2020 Trump O/U 306 Electoral votes

[REDEYE]

Just looked it up.

When I first told everybody here about Harris, she was +850 to win the Dem nomination. She is now +225, the favorite. Wake up, people, it is all about identity politics and she is perfect, a female 0bama.

Vs Trump, she will have the controlled media/Hollywood/social media machine behind her.

How can Trump attack her, or her policies? Anything he says will be racist, misogonist, baby-killer-on-the-border-ish, white supremist, ugly capitalist, and despite the fact that I despise her, she is very sharp, can be charming, she will be very tough for him in a debate.

I have said this before to you. If I had the convictions you have about 2020 . I would be all over the +500 you can get on Harris..Why don't you do it ? I thought Bush was a horrible president and didn't want him to win 2nd term.. So I bet him to win.. Something good was going to happen. Bush loses or I make some money.. You have the same option.. I never thought you were off on your Harris prediction for Dem nomination.. I have some bets at +600.. makes sense to me..Someone has to get nomination from that wacky field of candidates...

But you are so wrong about her winning over Trump.. Not with what she stands for.. She'll be easy pickings with debates.. Common sense people , and there are enough of them don't want to see the country go in that direction. Dems have shot there wad with Collusion , Kavanaugh , and using racism every other sentence..I actually think being black works against her in general election , after recent Obama failures.. its not going to work.. Not with this economy , not with a peacetime president... What are the policies that she will be backing that Americans will be attracted too... None is the answer..Trump doesn't lose any votes from 2016 , gains a lot of votes IMO in 2020... In some ways Hilary is a better candidate then Harris.....name recognition being one of them..

I will be looking for props for over anything over 270.. I think the election will be a cash cow for me

 

[REDEYE]

Trump was +220 to win election last year. now you're seeing -110 to -130...… Wake up people ! its about the policies stupid , not identity politics.

 

[Serbone]

Trump was +220 to win election last year. now you're seeing -110 to -130...… Wake up people ! its about the policies stupid , not identity politics.

Nope.

Identity politics is dominating.

Demographics.

I will give you an example:

• Texas:
• Look at the congressmen/women in office 15 years ago compared to now.
• Were the hispanic congressmen elected in Texas the last 15 years, especially most recently, elected because of their policies?

Do you think AA's will vote for Trump against a black woman like Harris? Because of policies?

 

[Serbone]

You are entitled to your opinion but you really need to stop looking under your bed before you go to sleep.

And my opinion is that you are naive as hell.

 

[Michelangelo]

Nope.

Identity politics is dominating.

Demographics.

I will give you an example:

• Texas:
• Look at the congressmen/women in office 15 years ago compared to now.
• Were the hispanic congressmen elected in Texas the last 15 years, especially most recently, elected because of their policies?

Do you think AA's will vote for Trump against a black woman like Harris? Because of policies?

I agree with you Serbone.

Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Texas are all being flooded by illegals. THose states were once solidly red not so long ago. But that is rapidly changing because of the influx of illegals.

And I agree that MOST AAs will vote for a black before policy. Hate to say it, but most have no clue that Trump's policies are in their best interest if they want to be productive citizens.

And the "racist" narrative is coming from all sides even though it is completely false. Trump is up against it. The working man is losing the country.

Where I don't agree with you is somehow holding Trump to blame. The man has been a one man machine with very few true allies.

 

[REDEYE]

Nope.

Identity politics is dominating.

Demographics.

I will give you an example:

• Texas:
• Look at the congressmen/women in office 15 years ago compared to now.
• Were the hispanic congressmen elected in Texas the last 15 years, especially most recently, elected because of their policies?

Do you think AA's will vote for Trump against a black woman like Harris? Because of policies?

