Since OU seems to be the third choice on this board for making it to the BCS championship game, just remember that all of OU's hard games with top 25 teams have come on the road (Texas, OSU, Texas A&M). USC has played one top 25 team (Va. Tech) on the road. Auburn has played 1 top 25 team (Tennessee) on the road. OU played in the championship game last year. They were at the beginning of the season and still are rated number 2 in all polls based on the fact that they are returning 16 starters off of that team including Heisman trophy winner Jason White and Heisman candidate A.Peterson. USC, who won the other half of the National title last year is retuning 12 starters, including an almost entirely rebuilt offensive line. Auburn is returning 13 starters off of an 8-5 team. OU's big disadvantage this year seems to be that they play in the Big 12. I admit the North Division has been awful this year. But the facts are that OU lives in the South Division, which I believe is the best mini-conference in the country with 5 out of 6 of the teams being in the top 25 this year. USC has played 3 teams with winning this year. Auburn has played 3 teams with winning records. OU has played 6 teams with winning records. That's out of 10 games folks. I'd say that's a pretty tough schedule. USC's nonconference games consisted of Va.Tech, Colorado St.,BYU. Auburn played LA.Monroe, LA.Tech, and The Citidal who is a Division 1-AA team. OU has played Houston, Oregon, and Bowling Green who is in the top 25 this week and will probably win the MAC conference. Those are the facts. Anything anybody says on this board about OU not deserving to be number 2 is irrelevant. If their not going to have a playoff, the 2 BCS teams should still be decided by the computers and strength of schedule. When you start getting sportswriters and coaches involved your going to get favortism just like you do on this board. People are just tired of seeing a good football program like OU get there year after year. They want to see new faces even if it means sacrificing a good team like the Sooners. I'm not saying one of these 3 teams are better than the other. I'm just saying that if one is left out like what happened last year, you still won't know who the true champs are. It will also make the BCS out to be the fraud that it is. The best solution that I can see for the problem is to have a mini-playoff between the top 4 teams and then a championship game. I'm betting after the controversy this year they are going to go with something like that.
my take on this might be echoed by a lot of other people and here it is:
LAST season - OU got lucky. they should NOT have played in the Sugar Bowl for #1 - LSU and USC should have. if your argument is: OU knew they were in the Sugar Bowl regardless of how they did against K-State and therefore they took a "game off" then i say that is even MORE reason OU should not have played in the Sugar Bowl last season. if you admit "tanking" a game - that is a disgrace.
OU got a bowl bid they didn't deserve last season - so i think when it comes time to "F" a team this season - we do it to OU and "F" them this season. call it payback - and you know what they say about "payback."
LAST season - OU got lucky. they should NOT have played in the Sugar Bowl for #1 - LSU and USC should have. if your argument is: OU knew they were in the Sugar Bowl regardless of how they did against K-State and therefore they took a "game off" then i say that is even MORE reason OU should not have played in the Sugar Bowl last season. if you admit "tanking" a game - that is a disgrace.
OU got a bowl bid they didn't deserve last season - so i think when it comes time to "F" a team this season - we do it to OU and "F" them this season. call it payback - and you know what they say about "payback."
You just made by point about favortism on the board and in the BCS. You say OU "tanked" the game last year with Kansas St. But the fact is LSU also lost a game to an average Florida team. And that was at home. Did they tank that game? USC lost to California. Did they tank that game. The fact is everybody had one loss last year just like all 3 teams are undefeated this year. OU got there by strength of schedule last year. All I'm saying is they should be there for the same reason this year. Unlike this board or the idiot sportswriters out there, computers don't care when or how you lost a game. And it don't play favorites with the BCS.
OU lost the BIGGEST game of their season by 28 and only a rare show of compassion by Bill Snyder kept it from getting worse - which it very easily could have been. also - as we know in CFB - it's not that you lose - but when! OU lost its last game of the year and DID NOT deserve a Sugar Bowl bid - and their pathetic performance showed that to be true. computers may not care when you lose - but with 67% of the B(C)S determined by humans - when or how much you lose a game DOES matter.GoSooners said:
personally - i hope OU DOES make the orange bowl because this way USC would have a much easier time than if they had to play Auburn. USC runs OU off the field while Auburn is a 50/50 game.
The "when you lose" logic just doesn't hold up. That's the very reason they went to the BCS system in the first place. Because so much favortism was being made with the old system, instead of the most important reason strength of schedule and amount of wins. Which IS determined by computers. If you went by who lost last in Professional football they would laugh you off this board. Good teams lose all the time in the pros. It doesn't mean they suck. I haven't seen an undefeated team win the Super Bowl since Miami. Almost everybody loses at one time during the season whether it be college or pro. This year you just happen to have 3 undefeated BCS teams. That should be proof enough just what kind of season each team has had and how well they've played. I'm just saying weigh the facts and don't go by what happened the year before or how much "payback" a team deserves.winkyduck said:
i agree with you winky. i hope oklahoma gets left out. last year usc got the bone. now its oklahoma turn untill they have a play-off, this will happen every year but oklahoma fans have to see how it feels and i think auburn and usc will play in the big one and this will make me a very happy camper
YES OKLAHOMA has played a few more teams with winning records, but they have not yet dominated a football game.
osu had a chance to tie with a fg, texas game at a 12-0 stint, and kansas who is terrible they also struggled with for three qts,
if auburn would not of played a 1aa team, i bet there power rankings would be higher than okla.
after watching auburn play, with the two backs, the defense, and coaching ability, i think auburn deserves a shot.
okla strenght of schedule will go down with a baylor game, and playing a team with a possible losing record in the championship, will hurt them.
auburn will paly three teams with winning records, and should bump them.
that is what i heard during the beggining of the season. but we will see.
the problem is that the big 12 is so overrated that it is causing major problems.
osu had a chance to tie with a fg, texas game at a 12-0 stint, and kansas who is terrible they also struggled with for three qts,
if auburn would not of played a 1aa team, i bet there power rankings would be higher than okla.
after watching auburn play, with the two backs, the defense, and coaching ability, i think auburn deserves a shot.
okla strenght of schedule will go down with a baylor game, and playing a team with a possible losing record in the championship, will hurt them.
auburn will paly three teams with winning records, and should bump them.
that is what i heard during the beggining of the season. but we will see.
the problem is that the big 12 is so overrated that it is causing major problems.
The argument about OU not dominating in an away game can be said about USC too. They played Virginia Tech on a neutral field in a close game. They played Stanford on the road and almost got beat. They also had a close call with Oregon State last week on the road. USC has had a very favorable schedule this year with their hard games (California) played at home. Of course the key to all of this is both teams won all of their games. But I think Texas, Texas A&M and OSU (all top 25 teams) are a much better road trip than VA.Tech, Stanford and Oregon St. In my opinion the 2 best teams and the ones who deserve to be in the championship game are Auburn and OU. Auburn because their playing good both at home and away. And OU because they have the toughest schedule and are rated number 1 with the computers. It's funny how nobody questions USC and their number 1 rating this year. In my opinion they are the weakest link of the three. It wouldn't surprise me if Notre Dame or UCLA jumped up and beat them before the end of the year.truelyhandicapping said:
