.20 Baseball books

letsgohoosiers · Jul 17, 2009

I'm starting to get the impression that these books tell you a lot about games.

I'll illustrate.

Shown are results from today's games, and I'm looking at lines from The Greek, and Bookmaker.

The Greek and Bookmaker feature .20 lines for baseball. Don't play there for baseball, since your bankroll is depleted much quicker.

There are games in which they simply throw out lines that are WAY off. They're discouraging betting on these teams.

My suggestion? Bet on those teams. Bookmaker and The Greek are high volume books. When they don't want money on a team, it's a good thing.

seanjohn007 · Jul 17, 2009

where can you find stuff like this? ive always been interested in becoming a line reader (well more in depth) but the only good places ive found u have to pay a ton for. anyways thanks for the info

sean

letsgohoosiers · Jul 17, 2009

seanjohn007 said:
where can you find stuff like this? ive always been interested in becoming a line reader (well more in depth) but the only good places ive found u have to pay a ton for. anyways thanks for the info

sean

I use SBRlines.com (free) because I don't feel like forking over $99/mo for Don Best, $200/mo for G&J, $99/mo for SportsOptions, or $79/mo for SportsInsights.

I'm contemplating creating my own software. Most of these books have XML feeds you can use.

RDC-3 · Jul 17, 2009

at about what time do u get the lines?Thanks

Club · Jul 17, 2009

Can you quantify this any more? I always assume that The Greek odds should roughly be 10 cents worse than Matchbook. Do you agree? About how much worse should The Greek and/or Bookmaker odds be to signal a possible play in your opinion?

Hip2Bsq · Jul 17, 2009

So.... just to make sure I am on the same page, the only line from the example that was way off and did not win was the Dodgers?
Atl = w

cubs = w

Cle = w but that line is really that far off, still maybe an indicator.

Mil = w worst line on the dog as far as those 4 books, the line on Cincy about equal. Someone line shopping for the Brewers most likely bets it somewhere else with a better plus price.

Phil/FLA really no indications.

COL = w

LAA = w same situation as the Brewers above.

LAD = L

You could have gone 6-1 last night, with action on every game except the Phil/FLA.

Wow · Jul 17, 2009

This very same idea also works great during the early NFL season too.
I also noticed that with Books that have "higher than 5%" ON the day that they supposed to have reduce 5% juice.
This two "ideas" when line up at game time, tend to produce a lot of winners..... BOL....

Club · Jul 17, 2009

Hip, that's not how I read it. First, the only odds that are way off to me are the numbers for Atlanta, again assuming Matchbook is usually roughly 10 cents off from other books like The Greek, i.e. -210 vs -186.

The Cubs line is off a little if 4 cents qualifies, -132 vs -118.

As for Clev, I think you are on the wrong side of that one. The Clev odds are off but to the other side so The Greek and Bookmaker actually want action on Clev. You would actually want to play Seattle here according to what Hoosiers says because the odds are 3 or 7 cents worse than they should be, depending on if you use The Greek or Bookmaker as your reference point.

The Mil odds are just right between Matchbook and The Greek and 2 cents off between Matchbook and Bookmaker. I'm not sure that would be a play.

The Phi/FL game looks like it clearly indicated towards taking Phil. At +111 on matchbook, it should have been +101 at The Greek yet the Greek had it much worse at -105. They don't want you to take Phil so take Phil.

I agree Col was indicated by 6 and 4 cents, respectively.

The Angels were indicated.

The Dodgers were indicated on Bookmaker but not really on The Greek, just a 2 cent differential.

I may be reading this wrong. And, of course, there is the issue of at what point do we compare these odds, near opening, right before the game starts or some time in between.

Hip2Bsq · Jul 17, 2009

Thanks Club,

I see where I misread in regards to Philly and Cle. I agree also that the LAD could have been eliminated.

As far as the time when we should look at this, I am going to guess about 5 minutes before game time.

We need to ask LGH what time the screenshot is from.

Hip2Bsq · Jul 17, 2009

Wow said:
This very same idea also works great during the early NFL season too.
I also noticed that with Books that have "higher than 5%" ON the day that they supposed to have reduce 5% juice.
This two "ideas" when line up at game time, tend to produce a lot of winners..... BOL....

How have you been WOW?

I am thinking this would work with NHL as well.

I found some good stuff for NFL that I thought you would be interested in, we will have to get together prior to preseason.

sparticus · Jul 17, 2009

I used to use almost the same system back in the early/mid 90's [before p/c's & offshore were in much use] with great success. I used the mirage & hilton & compared them to the stardust lines, i compared lines & made my final plays as close to game time as possible, gl.

Hip2Bsq · Jul 17, 2009

Sparticus,

If you were in Vegas NOW, would you still compare Mirage and Hilton? I usually bet @ Leroys because its easy to get to for me and the number is usually one of the best. Hilton is hard to get to on a regular basis. Do you think that is still a good way to go? I would rather make the majority of my wagers at the brick and mortor books.
Thanks for any info. BOL

ZJP6050 · Jul 17, 2009

hip - paltalk buddy?

Hip2Bsq · Jul 17, 2009

Hey ZJP hows the injury? Ready to type?

I will open it up, drop on in.

I am making some breakfast, lol.

Hamilbet · Jul 17, 2009

removed

34islucky · Jul 17, 2009

Great work LGH. I really have enjoyed your line reading insight.

letsgohoosiers · Jul 17, 2009

Hip2Bsq said:
We need to ask LGH what time the screenshot is from.

Screenshot was from around 3:00am. Those lines are the closing lines.

It may have been a fluke night BECAUSE this almost contradictory to what I've been doing - betting lines that are better than Matchbook's lines at books; which is now 545-408 +$16,187.

However, that almost never features a "play" from Bookmaker, The Greek, or other .20 shops because the line would have to be off by much more.