A Short List Of Players I Think Do/Don't Take Steroids

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DO/DID:

Jason Giambi
Nomar Garciaparra
Barry Bonds

DON'T:

Ellis Burks
Manny Ramirez
Mark McGwire
 

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And your reasons Mark McGwire appears to have not taken them are?

I believe he has, he has shown the following signs:
1. Sudden change in body mass(he wasn't that large at Oakland or at USC but was massive in his later years.

2. He broke down a lot, often a telltale sign of users.

3. Had acne for quite awhile. This is also a side effect from steroid usage.

4. From what I've heard he is quite a bit smaller now than his playing days.

I may be wrong, but I think he was on em.
 

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You may be right, I was thinking he didn't because he was in to all that Andro and other crap, but I could be wrong.
 

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Andro was all a front, everyone knew McGwire put it in his locker so that the reporters would pick up on it. Look at him now, if you don't think he was on 'roids you are either completely naive or racist.
 

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I didn't know that....I guess you are right
Although, not really sure how racism is even brought up here.
 

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IS on roids

Alex Rodriguez
Brett Boone
Mike Piazza
Andy Roddick
Mark Prior
Andre Agassi

NOT on roids

Roger Clemens
Tim Henman
Roger Federer
Marat Safin
Jake Plummer
Ichiro Suzuki
Josh Beckett
 

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good list Rail, I disagree on a few, but pretty close in my opinion. As far as race, if ANYONE thinks Bonds is on steroids and McGwire was not, that is blatant racism or outright naivete, either way not good.
 

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Agassi, Rail???, I have always known him as a standup guy around town. Any more info???
 

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McGuire was definately on roids. He said he took andro because andro was not prohibited, although it makes you test positive for steroid usage. He had plusable deniability this way.

A lot of pitchers are on roids too, but they're getting away with it because everyone's looking at the home run hitters.
 

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Andro was not banned at the time, and I remember I worked in the supplement industry at that time and I took andro. It is a completely different animal than comparing it to steroids. If you banned andro, you should ban creatine, then you ban red meat, it is ridicuolous how uninformed and idiotic politicians can be.
 

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McGwire is certainly a yes. A great player, though injured last year who I feel is clean is Shawn Green.
 

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Green Dober,

Speaking of idiotic....you sound pretty stupid yourself. If someone thinks Bonds took steroids but McGwire didn't that makes them racist? I think that may be the stupidest thing I ever heard.
 

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an easy way to tell if someone is on roids is to look at their traps. McGwire's at the end were hooked to his ears.

Pujols of the Cards is also a likely candidate.

RailBird, MarK Prior doesn't juice or at least his body doesn't show it.
 

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i agree w/ you 100 percent green doberman about that bonds/mcgwire statement.
 

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IVE HEARD JOURNEYMEN IS TAKING ROIDS... DONT KNOW 4 SURE,,, BUT THATS WHAT THE STREET GOT!
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Red, are you talking about the racist statment? If so, you are an idiot too. You guys make no sense!
 

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sherman, go reread his post. you are acting like the idiot.
he wrote "if ANYONE thinks Bonds is on steroids and McGwire was not, that is blatant racism or outright naivete, either way not good"

did he just say racist? NO.
there can be other factors.
i'll include stupidity.
which of the 3 are you?
 

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Mcguire unquestionably on steroids. Not so sure Manny isn't Sammy Sosa definitely is or was, and I wouldn't be surprized if Clemens is. Hard workouts go hand in hand with heavy steroid use, maximizing their effectiveness.
 

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