Wynn said:
I may have sort of mentioned that I would post this crap on a few forums
uppy: because if the way it was handled. I am not one to complain as with my job I know what it is like to hear someone ALWAYS say "I want to talk to your manager", god I hate that and I am the manager but this was wrong (IMO). I don't think you should be punished for line shopping, if so than I better get out of this.
They graded it a win, it's official. The worse part is thinking about people that don't stick up for themselves in something like this, that would just take it and lose because they don't any better. I know I would have itf it wasn't for places like the RX.
The manager that called was total class and said they never should have cancelled it and repeatedley said it wasn't a bad line. I apologized for getting mad and he was real nice.
Guys,
Sorry if I came across a little forward but was just a tad distraught over this. It just really caught me of guard espicially with no e-mail or anything. $500 hurts a little so I felt I had to speak up.
Just makes you nervous if you are line shopping and finding great lines. The worst part is I LOVE 5 Dimes during baseball season and I have refereed 2 people there and it's their ONLY sportsbook, that is how HIGHLY I think of them. I still do.
The manager that called was total class and said they never should have cancelled it and repeatedley said it wasn't a bad line. I apologized for getting mad and he was real nice.
Guys,
Sorry if I came across a little forward but was just a tad distraught over this. It just really caught me of guard espicially with no e-mail or anything. $500 hurts a little so I felt I had to speak up.
Just makes you nervous if you are line shopping and finding great lines. The worst part is I LOVE 5 Dimes during baseball season and I have refereed 2 people there and it's their ONLY sportsbook, that is how HIGHLY I think of them. I still do.
I don't know if you posted any of your intentions on here about the San Antonio game, but this isn't the best place to share your business. Sharing information is one thing, but you seem to volunteer too much information. Books know everything they need to know about us every time we sign up for a contest and voluntarily link them our acct #'s and posting handles.
Don't be naive is all I'm gettin at.
Don't be naive is all I'm gettin at.
You did realize it was a "off"line, and you did realize you could {probably} get away with it because it was {only 2 points off}. Lets be honest about this. I did the same thing with a tennis bet and saw their side of view and agreed it was wrong to do. especailly the wrong thing to do if your a long term winner, good way to get limits cut or booted.
Railbird said:
I will be completely honest. EVERY bet I make is a little off in some ways but 2 points and no e-mail is where I have a little problem. That edge I had is less than me finding a +3.5 in football when 3 is everywhere else, do they cancel those?
I just bet $1,100/$1,000 under 41 in the NFL tonite and the line is 40 at Pinny and 39.5 at Cris. My sole purpose is to try and middle most of it as I am predict line movement or at least I try to predict line movement. If I see a bad line (and when you stare at the screen all day, you see some bad numbers) I don't even mess with them but this is hardly a bad #. If they cancel this than will my Dallas -7.5 I got at another book be cancelled, game went to-10 ? or the the over 192.5 in the Dallas game, when total went to 197?
Not trying to be a pecker but come on, 2 points? This is my whole approach and if this was the case I would be getting 90% of my bets cancelled. Thankfully they handled it the right way.
Iceman said:
The problem is that you knew the line was way off. Every other book on the screen had the game at 9 or 9.5; you saw the 7 and jumped all over it. Nothing wrong with that, but 5dimes is one of the books that has no problem taking a shot at you if you are trying to take a shot at them.
Hopefully a lesson was learned. Scalping/middling isn't easy or risk-free, despite what the scalpers that infest this board say.
I guess this is the difference between a "bad line" and "mistake line". Bad lines are voidable; mistake lines are not. They probably din't mean to be hanging -7 when they did, but that doesn't in and of itself make it an objectively bad line.
Glad you got it positively resolved, Iceman. :toast:
Glad you got it positively resolved, Iceman. :toast:
Glad to know that this got resolved since this was more of a "mistake line" (as D2bets mentioned) than a rogue/bad line. Some pointed out about how "since you saw it was 9 across the board but one book showing 7, you have to expect some flack from the book for grabbing that line..."
My feeling is: the book CHOSE to post an early line and CHOSE to make it available (not putting it temporarily OTB or not available), and they see action pouring in, then they take it off board to "adjust to the majority". In that light, where has the bettor done wrong!? No matter if he's an eager scalper or a recreational bettor... it was not a "rogue line", period.
I also am the kind that strongly believes in the book providing any KIND OF COMMUNICATION in canceling a bet... even about 3 years ago, I bet a rogue line in NBA (Over 112 for Game between 2 high-scoring teams, prolly the Suns/Mavs) at wager-mall.com, and they kindly corrected the line to mean 212 & gave me a message upon my next time I logged in. Many books now have a message notification (although, I dunno about Pinny??) whenever you log in your account these days, so I hope it was a lesson learned for the book to provide notification.
Iceman, just wondering... I'm guessing you didn't get to grab Phoenix early line against Miami as you mentioned in another thread you got them at -10.5? (thegreek opened at -4 the day before but quickly pulled it off after 15-20 minutes... later, Pinny opened it at -7 and shot up to -9 then slowly upwards to -11/-12). I wonder if anyone got the opening line of -4 on Phoenix becuz it'd be interesting how thegreek graded it as a bad line or nah?
* CalvinTy
My feeling is: the book CHOSE to post an early line and CHOSE to make it available (not putting it temporarily OTB or not available), and they see action pouring in, then they take it off board to "adjust to the majority". In that light, where has the bettor done wrong!? No matter if he's an eager scalper or a recreational bettor... it was not a "rogue line", period.
I also am the kind that strongly believes in the book providing any KIND OF COMMUNICATION in canceling a bet... even about 3 years ago, I bet a rogue line in NBA (Over 112 for Game between 2 high-scoring teams, prolly the Suns/Mavs) at wager-mall.com, and they kindly corrected the line to mean 212 & gave me a message upon my next time I logged in. Many books now have a message notification (although, I dunno about Pinny??) whenever you log in your account these days, so I hope it was a lesson learned for the book to provide notification.
Iceman, just wondering... I'm guessing you didn't get to grab Phoenix early line against Miami as you mentioned in another thread you got them at -10.5? (thegreek opened at -4 the day before but quickly pulled it off after 15-20 minutes... later, Pinny opened it at -7 and shot up to -9 then slowly upwards to -11/-12). I wonder if anyone got the opening line of -4 on Phoenix becuz it'd be interesting how thegreek graded it as a bad line or nah?
* CalvinTy
This book has turned into a pile of shit. They screwed me horribly on a golf cut bet, even with ttinco trying to help me out. Now about 80 percent of the bets I make they move the line for no reason. These are not steam plays or anything either. Was my favorite book for a long long time, now they scared. Strange thing is I am down over 10 grand there on the calendar year and they still feel the need to screw me. Grading a winning golf cut bet wager as a loss and not fixing it is beyond wrong.