Yes .. smart ones will. not all black women will vote for a fool like that. Trump will get more black vote then in 2016. He's proved himself

Texas will be in the win column.. sorry

 

[REDEYE]

Trump will pick up alot of votes who won't even admit their voting for Trump....the hidden voter I like to say

 

[Serbone]

You do not seem to understand my example of the unfortunate evolution in Texas, and that it is a result of identity politics, Hispanics voting in Hispanics. It is undeniably true, and there are examples all across our nation, and demogrpahics make it an unstoppable trend.

I think the GOP will hold Texas in 2020, but it is inevitable that it will go Democratic soon, it is just a matter of time, unless something changes.

Sure a few % of intelligent well informed AA's will vote for Trump, but overwhelmingly, if Harris is the nominee, brainwashed AA's, Hispanics, gays, Asians, Muslims, and Jews will vote for Kamala Harris like they did for Obama.

Trump needs to win or we will be a one party country by 2026, or so. Open borders, government healthcare.

To win Trump needs to do something BIG, prove sedition, corruption, spying on the part of the Democratic party; this is possible.

The way things are going right now, Harris will beat Trump.

 

[REDEYE]

You do not seem to understand my example of the unfortunate evolution in Texas, and that it is a result of identity politics, Hispanics voting in Hispanics. It is undeniably true, and there are examples all across our nation, and demogrpahics make it an unstoppable trend.

I think the GOP will hold Texas in 2020, but it is inevitable that it will go Democratic soon, it is just a matter of time, unless something changes.

Sure a few % of intelligent well informed AA's will vote for Trump, but overwhelmingly, if Harris is the nominee, brainwashed AA's, Hispanics, gays, Asians, Muslims, and Jews will vote for Kamala Harris like they did for Obama.

Trump needs to win or we will be a one party country by 2026, or so. Open borders, government healthcare.

To win Trump needs to do something BIG, prove sedition, corruption, spying on the part of the Democratic party; this is possible.

The way things are going right now, Harris will beat Trump.

I understand a lot … just don't agree with what you're saying... If Trump holds the black vote that he had in 16 or even adds to it , which I believe he will , it will be a blowout next November...…Harris being black can be a disadvantage , maybe not in the JV primaries , general election she will lose votes with a lot of minorities....not everyone is brainwashed... not enough anyway...You're kinda like the computer nerd that believes in a bunch of hypothetical stats...bet the 5/1 on Harris with those convictions.. I would . That's great value ….and spare me the copout of not wanting to bet on someone you dislike.. We all do it all the time in sports. I bet against my Ducks if I see the value..

 

[Serbone]

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[REDEYE]

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you need a nap

 

[Serbone]

you need a nap

And you need to understand what is really going on in this country...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNvgl38TLvI

 

[Serbone]

I agree with you Serbone.

Arizona, Nevada, Colorado, Texas are all being flooded by illegals. THose states were once solidly red not so long ago. But that is rapidly changing because of the influx of illegals.

And I agree that MOST AAs will vote for a black before policy. Hate to say it, but most have no clue that Trump's policies are in their best interest if they want to be productive citizens.

And the "racist" narrative is coming from all sides even though it is completely false. Trump is up against it. The working man is losing the country.

Where I don't agree with you is somehow holding Trump to blame. The man has been a one man machine with very few true allies.

Fair enough.

I have referred to him as "Serpico", totally surrounded by well organized corruption.

My beef with him is that he could have done a lot more to stop illegal immigration, the violent crime (assaults, rapes, kidnappings, murders = > 35,000 fiscal 2018, per ICE data), the hard drugs, the massive expense to our taxpayers are doing severe damage. He controlls the military, the military's #1 purpose is to protect us, to protect the borders, he should have made moves with the military long ago, and he should have played hardball with Mexico immediately (25% tariffs until they stop the invaders).

I am hoping he is holding back until he has a critical mass of decent judges, and has some loyal patriots in key positions, and now the the Mueller report is out, he can go after the spying and attempt by top Democrats to stop him from being elected, and then push him out of office when he was elected.

We shall see.





