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Lawmakers are rolling the dice on Internet gambling.
Reps. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, and Peter King, R-N.Y., unveiled legislation Wednesday that would enable Americans to legally gamble online.
"The government should not interfere with people's liberty unless there is a good reason," Frank said. "This is, I believe, the single biggest example of an intrusion into the principle that people should be free to do things on the Internet. It's clearly the case that gambling is an activity that can be done offline but not online."
The law currently prohibits credit card companies and banks from processing bets placed on online gambling Web sites.
The legislation will repeal language passed in 2006 and signed into law by President Bush that made it illegal for banks and credit card companies to process bets made on the Internet.
Opponents argue that this will serve as a "clear danger to our youth" and encourage gambling addiction at a young age.
"If you put a computer in a teenager's bedroom, or in a student's dorm room at college, it's a temptation that many fall prey to," Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., said in a statement. "In fact, studies have shown that the earlier one begins gambling, the more likely it is he or she will become a compulsive problem gambler."
But Frank said his bill will include safeguards to prevent underage or compulsive gambling and other illegal activity.
"The notion that a society should prohibit something entirely because of the possibility that children will abuse it is a terrible blow to liberty," Frank said....



http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/06/lawmakers-bet-internet-gambling-legislation/


http://uk.reuters.com/article/usPoliticsNews/idUKTRE5454Z720090506


http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j22cdZo-b_2u22YCcteBlTXuFEHw


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One thing that always bothered me about the Republican party: the police state attitude.

"If you put a computer in a teenager's bedroom, or in a student's dorm room at college, it's a temptation that many fall prey to," Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., said in a statement.

That's some real crybaby baloney.

Bachus is essentially saying take away the freedom, person's right and it solves the problem.
 

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I hope they actually get some traction with this legislation. Politicians need to quit with the "for the children" crap, it no longer works.
 

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From the news article above:


"The notion that a society should prohibit something entirely because of the possibility that children will abuse it is a terrible blow to liberty," Frank said....

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This is one issue I agree with the Democrats. I think
online gambling should be legal, taxed and regulated.

One could make the same argument for certain drugs,
and prostitution... etc.
 

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Lawmakers are rolling the dice on Internet gambling.
Reps. Barney Frank, D-Mass., chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, and Peter King, R-N.Y., unveiled legislation Wednesday that would enable Americans to legally gamble online.
"The government should not interfere with people's liberty unless there is a good reason," Frank said.[/quote]


Perhaps Slobbering Barney should remember where WE the PEOPLE get our liberties from, such as free speech, right to bear arms. But I will give a big thumbs up to the DEMS on this piece of legislation and a big old screw you to the REPS.
 

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I hope it passes, but I'll wager it doesn't.

Especially considering Obama wants to crack down on off-shore activities, not sure he can endorse this one.

So before taking political shots, make sure you can deliver. This is akin to trying to cash your NBA ticket in mid-way through the first qtr.
 

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Be careful what you wish for...

The bill seeks to issue licenses to online gambling operators, but only those who are in good financial and legal standing and of good character, honesty and integrity, and whose prior activities, reputation, habits and associations do not pose a threat to the public interest or to the effective regulation and control of of the licensed activities.

Details Of Barney Frank Online Gambling Bill Released (6 May 2009)

http://www.recentpoker.com/news/barney-frank-gambling-bill-2751.html

They will push out the offshore books with the licensing requirement...and favor the US operators that lobby the best.

Bye bye Betjam, TheGreek, 5Dimes, Matchbook ect.

Welcome back to 30 cent lines available now at Harrah's .com :ohno:
 

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Yup. I'm not too anxious for this to pass. I think it might make things worse.
Be careful what you wish for...



They will push out the offshore books with the licensing requirement...and favor the US operators that lobby the best.

Bye bye Betjam, TheGreek, 5Dimes, Matchbook ect.

Welcome back to 30 cent lines available now at Harrah's .com :ohno:
 

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Originally Posted by Mistermj
Be careful what you wish for...



They will push out the offshore books with the licensing requirement...and favor the US operators that lobby the best.

Bye bye Betjam, TheGreek, 5Dimes, Matchbook


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Fuck THE GREEK. I hope he does get pushed out. He's a slimeball. Spoke to him personally once in 2002. In a heated argument - he tried to tell me my $200 Future bet on a PGA Major Tournament (Hal Sutton) was lost because the player I wagered on withdrew 2 weeks before the event. I asked him that if it was Tiger Woods that was withdrawing would he dare pocket the millions bet on him. He said yes. I told him he was full of shit.

Then he insinuated I was being cheap for complaining about it. I told him where to go - and that was the end of it. He returned the $200 and banned me from ever playing with him again.

Maybe it had something to do with the $6K check I had just received and cashed from a $1K SB Wager on the New England Patriots- heavy underdogs (5-1) to make it past the Steelers in the Playoffs and the Rams in the Superbowl.:laugh:
 

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Be careful what you wish for...

