8/24 Overnight MLB Discussion

[gynecologist]

<TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=650 border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#f97f19><TD class=lineheader vAlign=top align=left colSpan=2>MLB Baseball Game</TD><TD class=lineheader vAlign=top align=middle>Run Line</TD><TD class=lineheader vAlign=top align=middle>MLine</TD><TD class=lineheader vAlign=top align=middle>Total Runs</TD><TD class=lineheader vAlign=top align=middle colSpan=2>Team Total Runs</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#17654b><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>MONDAY</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 1:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>951</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Philadelphia Phillies
C Lee -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ -165</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-265</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 -110</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>952</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>New York Mets
B Parnell -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ +145</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+235</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 -110 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 4:35 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>953</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Milwaukee Brewers
Y Gallardo -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ -120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-172</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 ½ -125</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>954</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Washington Nationals
C Balester -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ +100</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+162</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 ½ +105 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 8:40 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>955</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>San Francisco Giants
B Zito -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -140</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+154</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 9 ½ +100</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>956</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Colorado Rockies
J Marquis -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-164</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 9 ½ -120 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 7:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>957</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Tampa Bay Rays
J Niemann -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -190</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+130</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 7 ½ -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>958</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Toronto Blue Jays
R Halladay -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +160</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-140</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 7 ½ -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 7:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>959</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Chicago White Sox
J Contreras -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -130</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+168</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 10 -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>960</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Boston Red Sox
C Buchholz -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +110</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-178</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 10 -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 8:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>961</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Cleveland Indians
J Sowers -L </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -210</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+101</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 9 -120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>962</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Kansas City Royals
G Meche -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +175</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-111</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 9 +100 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 8:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>963</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Baltimore Orioles
C Tillman -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 9 -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>964</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Minnesota Twins
S Baker -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ -115</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-220</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 9 -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 10:05 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
(ESPN2)</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>965</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Detroit Tigers
J Verlander -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -190</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+112</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 ½ -105</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc><TD vAlign=top align=left>966</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Los Angeles Angels
Jer Weaver -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +160</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-122</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 ½ -115 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left colSpan=7>Monday, August 24, 2009 10:10 PM PREVIEW MATCHUPS INJURIES | STANDINGS | WEATHER
</TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>967</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Oakland Athletics
V Mazzaro -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+1 ½ -200</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>+110</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>O: 8 ½ -120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top align=left>968</TD><TD vAlign=top align=left>Seattle Mariners
I Snell -R </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-1 ½ +170</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>-120</TD><TD vAlign=top align=right>U: 8 ½ +100 </TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD><TD vAlign=top align=right></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

 

[gynecologist]

I love the Under in the White Sox/Red Sox game.. White Sox do not manufacture runs, Red Sox are coming off emotional series w hated rivals, could be flat..

Don't really like the card but think there are a couple of decent dogs.. SF at almost 8/5 is generous, also think the over in the Cleveland game looks enticing..


Any other thoughts?

 

[NYOrange]

I like the Red Sox RL. They roughed the Tigers up after that embarrassing series at Yankee Stadium earlier this month. Buch making his third start at home where he has pitched pretty well. Not likely Contreras puts together back to back good starts...in which he did last time out against KC. Not exactly a trend to call home about...but its true.

Over has been hot out in Washington

 

[MTL_Expos2003]

I'm leaning towards the Red Sox. The whole 4 game series against the White Sox looks interesting... Wanted to take the Phils at first but -265 is too expensive, and I don't really trust the RL, as I've seen people on this board get pissed with the amount of one-run games out there.

That Angels/Tigers game looks interesting too...

 

[jordan17]

its always good to fade nyy & bos after their tuff series vs each other...cws seems like good value...@)

 

[TheHungerForMore]

I already made a thread, but since you're more well-known and we're probably get more thoughts and opinions, i won't bump it.

Ian Snell main troubles was command before getting sent down to the minors, but has gotten better. The reasoning of why his two home starts are bad is because of the level talent, potent and patience line ups that fest of pitchers of his style. Tonight's match-up bodes well for him as the A's being close to the bottom of the list in walks in the month of August in walks with 56. Now he should be riding some confidence since out pitching Verlander on the road, and will be facing one the weakest line up since joining the Mariners.

Don't be fooled by Mazzaro recent stats numbers he has been flirting with trouble. He isn't back to June form where he was striking hitters out, and limiting their hits to an average of five. He's only K'ed four in his last three outings, with allowing an average of eight hits and hasn't gone passed the fifth inning. While getting hit at high clip by both sides of the place (.318 LHB. 328 RHB). Yes, Mariners do have a weak hitting club, but against a pitcher whose simply not dominating and fooling hitters and seems either lost confidence or the league has figured him out they can tack on runs.

 

[gynecologist]

my bad, I looked for your thread but couldn't find it..

I only started it cause I thought you were busy tonight or something.

 

[TheHungerForMore]

I love the Under in the White Sox/Red Sox game.. White Sox do not manufacture runs, Red Sox are coming off emotional series w hated rivals, could be flat..

Don't really like the card but think there are a couple of decent dogs.. SF at almost 8/5 is generous, also think the over in the Cleveland game looks enticing..


Any other thoughts?

You don't come out flat when you're fighting for a wild card spot that is a tight race, and just got your ass kicked.

 

[TheHungerForMore]

Interesting the market has pushed the Rays price up. Its clear Halladay is unhappy and may be affecting him on the mound dealing with being unmotivated.

Any thoughts on that game?

 

[gynecologist]

Still on top, still a lot of games left.. They definitely can still come out flat.

 

[averageg]

I want to try the Phi/Nym game but I'm afraid it's one of those games where it'll be a one run win by the huge fave. Betting on the Mets will win big but the chances of them winning are too slim. What do you guys think of the Over 8? Lee is bound to give up more than a couple of runs I think...and Phillies are hitting Parnell decently this season.

 

[gynecologist]

Both Phils and Mets are hitting.. How long can Lee be this good??

 

[gynecologist]

Mets are throwing a rag out there..

 

[dopenose420]

My lean would be the over in that game...and that is the only play I would give a look at. Phillies RL is way to pricey, IMO.

 

[TheHungerForMore]

He'll choke in the post-season.

 

[MTL_Expos2003]

Hmm I don't know about the over in the Phils game... Lee has been almost unhittable by the other teams... I think the Phils will win by a run, but the RL is too risky... ML is the way to go but it's way too expensive... i'll stick with the Red Sox tommorow

 

[TheWinningWager]

Phils RUN LINE -- Until proven otherwise you have to ride Lee. He has been to dominant in the NL and the Mets lineup is horrible. Phils by 6 tomorrow..

 

[fugazi]

Nothing really screams value to me except Weaver at home at a decent price, but shit he's going against Verlander so it's not really a good price. I'd wait on that game as I think the line will move down.
Best value is on Angels.
Other games I'd like are Red Sox but no fucking value in that game and a dangerous bet, only other bet I like valuewise is Seatle.
Not a good card tommorrow, little value, this is the time of the year to become very selective, value is scarce and upsets are more prevelant.
I do like Tampa BAy here, I don't think Holliday is motivated and Tampa always plays him tough.

 

[barman]

BAL and SEA very solid risk/reward ratios

Nice summary by HungerFM on the Seattle matchup and it should be noted they are 6-2 in first game off Road. PPub mate SCOTT L has a nice Angle also that Seattle in overall Game1s at Home are about 80% getting results directly inverse to their preceding game - in this case a loss at Cleveland

Oh, and Oakland in Game1s Away this season a meager 5-14

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Regarding the Baltimore selection...though they've been tedious for the most part on the road this season, they have managed to go 8-12 in Game1s

Meanwhile, first game Off the road for Minnesota was a 12-1 last year, but they're just 5-5 so far this year.

And Twins only allowed three runs Sunday. In their past 20 games After Allowing 3orless, Minnesota is an ugly 6-14

 

[barman]

BAL and SEA very solid risk/reward ratios

Nice summary by HungerFM on the Seattle matchup and it should be noted they are 6-2 in first game off Road. PPub mate SCOTT L has a nice Angle also that Seattle in overall Game1s at Home are about 80% getting results directly inverse to their preceding game - in this case a loss at Cleveland

Oh, and Oakland in Game1s Away this season a meager 5-14

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Regarding the Baltimore selection...though they've been tedious for the most part on the road this season, they have managed to go 8-12 in Game1s

Meanwhile, first game Off the road for Minnesota was a 12-1 last year, but they're just 5-5 so far this year.

And Twins only allowed three runs Sunday. In their past 20 games After Allowing 3orless, Minnesota is an ugly 6-14