Action Reverse

[WharfRat+]

Can anyone explain to me how this works. Thank you.

 

[TheGeneral+]

REVERSES
There are two types of reverses, Win-Reverse & Action-Reverse

Win-Reverse Wager

A Win-Reverse wager is a pair of IF WIN wagers. The pairs are made by taking the original If Win wager and placing another If Win wager in reverse order. Not only is it a wager that if A wins then B, but also If B wins then A.

Following is a breakdown of a 2 and 3 play Win-Reverse wager.

<TABLE id=AutoNumber2 style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" align=middle width="51%" colSpan=4>2 Team Play</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" align=middle width="49%" colSpan=4>3 Team Play</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>US$100 Win-Reverse on Play-A in
Game 1 and Play-B in Game-2</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>US$100 Win-Reverse on Play-A in Game 1, Play-B in Game 2 and Play-C in Game 3</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>-US$110 to win US$100 on Play-A in Game 1</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>A 3 Play Win-Reverse has 6 different 2</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>If above wager wins then:</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>team combinations: 1) If A wins the B;</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>-US$110 to win US$100 on Play-B in Game 2</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>2) If A wins then C; 3) If B wins then A; 4)If B wins then C; 5) If C wins then A;</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>AND</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>And 6) If C wins then B.</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>If the above wager wins then:</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>-US$110 to win US$100 on Play-A in Game 1.</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="51%" colSpan=4>Payout for a US$100 2 Play Win-Reverse</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="49%" colSpan=4>Payout for a US$100 3 Play Win-Reverse</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>Wager based n US$110 to win US$100 plays.</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>Wager based on US$100 to win US$100 plays.</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Wins</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Pushes</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Loses</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win or Loss Amount</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Wins</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Number of Pushes</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Number of Loses</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win or Loss Amount</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$400</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">3</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$1200</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$100</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$600</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">No Action</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$200</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$120</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$160</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$110</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">3</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">No Action</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$220</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$130</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$220</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$460</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$440</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$660</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Action-Reverse Wager

An Action-Reverse wager is a pair of IF ACTION wagers. The pairs are made by taking the original If Action wager and placing another If Action wager in reverse order. Not only is it a wager that if A wins or pushes then B, but also If B wins or pushes then A.

Following is a breakdown of a 2 and 3 play Action-Reverse wager.

<TABLE id=AutoNumber4 style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" borderColor=#111111 cellPadding=2 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" align=middle width="51%" colSpan=4>2 Team Play</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" align=middle width="49%" colSpan=4>3 Team Play</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>US$100 Action-Reverse on Play-A in</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>US$100 Action-Reverse on Play-A in Game 1,</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>Game 1 and Play-B in Game-2.</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>Play-B in Game 2 and Play-C in Game 3.</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>- US$110 to win US$100 on Play-A in Game 1.</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>A 3 Play Action-Reverse has 6 different 2</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4> If the above wager wins or pushes then:</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> team combinations: 1) If A wins or pushes</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>- US$110 to win US$100 on Play-B in Game 2.</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>then B; 2) If A wins or pushes then C; </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>AND</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>3) If B wins or pushes then A; 4) If B wins</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>- US$110 to win US$100 on Play-B in Game 2.</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>or pushes then C; 5) If C wins or pushes</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>If the above wager wins or pushes then: </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>then A; and 6) If C wins or pushes then B.</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>- US$110 to win US$100 on Play-A in Game 1.</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="51%" colSpan=4>Payout for a US$100 2 Play Action-Reverse</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="49%" colSpan=4>Payout for a US$100 3 Play Action-Reverse</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-TOP: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4>Wager based n US$110 to win US$100 plays.</TD><TD style="BORDER-TOP: 1px solid; BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4>Wager based on US$100 to win US$100 plays.</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="51%" colSpan=4> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top width="49%" colSpan=4> </TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Wins</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Pushes</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Loses</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win or Loss Amount</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">Number of Wins</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Number of Pushes</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Number of Loses</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win or Loss Amount</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$400</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">3</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$1200</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$200</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$800</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">No Action</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$400</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$120</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Win US$160</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$220</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">3</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">No Action</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">2</TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$220</TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$140</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$140</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$460</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">1</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">2</TD><TD vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$660</TD></TR><TR><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%"> </TD><TD style="BORDER-LEFT: 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="13%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">0</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">3</TD><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px solid" vAlign=top align=middle width="12%">Lose US$660</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[JudgeWapner]

Wharf it is a double if win or tie bet
ie; A if win or tie to b
and B if win or tie to a.

 

[SubZaero]

Double if win only bet.
Choose 2 teams. A and B
You get 2 different plays
A if win only B
and
B if win only A

 

[JudgeWapner]

I think General is also correct if I could figure out what the hell he is saying.

 

[WharfRat+]

Thanks fellas. Is this a good way to wager, or should it be avoided like parlays?

BTW, i love betting parlays.

 

[SubZaero]

That win reverse is new to me....
I thought the "win or tie" one was called double action reverse......
But well, i think he gets the point...

 

[JudgeWapner]

Wharf,reverses are the same odds as a straight bet. Reverses are better bets than parlays.

 

[jjgold]

Judgy do you really think that???

I bet them but always wondered if they werer sucker bets

 

[JudgeWapner]

Coach,not a sucker bet at all. I am a reverse player. Same odds as straight,just more action.

 

[FatTony]

I like reverses also. Only do them when i'm up a ton or down a ton.

 

[jjgold]

Reverses are only for East Coast players

 

[FatTony]

Reverses are only for East Coast players

Don't make this into an East coast/West Coast thing like Biggie and Tupac did, ok?:biglaugh:

 

[jjgold]

Tony we invented them in the east coast

I do not know though if it was Phila or NY as the orignator??

 

[FatTony]

I know. I remember going to Vegas 15 years ago and the guy at the sportsbook looked at me like I had two heads when I tried to bet one.