • Gubernatorial staffs aren't responsible for monitoring projects like this. State agencies are. If the agency involved didn't do their job (according to the article, it's the Department of Commerce and Economic Opportunity), that's one thing, but the blame-shifting to other pols is either hopelessly naive (a legitimate possibility, given the candidate's seemingly endless well of ignorance) or irresponsible.
  • If you look at the full text of the press release that announced the project, you'll see that Kenny Smith was on hand, and that he made representations about how he was "work(ing) with a variety of governmental agencies and not-for-profit groups to secure funding this project including the Chicago Transit Authority, the United States Department of Agriculture, and the American Society of Landscape Architecture. We have made some progress ...." My bet: Smith had, at most, met with these orgs once or twice, and was blowing smoke about the realistic chances of getting money. For a nominal $550 in campaign contributions, Smith got 100 grand, which "somehow" has mostly gone bye-bye. Bottom line: Obama got hustled. Did he even look into how the rest of the "fund-raising" was going before directing the release of the grant funds?
  • Perhaps that's why Obama seems oddly indifferent to what ultimately happened. The response from his spokesman (and not the candidate) is tired boilerplate about "provid(ing) residents with a livable neighborhood." Zzzzzz.
The larger point is this: The guy is hopelessly gullible, can't even get a $100,000 grant right, and now wants to have the final say in matters relating to a $3-plus trillion federal budget and a $14-trillion economy in a town chock full of con artists and tricksters.
Yikes.
It would be cool if some enterprising photo-opster could make up a "Barack Obama $100,000 Gazebo" sign (or something more clever -- use your imagination), take some pictures at the site, and post them. Until that happens, this well-done contribution from NewsBusters reader "tnculp" will do very nicely:
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Now you are being disingenuous. The mocking of community organizing was not about whether Obama did enough of it, or was good at it or gave someone else credit in his book, it was about the very fact that he was a community organizer, which is basically working in poor minority communities. You know as well as I do that they were mocking it and the people mocking it were rich white folks.
 
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Now you are being disingenuous. The mocking of community organizing was not about whether Obama did enough of it, or was good at it or gave someone else credit in his book, it was about the very fact that he was a community organizer, which is basically working in poor minority communities. You know as well as I do that they were mocking it and the people mocking it were rich white folks.

Nope, I disagree with you 100%.
 

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being a community organizer is noble, especially if done from the heart

however, it does not make you qualified to be President. certainly not more so than being a mayor of a small town and Governor of a state. Capice?

now if that's racist, so be it

:lol:
 

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Obama has not been a CO for 20 years. It was a really classless, ignorant and irrelevant thing to take a swipe at.


The sad part is some dumb voter will eat that up as if it means anything.
 

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being a community organizer is noble, especially if done from the heart

however, it does not make you qualified to be President. certainly not more so than being a mayor of a small town and Governor of a state. Capice?

now if that's racist, so be it

:lol:

Neither does being a sports anchor. Obama was a community organizer 25 years ago out of college and before law school. Nobody says that is what makes him qualified to be President. Sarah Palin compares her being a mayor to his community organizing despite the fact that up until 2 years ago that was her highest position while for Obama that was 25 years ago. If Obama was a community organizer in 2005 then they would have a point.
 
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Obama has not been a CO for 20 years. It was a really classless, ignorant and irrelevant thing to take a swipe at.


The sad part is some dumb voter will eat that up as if it means anything.

No one said he was.

You are famous for throwing up a straw-man, and knocking it down.
 

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I think that instead of GOP they should be GCP (gated community party).

Thats OK people who live in gated community's should have a say in government it's just that they have screwed it up SO bad in the past.

Are Detroit, New Orleans, and DC gated communities?

Just wondering.
 

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