They will push out the offshore books with the licensing requirement...and favor the US operators that lobby the best.

Bye bye Betjam, TheGreek, 5Dimes, Matchbook ect.

Welcome back to 30 cent lines available now at Harrah's .com :ohno:

The above scenario is nonsense.

The offshore books cannot be "pushed out". In the event legal books were permitted and licensed by the US govt, they would either have to be competitive or else lose business to the offshores.
 

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The above scenario is nonsense.

The offshore books cannot be "pushed out". In the event legal books were permitted and licensed by the US govt, they would either have to be competitive or else lose business to the offshores.

stop towing the (rx) company line barman. this would be disasterous for offshores as they may still be considered illegal even if it passes. heavy lobbying by steve wynn and the like would allow people to use credit cards and bet through "online vegas" with quick payouts, bonuses including airfare and free rooms in vegas, and the addition of casino and card rooms to their sites all the while slowing pushing out offshores. it would actually be the other way around. the offshores would have to be competitive or lose business to vegas

on a side note, this may be the ONLY thing b frank has ever done that i agreed with. his assistance in the CRA revision under clinton has ruined the housing market
 

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stop towing the (rx) company line barman. this would be disasterous for offshores as they may still be considered illegal even if it passes. heavy lobbying by steve wynn and the like would allow people to use credit cards and bet through "online vegas" with quick payouts, bonuses including airfare and free rooms in vegas, and the addition of casino and card rooms to their sites all the while slowing pushing out offshores. it would actually be the other way around. the offshores would have to be competitive or lose business to vegas

on a side note, this may be the ONLY thing b frank has ever done that i agreed with. his assistance in the CRA revision under clinton has ruined the housing market

"toeing"

As for your rebuttal, you've presented a different scenario than the one to which I responded. In yours, the legal, licensed sportsbooks are offering a far more competitive product. If they actually did that, it would certainly impact the offshore market to some degree.
 

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"toeing"

As for your rebuttal, you've presented a different scenario than the one to which I responded. In yours, the legal, licensed sportsbooks are offering a far more competitive product. If they actually did that, it would certainly impact the offshore market to some degree.

10 years of college and i still cant spell :ohno:. this is dr kiln's thread, i'll wait for him to come back and rip my post to shreds too. :drink:

even if ALL sources were legal, it would devastate the offshore market. right now offshore has ALL the business. if vegas showed up with fancy marketing and crazy perks it would be very attractive to degenerates who dont mind uncle sam looking over their shoulder.​
 

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I'm unclear about the wording of your last paragraph.

As written, it's agreeable to my own most recent post above.

If sportsbooks could operate legally within the USA, offer a competitive product, including online access, they would be a serious impediment to offshore sportsbooks.

In the short snip by MMJ, he implied the new legal books would be offering 30cent lines. In that scenario, the offshores would rock along just fine.
 

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stop towing the (rx) company line barman. this would be disasterous for offshores as they may still be considered illegal even if it passes. heavy lobbying by steve wynn and the like would allow people to use credit cards and bet through "online vegas" with quick payouts, bonuses including airfare and free rooms in vegas, and the addition of casino and card rooms to their sites all the while slowing pushing out offshores. it would actually be the other way around. the offshores would have to be competitive or lose business to vegas

on a side note, this may be the ONLY thing b frank has ever done that i agreed with. his assistance in the CRA revision under clinton has ruined the housing market
offshore wont be affected...like was said the "legal" shops are going to have to compete(linewise) to take away any business from offshore..they may get knew unknowing customers but offshores wont lose any
 
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"toeing"

As for your rebuttal, you've presented a different scenario than the one to which I responded. In yours, the legal, licensed sportsbooks are offering a far more competitive product. If they actually did that, it would certainly impact the offshore market to some degree.

Both "toeing" and "towing" are acceptable spellings for this usage.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line


'Sometimes this phrase is written "tow the line," an eggcorn changing the meaning of the phrase from conformance with a rule to contribution to a cause or effort, as in the act of pulling something with a line, the way a canal man would along a barge canal's towpath.'
 

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offshore wont be affected...like was said the "legal" shops are going to have to compete(linewise) to take away any business from offshore..they may get knew unknowing customers but offshores wont lose any

gamblers are desperate people. never underestimate what a little marketing and added features/bonuses (and the government when they see $$) can do
 

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offshore wont be affected...like was said the "legal" shops are going to have to compete(linewise) to take away any business from offshore..they may get knew unknowing customers but offshores wont lose any

It's ridiculous and naive to think this bill is about leveling the playing field of online gaming.

C'mon!

Barney Frank has US Casino interests in his back pocket...we are all about to get the shaft.

This is about control, squeezing out offshore books, collecting taxes and forcing business to established US Casino's that are pumping lobby money to Barney.

Sure as hell when this is over...we will all be worse off than we are now.

I can't believe how easy the lefties are sucked into these traps based on a headline. :ohno:
 

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