2017 Travers Stakes From The Spa.

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Tapwrit, the Belmont Stakes winner is the 7-2 morning line favorite for Saturday’s Grade 1 Travers Stakes presented by NYRA Bets and will leave from post four.

The Travers will be the first start for Tapwrit since his Belmont win and marks the third straight Grade 1 race for the Tapit colt. Following a respectable sixth in the Kentucky Derby, Todd Pletcher decided to skip the Preakness Stakes with Tapwrit, who then captured the Belmont with a two-length win.

The 4-1 second choice is West Coast, who drew post three. The son of Flatter enters off three straight wins, including the Easy Goer Stakes and the Grade 3 Los Alamitos Derby. While his recent form has been impressive, the Travers will present his deepest competition yet.

Good Samaritan, winner of the Grade 2 Jim Dandy in his dirt debut, is the third choice at 5-1. The Harlan’s Holiday colt drew post five next to the favorites. Good Samaritan has the advantage of recently obtaining a win over the Saratoga track, where he beat the Kentucky Derby and Preakness winners last out.

Always Dreaming will be looking for his first win since the Kentucky Derby as the 6-1 fourth choice from post seven. The Bodemeister colt tried to wire the Preakness field, but came up empty and faded to eighth. He was third last out in the Jim Dandy, beaten 5 ¼ lengths.

Irap, who enters off wins in the Grade 3 Ohio Derby and Grade 3 Indiana Derby, and Preakness winner Cloud Computing, last out fifth in the Jim Dandy, are 8-1 on the morning line. The one-two finishers of the Grade 1 Haskell Invitational, Girvin and McCraken, are 10-1 and 12-1 respectively.
 

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You have the 2 GOATS teaming up together on the 3 West Coast.

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Always Dreaming was a 1 hit wonder....He liked that wet track in the Derby.....Nothing since.



 

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Cloud Computing looked great in that Preakness.



 

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Tapwrit doesn`t impress me.....He beat garbage in the Belmont.

 

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[h=1]West Coast wins the Easy Goer Stakes.[/h]
 

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[h=1]Good Samaritan wins the Jim Dandy Stakes. [/h]
 

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Any kind of a speed dual and Good Samaritan can be the horse.

He can run you down in deep stretch at the Spa.
 

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7) Always Dreaming 6-1 (Bodemeister/Todd Pletcher) - After pairing up important victories in the Florida Derby and Kentucky Derby, this speedy colt was not able to live up to those lofty heights in either the Preakness or the Jim Dandy. He's also now 0-for-2 at Saratoga, although neither effort was poor enough to suggest that he dislikes the track. Despite the full field, there is not much speed in here at all, which should clearly give him the tactical edge. That factored with getting a lot out of his return effort in the Jim Dandy, and you'd have to say that the Derby winner is in with a real shot in here. They'll have to catch the Derby Winner

1) Cloud Computing 8-1 (Maclean's Music/Chad Brown) - If you can get over the fact that he finished last in the Jim Dandy, it was not all that bad a prep. Still lightly raced, and returning from a layoff after a tough Preakness win, he was right in the picture for second. Having said that, if you look past the Preakness, in which he got the perfect trip, he has yet to come close in his other three stakes appearances. It's always dangerous to dismiss Chad Brown at Saratoga, but he'll need to show marked improvement to win his second huge stakes race of the year. Needs to Bounce Back

12) Fayeq 20-1 (Malibu Moon/Kiaran McLaughlin) - Out of everyone in the field, this is the horse we know least about, and this year, that might be a good thing. A half-brother to the great Rachel Alexandra, he needed a few races in South Florida to learn his lessons, but he has looked good in New York while winning his last two against maiden and allowance company. The step up in class will be big, but he brings good tactical speed and some talent for a veteran trainer that knows how to win at Saratoga. Still, this test likely proves a bit out of his comfort zone. Rachel's bro is stepping up

6) Girvin 6-1 (Tale of Ekati/Joe Sharp) - If only he had not suffered a quarter crack before the sloppy Kentucky Derby, we might be talking about him as the clear leader of the division. A three-time graded stakes winner this year, his rallying win in the Haskell, after an excellent return in the Ohio Derby, was a thing of beauty. While his sire probably was better shorter, this one gives every indication of being able to handle the stretch-out to 1 1/4-miles. He seems to be thriving at Saratoga for his young trainer, and anything less than another strong effort would be a surprise. Big Threat to Pair Huge Summer Wins

2) Giuseppe the Great 20-1 (Lookin At Lucky/Nick Zito) - Despite edging by the two favorites late to be second in the Jim Dandy, you have to wonder if this guy truly wants ten furlongs. In a wide open race, the consistent son of a two-time champion may offer some value, but I will pass on the horse who I think only clunked up for second after the race was already lost. Not convinced by his Jim Dandy

