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I have very few personal rules or policies but some of them that were hammered into me by people I grew up around include (in no particular order and I am sure there are others):

- i wont drink alcohol through a straw
- shoes should always match belt, socks should match pants, never tuck a shirt in without a belt
- never watch a buddy get beat/jumped

Since then I have added an important one to the list:
- no 6/5 blackjack

It makes me very sad that 6/5 has spread to downtown. No one should play this game. That is the only way that it will stop spreading....

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6:5 blackjack. Oh, 6:5 blackjack.

Why we hate 6:5 blackjack

Let’s keep it simple. When a casino pays 6:5 on blackjack instead of the traditional 3:2, you get paid less money when you get a natural blackjack. The difference is getting paid $12 for a $10 wager on a 6:5 game vs. getting paid $15 for a $10 wager on a 3:2 game. Depending on other rules of the game,
this can push the house edge from about 0.43% to 1.88%. That’s a huge shift in odds. You can play with this blackjack calculator to see the house edge in any blackjack game.

6:5 blackjack on the Vegas Strip
Our pal @JohnMehaffey (he's a great follow on Twitter) has confirmed rumblings we've heard thatMGM Grand has switched 25 blackjack tables from 3:2 to 6:5. Even some of their video blackjack machines (like this) pay 6:5 when you’re dealt blackjack. MGM Grand had some of the better blackjack games available on the Vegas Strip until this change.
He also reports that recent visits to Paris and Bally’s show no 6:5 games. Last year, we told you about a sweet 3:2 game at Bally’s and it looks as though they’re continuing the idea of good blackjack.

6:5 Blackjack in Downtown Vegas

Downtown Vegas is often where gamblers go for the best odds in Las Vegas. That may not be the case for much longer. Four Queens and Binion’s have been dealing up 6:5 blackjack for a while now. Binion’s turned that tide for a couple of days with the short-lived Throwback Blackjack promotion, but they’re back to normal again. Now, Downtown Grand is getting into the 6:5 game.
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Let's welcome Downtown Grand into the Blackjack Wall of Shame. Double deck now pays 6-5 with $15 min. Couple of shoe tables have 6-5 felts.
5:21 PM - 9 Mar 2015

</center>6:5 blackjack isn’t the normal payout for blackjack in Downtown Vegas, but that could change in the future. Resort fees weren’t the normal occurrence in Downtown Vegas hotels just a couple years ago, either. You might want to begin checking the placards to see what blackjack pays before sitting down at the blackjack table no matter where you’re playing.

http://www.vegaschatter.com/story/2015/4/1/19931/70144/vegas-travel/An+Update+On+6%3A5+Blackjack
 
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I will drink alcohol through a straw in a bar. Like they really wash glasses. They dip them into water if that. Think of how many lips have been on an average bar glass. It's never effected my pussy getting ability if I have any.
 

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There are a few places that do this in Reno, but they let you double down on any two cards (single deck) not a good trade off IMO. I only play single deck 3/2, double down on 10/11. I think Tahoe is all like that.
 

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I will drink alcohol through a straw in a bar. Like they really wash glasses. They dip them into water if that. Think of how many lips have been on an average bar glass. It's never effected my pussy getting ability if I have any.

I hear ya. I am not even trying to get pussy (married with kids), just one of those things that I learned early on and likely will never change. Sometimes the waitresses catch on once they see the accumulation of plastic on the cocktail napkin sitting on the bj table and stop bringing them. It is the first thing I do, give it a stir and set it down next to the glass.
 

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There are a few places that do this in Reno, but they let you double down on any two cards (single deck) not a good trade off IMO. I only play single deck 3/2, double down on 10/11. I think Tahoe is all like that.

I've been looking to get up there for a few days but havent pulled the trigger. Maybe this summer. Have vegas on the calendar for 3 days in April and 2-3 in May but want to mix it up a bit.
 
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This goes along some of the same thing but I have never been a big weed guy at all but I see people do it. Amazing the amount of guys who will pass around a saliva heavy joint with no problem. Disgusting.
 

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NOBODY should play a single cent at any 6:5 blackjack games. If you do so in Vegas..... you have got to be a moron....... too many games available to ever get hosed like that.

Furthermore........ NOBODY should give a single cent worth of business in ANY way to ANY hotel that deals ANY 6:5 blackjack. (ANY way meaning no slots, food, beverage, shops)....... NOT a CENT in ANY way!
 

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I know a place in Topaz in the middle of nowhere in Nevada, about an hour from Yosemite and totally worth it if you're already out that way. Single deck, double down after splitting, surrender, 5 card charlie, and 3/2 BJ, limits are only $300, but it's a nice little casino with great BJ rules.
 

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Why would limits be $300? It is still a -EV game

It's a very small casino with only two tables in the middle of no where, that's my guess.
 

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I know a place in Topaz in the middle of nowhere in Nevada, about an hour from Yosemite and totally worth it if you're already out that way. Single deck, double down after splitting, surrender, 5 card charlie, and 3/2 BJ, limits are only $300, but it's a nice little casino with great BJ rules.


I would be willing to bet that if you get on a little run at the $300 level......... they will run your ass out of there ASAP!
 

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I hate seeing that 6.5 blackjack.i will not play it and told pit bosses that offered me a seat ,NO WAY it's a ripoff.i sat down at the riveria two weeks ago just to get some memorable chips due to it closing and being one of the last famous casinos left and without even knowing I sat at a 6.5 blackjack table but it was only to play a couple hands.it was funny when I hit a BJ I jumped all over the dealer saying you didn't,t pay me enough and then I seen why,but I never lost a hand as I was 5 for 5 and then just quit and cashed in.
 

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NOBODY should play a single cent at any 6:5 blackjack games. If you do so in Vegas..... you have got to be a moron....... too many games available to ever get hosed like that.

Furthermore........ NOBODY should give a single cent worth of business in ANY way to ANY hotel that deals ANY 6:5 blackjack. (ANY way meaning no slots, food, beverage, shops)....... NOT a CENT in ANY way!

Sooo you're sqying we shouldn't play 6:5 Blackjack orrr....
 

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Reading this thread I had to double check the date about three times. It's just hard to fathom all these responses were just made this week. I kept looking at the date expecting the pots to be from 2005 or something.

6:5 BJ sucks but it is now well established and not a new concept. It's pretty much here to stay it seems.

Remember also that the big vegas resorts make a much higher percentage of the profits from non-gambling business then they did 20 years ago. Even on the gambling side Blackjack is just a small percentage.
 

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Reading this thread I had to double check the date about three times. It's just hard to fathom all these responses were just made this week. I kept looking at the date expecting the pots to be from 2005 or something.

6:5 BJ sucks but it is now well established and not a new concept. It's pretty much here to stay it seems.

Remember also that the big vegas resorts make a much higher percentage of the profits from non-gambling business then they did 20 years ago. Even on the gambling side Blackjack is just a small percentage.

the reason for my post is that after having reared its ugly head on the strip a long time ago, it is now making its way to downtown/off-strip

spreading across town like a bad STD
 

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Harrahs ( now Caesars corp) invented it and they are now bankrupt. Must be a great idea right?
 

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I have also read they are letting their lesser properties turn to shit. They should have scaled back growth lots quicker...... and now are headed in the tank. Hope they eat shit going forward with their 6/5.
 

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its greed. its contempt for the customers, treating them like mindless idiots. Not a path to corporate success.

the house has an edge, no need to gouge. most players are bad/drunk/not serious anyway.

They already have the ability to ban from the property counters anyway.

no need to not let the suckers money last a bit. its just dumb greed
 

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