(there is a loose idea out there that the military cannot engage in law enforcement in the USA, that is not true at all)

 

[REDEYE]

And you need to understand what is really going on in this country...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNvgl38TLvI

a lot of things are going on in this country... But Harris is unelectable... You need to understand that..

 

[Dave007inVegas]

You do not seem to understand my example of the unfortunate evolution in Texas, and that it is a result of identity politics, Hispanics voting in Hispanics. It is undeniably true, and there are examples all across our nation, and demogrpahics make it an unstoppable trend.

I think the GOP will hold Texas in 2020, but it is inevitable that it will go Democratic soon, it is just a matter of time, unless something changes.

Sure a few % of intelligent well informed AA's will vote for Trump, but overwhelmingly, if Harris is the nominee, brainwashed AA's, Hispanics, gays, Asians, Muslims, and Jews will vote for Kamala Harris like they did for Obama.

Trump needs to win or we will be a one party country by 2026, or so. Open borders, government healthcare.

To win Trump needs to do something BIG, prove sedition, corruption, spying on the part of the Democratic party; this is possible.

The way things are going right now, Harris will beat Trump.

[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]It has already been proven. The only question is will the DOJ act. I hate to be cynical but my guess is no. [/FONT]

 

[Dave007inVegas]

a lot of things are going on in this country... But Harris is unelectable... You need to understand that..

None of them are electable. The platform they are running on is outrageously silly.

 

[REDEYE]

None of them are electable. The platform they are running on is outrageously silly.

Thats the big fatal flaw in Serbones theory.. They don't have a worthy candidate. Harris doesn't come close to filling the bill either , unless you're trying to convince yourself of it...Thats the dumb down version for him

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Thats the big fatal flaw in Serbones theory.. They don't have a worthy candidate. Harris doesn't come close to filling the bill either , unless you're trying to convince yourself of it...Thats the dumb down version for him

[FONT=Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Calibri,Geneva,sans-serif]Harris is currently the soup du jour. 6 months from now she will be a leftover.[/FONT]

 

[Serbone]

"None of them are electible" is a reaction by people like us who understand the issues (illegal immigration, economy, healthcare, military, social media monopolies, opiod epidemic, education, et al). But it is not true. Think... Obama was elected, was supported by the Dem globalist socialist machine.

Trump made a good speech last night, we think it was effective. BUT only a few million people saw it on Fox. There are 140 million voters. They mostly just heard/saw out of context versions of his speech that lied about what he said and smeared him. That is the problem.

Harris is much much more electible than Hillary to say she is not electible is naive in this environment, and the Dems will do anything it takes this time, will swarm on the swing states that Hillary ignored.

IMO the Dems + MSM + Hollywood + social media giants are slow playing it but will support Harris at some point and crush the rest of the pack. She will be made to be a superstar, sure it will make us sick but large masses of voters will believe it.

 

[REDEYE]

"None of them are electible" is a reaction by people like us who understand the issues (illegal immigration, economy, healthcare, military, social media monopolies, opiod epidemic, education, et al). But it is not true. Think... Obama was elected, was supported by the Dem globalist socialist machine.

Trump made a good speech last night, we think it was effective. BUT only a few million people saw it on Fox. There are 140 million voters. They mostly just heard/saw out of context versions of his speech that lied about what he said and smeared him. That is the problem.

Harris is much much more electible than Hillary to say she is not electible is naive in this environment, and the Dems will do anything it takes this time, will swarm on the swing states that Hillary ignored.

IMO the Dems + MSM + Hollywood + social media giants are slow playing it but will support Harris at some point and crush the rest of the pack. She will be made to be a superstar, sure it will make us sick but large masses of voters will believe it.

You're just repeating yourself at this point. We get your position. We'll just have to agree to disagree at this point.. .go bet Harris with these strong convictions. Something good happens with either outcome.. ..

One last time. Harris is unelectable.. thread will be bumped at the appropriate time