5) Good Samaritan 5-1 (Harlan's Holiday/Bill Mott) - You can tell how wide open I see this race, by tabbing a 5-1 favorite. You may also be surprised who I believe will be the choice on Saturday, but I suspect that Jim Dandy win over the Kentucky Derby and Preakness winner will look awfully good to bettors. A solid turf horse before popping the cork in his dirt debut, it was a very strong effort that should set him up perfectly for ten furlongs over the same track. I have my doubts as to whether that race was truly as good as it looked, as perhaps both favorites just did not run near their best, but still, he must be respected to pull of the Spa double.Jim Dandy Repeat could win this

11) Gunnevera 12-1 (Dialed In/Antonio Sano) - The impressive winner of the Fountain of Youth seemed to fizzle in his next three starts, so it would be easy to dismiss him here. Perhaps the demanding schedule, on a horse who never seems to carry much weight, caught up with him. Freshened, and with a confidence building prep under his belt, we may see a better Gunnevera than we saw at Churchill Downs and Pimlico. If so, he's in with a chance. We know he likes the track from his late-running win in last year's Saratoga Special. Interesting Longshot

10) Irap 8-1 (Tiznow/Doug O'Neill) - The Doug O'Neill late developer has been getting better since he left Sunland Park back in March. A powerful, strapping son of a two-time Breeders' Cup Classic winner, Irap surprised very good horses in the Blue Grass, but winning on Saturday would be no surprise at all. After a disaster of a Kentucky Derby, he has come back with two sensational efforts. I suspect there will be those who dismiss him coming from the Ohio and Indiana Derbies, but those two wins were as good as anything I've seen yet from this crop. He still needs to prove it on the big stage, but I think he has a real chance to do just that. Top Choice in a tough, tough Travers

8) Lookin At Lee 15-1 (Lookin At Lee/Steve Asmussen) - Similar to Gunnevera, he could not live up to his top effort, in two subsequent tries in the Triple Crown. Given a break after a poor Belmont, he came back to rally for a decent, but non-threatening third against lesser in the West Virginia Derby. The Kentucky Derby, in which he rallied up the rail in the slop to grab second looks likely to be his seasonal highlight. I like other late-runners better. Only passes tiring horses in this one

9) McCraken 8-1 (Ghostzapper/Ian Wilkes) - It's well documented that this has been choice horse among the three-year-old males in 2017. Unfortunately, his two graded stakes wins came in lesser races. He had an excuse in the Derby, and his Haskell was very good, despite getting caught, but this might be his last chance to move to the top of the division. Perhaps he moved too soon in the Haskell, and a better timed ride could have won it, but it's hard to take anything away from the winner, Girvin. I believe he is one of the best in the division, and I am not sold that ten furlongs is out of the question, but it is still enough of a question for me to like a few others better this time.Has to prove he can handle Ten

4) Tapwrit 6-1 (Tapit/Todd Pletcher) - The Belmont winner is always a threat in the Travers, because we know that the demanding trip is in their wheelhouse. Add in a fair amount of tactical speed, and this son of Tapit should be one of my top choices on Saturday. Yet, he is not. I'm not crazy about having no prep between the Belmont and the Travers. It makes me wonder if he fights an underlying physical issue. I'm sure his connections would not run him if he was not sound, but anything that took away from having him at 100%, against this field, is something that makes me feel that he will fall short this time. No Preps since Classic Win

3) West Coast 8-1 (Flatter/Bob Baffert) - More than any other, this is the wild card of the 2017 Travers. It's hard to forget what a late-blooming Baffert-trainee did in last year's Mid-Summer Derby. I'm certainly not suggesting that this one is in the same league as Arrogate, but clearly his trainer knows how to develop a talented colt for classic distances. While his two stakes wins were impressive, I believe he benefited from a brutal pace in the Easy Goer and a weak field in the Los Alamitos Derby. He could be this good, but I'm willing to wager that the step up in class keeps him out of the winner's circle. The Travers Wild Card
 

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07/15/17West Coast 1stLos71 1/8 mDLos Alamitos Derby-G3 3 MWest Coast KlimtB Squared1:48.65
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06/10/17West Coast 1stBel21 1/16 mDEasy Goer 3 MWest Coast You're To BlameOutplay 1:41.50
05/20/17West Coast 1stSA81 1/16 mDAlwOC 3+ MWest Coast Magical MysteryGeneral Ike1:44.14
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04/15/17West Coast 2ndKee91 1/16 mDLexington-G3 3 MSenior InvestmentWest Coast No Dozing1:45.05
03/12/17West Coast 1stSA31 1/16 mDMSW 3 MWest Coast Fallstar Vow's Son 1:44.14
02/18/17West Coast 2ndSA41 mileDMSW 3 MBronze AgeWest Coast Glacier1:35.29

