Id have to side with the under as well... I don't even see them making 9... If they do that's as many wins as they can get this year.
Im looking at an 8-8 team here
That is one tough division with New Orleans, Carolina, what will probably be a bounce-back Atlanta team, and improved Tampa team.
Don't think I could roll the dice on them winning 10...
an improved tampa team,..where do you see that,they are one of my best under futures on total wins,..they are horrible
I'm trying to be optimistic here, Key....lol
As a lifetime Bucs fan, I have learned to never expect much from this team.
But with Lovie Smith coming in, the return of Doug Martin, addition of WR Mike Evans opposite of Vincent Jackson, new QB Josh McNown throwing to them, I do see an improvement...
i hear ya hache,i wasn't trying to rain on your parade,but i don't see McNown as a answer at QB and i hear that martin is going to get help at RB to preserve him a bit,don't know how true that is but just what ive heard somewhere
Sure thing....
If I win, I want you to change you avatar to a gay white 20 year old sucking a big black guys schlong for a week lol
Was wondering when Chop would chime in lol.
Chop you don't think these teams could be knocking each other off this year?
Oh I know you weren't key, no problem buddy.
Honestly I'm usually pessimistic with this team.
Especially with the horrible defense the last couple of years.
And I agree about McNown long-term, but if throwing to these two big WR's Jackson & Evans is anything like him throwing to Marshall & Jeffery in Chicago, and if Doug Martin returns & stays 100% healthy to be the all-around back as Matt Forte on the Bears, I see a similarity & believe they might just outscore a few teams.
For once, since their dominant era when Dungy & Gruden were around, I'm being optimistic...
their division is going to be strong this season