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I'm pretty sure this is a gray area but wanted to see what you guys thought

USA Softball got suspended in the 4th and will resume today, the following was graded...

<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>Wager Type:</TD><TD>Spread (or run line)</TD></TR><TR><TD>Wager Status:</TD><TD>Cancelled</TD></TR><TR><TD>Risk / To Win Amount:</TD><TD>120.00 / 100.00 (USD) Accepted 8/13/2008 10:55 PM - EST</TD></TR><TR><TD>Refunded: </TD><TD>120.00</TD></TR><TR><TD> </TD></TR></TD></TR><TR><TD>Sport / Period:</TD><TD>Softball Baseball / Game </TD></TR><TR><TD>Line:
</TD><TD>Canada 8/14/2008 0:00:01 AM - (EST)
+4½ -120</TD></TR><TR><TD>Opponent:</TD><TD>USA </TD></TR><TR><TD>Pitchers:</TD><TD></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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5 dimes baseball/softball policy...no mention of olympics

Baseball Wagering
Baseball game moneyline and first 5 inning wagers have the following pitcher options:​

Listed Pitchers: Both listed pitchers must start for moneyline wagers to have action. You have no action if either or both pitchers do not start the game. All baseball total and run-line wagers are listed pitchers only.
List One Pitcher: The pitcher you specify must start for moneyline wagers to have action. You have no action if your specified pitcher does not start the game. If the pitcher opposing your selected pitcher is changed, the moneyline price will be computed with revised odds based on the new pitcher. This wagering option is available only over the phone.
Action: All moneyline wagers have action. However, if there is a pitching change, the moneyline price will be computed with revised odds based on the new pitchers.​
Baseball games are considered official after 5 innings of play (4½ if the home team is winning). If a game is called or suspended after 5 innings, the winner is determined by the score after the last full inning of play - unless the home team scores to tie or takes the lead in the bottom half of the inning. The winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. When betting on baseball totals or run-lines, the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is winning).

First 5 inning lines are graded at the end of the 5th inning. All 5-inning wagers have action at that time, regardless whether the game is completed. The following propositions have action at the time they occur, regardless whether the game is completed or official: 1st 5 inning wagers, team to score first, 1st inning wagers or any wager involving a team or player to achieve an outcome first. The following propositions will be graded NO ACTION if a game does not go 8½-9 innings and is an official completed game on that day: team statistical match-ups, player match-ups (including total bases), team total runs, H-R-E wagers, or any wager involving an over/under format.

Both players must START for action in total base wagering. Single=1 point, Double=2 points, Triple=3 points, HR=4 points, (Walks & Stolen Bases do not count). Player with the most points in the game is the winner.
Regular season series wagers have action as long as a minimum of two games are completed. Only the first three games of any series count for wagering purposes. Once a team wins two games in a series, the series will be graded at that time.

Pitcher strikeout props are for strikeouts thrown only unless otherwise noted.

Any baseball, softball, or little league game ending early as a result of a mercy rule will have action on all wagers (unless otherwise noted).
The Baseball Grand Salami has no action if any game is rained out or final in less than 8½ innings.

NCAA baseball, NCAA softball, and youth league tournament games have action regardless of their starting/completion date.​
 

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the two paragraphs in question

NCAA baseball, NCAA softball, and youth league tournament games have action regardless of their starting/completion date.

baseball....
The winner is then determined by the score at the time the game is called. When betting on baseball totals or run-lines, the game must go 9 innings (8½ if the home team is winning).
 

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How do you think this should've been graded? I obviously would like the bet to stand (since Canada is up 1-0 in the 4th).....

There is no olympic precedent it seems.

I received this from 5dimes

Dear xxx:

The General Manager considered the situation and the bet was graded as NO ACTION.

If you have any more questions regarding this or any other matter, don't hesitate to contact us using our email, live chat or phone services.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with.

Sincerely,

Tatiana
5Dimes Casino & Sportsbook
Customer Service
1-800-305-3517


Did everyone (or anyone) have the bet graded the same? Has anyone had a 5dimes bet similar to this graded differently?
 

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Check out any of the thousand questionable 5D grading threads.

They will take shots on anything remotely questionable or subject to any slight interpretation (including their own failure to post notes on a wager).

Unless you can find someone on the other side, you can't tell if they cancelled all (based on the alleged ruling alone or the fact they are holding more Canada action), or just cancelled your side (full on theft), but hey, even if they are caught and you have screenshots of both sides, they can simply say, "Oh, grading error, we'll fix it..GTFO."
 

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Yeah it sucks

anyone get the other side on this?

Their rules really only refer to "baseball" for 8.5 innings of action
 

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NCAA baseball, NCAA softball, and youth league tournament games have action regardless of their starting/completion date.

If NCAA Softball is graded this way, then Olympics should as well. What is the difference? I think you have a gripe.
 

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Well I emailed for a further explanation...

Tatiana,

Is it possible to get a further explanation of the ruling. It seems as if it was anything else but MLB (little league, ncaa softball, ncaa baseball) the bet would still be pending upon completion of the rest of the game tonight. I would (reasonably) assume that olympic softball would follow the only other softball rules mentioned in your guidelines.

Thanks in advance,

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got this back.....ha

Dear xxx:

The general manager decided to grade the bet as no action because we don't have an specific rule for this particular case.

If you have any more questions regarding this or any other matter, don't hesitate to contact us using our email, live chat or phone services.

Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with.

Sincerely,

Tatiana
5Dimes Casino & Sportsbook
Customer Service
1-800-305-3517
 

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