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07/15/17West Coast 1stLos71 1/8 mDLos Alamitos Derby-G3 3 MWest Coast KlimtB Squared1:48.65
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06/10/17West Coast 1stBel21 1/16 mDEasy Goer 3 MWest Coast You're To BlameOutplay 1:41.50
05/20/17West Coast 1stSA81 1/16 mDAlwOC 3+ MWest Coast Magical MysteryGeneral Ike1:44.14
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04/15/17West Coast 2ndKee91 1/16 mDLexington-G3 3 MSenior InvestmentWest Coast No Dozing1:45.05
03/12/17West Coast 1stSA31 1/16 mDMSW 3 MWest Coast Fallstar Vow's Son 1:44.14
02/18/17West Coast 2ndSA41 mileDMSW 3 MBronze AgeWest Coast Glacier1:35.29

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07/30/17Girvin1stMth121 1/8 mDHaskell Invitational-G1 3 MGirvinMcCrakenPractical Joke 1:48.35
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06/24/17Girvin2ndTdn81 1/8 mDOhio Derby-G3 3 MIrap GirvinUntrapped1:50.48
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05/06/17Girvin13thCD121 1/4 mDKentucky Derby-G1 3 MAlways DreamingLookin At LeeBattle Of Midway2:03.59
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04/01/17Girvin1stFG111 1/8 mDLouisiana Derby-G2 3 MGirvinPatchLocal Hero1:49.77
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02/25/17Girvin1stFG111 1/16 mDRisen Star-G2 3 MGirvinUntrappedLocal Hero1:43.08
02/04/17Girvin2ndFG51 mileTKeith Gee Memorial Stakes 3 MCowboy Culture GirvinHot Dad1:37.44
12/16/16Girvin1stFG86 fDMSW 2 MGirvinExcitations Hold Me Black 1:10.32

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07/30/17McCraken2ndMth121 1/8 mDHaskell Invitational-G1 3 MGirvinMcCrakenPractical Joke 1:48.35
06/17/17McCraken1stCD51 1/16 mDMatt Winn-G3 3 MMcCrakenColonelsdarktemperSociety Beau1:42.84
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05/06/17McCraken8thCD121 1/4 mDKentucky Derby-G1 3 MAlways DreamingLookin At LeeBattle Of Midway2:03.59
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04/08/17McCraken3rdKee101 1/8 mDBlue Grass Stakes-G2 3 MIrap Practical Joke McCraken1:50.39
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02/11/17McCraken1stTam101 1/16 mDSam F. Davis-G3 3 MMcCrakenTapwritState Of Honor1:42.45
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11/26/16McCraken1stCD111 1/16 mDKentucky Jockey Club-G2 2 MMcCrakenWild Shot Warrior's Club1:44.15
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10/30/16McCraken1stCD81 mileDStreet Sense 2 MMcCrakenBalandeenGuest Suite1:35.55
10/02/16McCraken1stCD56 1/2 fDMSW 2 MMcCrakenPure HeartHollow Point1:17.89

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07/15/17Irap 1stInD91 1/16 mDIndiana Derby-G3 3 MIrap ColonelsdarktemperUntrapped1:42.21
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06/24/17Irap 1stTdn81 1/8 mDOhio Derby-G3 3 MIrap GirvinUntrapped1:50.48
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05/06/17Irap 18thCD121 1/4 mDKentucky Derby-G1 3 MAlways DreamingLookin At LeeBattle Of Midway2:03.59
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04/08/17Irap 1stKee101 1/8 mDBlue Grass Stakes-G2 3 MIrap Practical Joke McCraken1:50.39
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03/26/17Irap 4thSun91 1/8 mDSunland Derby-G3 3 MHence Conquest Mo MoneyHedge Fund 1:48.10
02/26/17Irap 2ndSun91 1/16 mDMine That Bird Derby 3 MConquest Mo MoneyIrap Oh So Regal 1:43.12
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02/04/17Irap 2ndSA21 1/16 mDRobert B. Lewis Stakes-G3 3 MRoyal Mo Irap Sheer Flattery1:43.48
12/31/16Irap 4thSA61 1/16 mDMSW 2 MSheer FlatteryHonor And Courage Leading Score
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12/10/16Irap 2ndLos61 1/16 mDLos Alamitos Futurity-G1 2 MMastery Irap Dangerfield1:41.56

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