20,000 Friendly Muslims Attack Christian Church in Cairo

[festeringZit]

One thousand Christians were today trapped inside the Coptic Orthodox Church of the Virgin Mary in West Ain Shams,Cairo, after more than twenty thousand Muslims attacked them with stones and butane gas cylinders. The Church's priest Father Antonious said that the situation is extremely dangerous.
The Muslim mob that attacked the church blocked both sides of the street and encircled the church building, broke its doors and demolished its entire first floor. The mob were chanting Jihad verses as well as slogans saying "we will demolish the church" and "We sacrifice our blood and souls, we sacrifice ourselves for you, Islam", while the entrapped Christians chanted "Lord have mercy".
The incident started on the occasion of the inauguration of the Church today, when the Muslims hastily established a Mosque in the early hours of this morning, by taking over the first floor of a newly-built building facing the Church and started praying there.
When the security forces tried to disperse the mob, they went to nearby homes and shops owned by Christians, and were armed with sticks, butane, knives and other sharp objects. Witnesses said the mob included children from as young as 8-years old to men of over 50-years old, in addition to women.
The Church building was originally a factory that was adapted into its present state, the matter which took over five years to complete and to get the necessary permissions from the authorities to have a Church established.
Human rights organizations and lawyers were refused entry into the besieged Church.

 

[GasMan]

Zit..I dont know why you think its Muslims who are the problem.

It is obviously Bush and his fearmongering security council that have caused these problems around the world with these people.

The best thing we can do is just bring our troops home and save some money for the USA.

 

[festeringZit]

Zit..I dont know why you think its Muslims who are the problem.

It is obviously Bush and his fearmongering security council that have caused these problems around the world with these people.

The best thing we can do is just bring our troops home and save some money for the USA.

According to people like Preussen and Fletcherism, there are just as many
Christians killing Muslims. Amazing what a little ignorance and
kool-aid can do to a human brain.

 

[GasMan]

No joke Zit.

 

[GasMan]

Here comes the "Yeah, well Iraq was just a BIG LIE..."

In 3...2...1...

 

[Preussen]

According to people like Preussen and Fletcherism, there are just as many
Christians killing Muslims. Amazing what a little ignorance and
kool-aid can do to a human brain.

I do not defend events like this, never did (although I wouldn't mind getting some background information on this). But as you already speak of killings - none were reported, were they?
And I also never made an assertion about whether more Muslims are killed by Christians than the other way round (although if you count all the innocent Muslims the U.S. military killed it might well be true). All I did was challenge you to give me any numbers that show that the number of Christians killed by Muslims is in any way significant compared to the number of Christians killed by Christians and Muslims killed by Muslims. Predictably, you chose, as usual, not to reply.

Zit and Gas Man, you two are definitely two of the last people who should call others ignorant.

 

[barman]

It is obviously Bush and his fearmongering security council that have caused these problems around the world with these people.

The best thing we can do is just bring our troops home and save some money for the USA.

Here's a post with which few right thinking Americans could disagree

 

[mamatried]

I do not defend events like this, never did (although I wouldn't mind getting some background information on this). But as you already speak of killings - none were reported, were they?
And I also never made an assertion about whether more Muslims are killed by Christians than the other way round (although if you count all the innocent Muslims the U.S. military killed it might well be true). All I did was challenge you to give me any numbers that show that the number of Christians killed by Muslims is in any way significant compared to the number of Christians killed by Christians and Muslims killed by Muslims. Predictably, you chose, as usual, not to reply.

Zit and Gas Man, you two are definitely two of the last people who should call others ignorant.

GOOD GOD, man. Do you understand the difference between intentionally murdering people and collateral damage? Sure, it is tragic when innocents are killed anywhere. But only an idiot or a sympathizer would infer any moral equivalence between the reason most Muslims are killed by Christians as opposed to the opposite.

 

[festeringZit]

GOOD GOD, man. Do you understand the difference between intentionally murdering people and collateral damage? Sure, it is tragic when innocents are killed anywhere. But only an idiot or a sympathizer would infer any moral equivalence between the reason most Muslims are killed by Christians as opposed to the opposite.

I'd vote for both idiot and sympathizer.

 

[punter]

You are right Mama. I'm sure that we never intended to harm anyone when we bombed the holy fuck outta Iraq.

 

[Preussen]

GOOD GOD, man. Do you understand the difference between intentionally murdering people and collateral damage? Sure, it is tragic when innocents are killed anywhere. But only an idiot or a sympathizer would infer any moral equivalence between the reason most Muslims are killed by Christians as opposed to the opposite.

Where did I infer any moral equivalence? I just made some side point in brackets, and you can hardly dispute that someone who dies as 'collateral damage' is just as dead as one who was murdered.
Before responding in outrage you may want to understand what I'm actually writing about.

 

[Preussen]

I'd vote for both idiot and sympathizer.

Says the guy who always becomes silent when challenged to back up his positions and squeals about being stalked whenever I take the time to tear your arguments to shreds. Really, Zit, I can only pity you.

 

[mamatried]

Where did I infer any moral equivalence? I just made some side point in brackets, and you can hardly dispute that someone who dies as 'collateral damage' is just as dead as one who was murdered.
Before responding in outrage you may want to understand what I'm actually writing about.

OK - you tell me what you're writing about. What is the relevance as to which side kills more? The Germans lost nearly 10 times as many people as the US and Great Britain combined. Does that mean they were in the right?

 

[mamatried]

You are right Mama. I'm sure that we never intended to harm anyone when we bombed the holy fuck outta Iraq.

No sense rehashing old arguments, but if Saddam had cooperated with the weapons inspectors from the gitgo the whole thing could have been avoided.

 

[Preussen]

OK - you tell me what you're writing about...

I guess to understand my first post you have to know the thread "Friendly Christians at it again - Part 1", especially posts 15 and 19.

 

[kingbill]

I looked for a link at any of news sites...the only thing I could find is this

http://www.aina.org/news/20081126035704.htm

 

[Preussen]

I didn't find anything else, either. Makes one wonder. Of course Bombay catches the headlines but one'd assume there'd be at least some coverage about such an incident that happened two days ago.

 

[eek.]

I looked for a link at any of news sites...the only thing I could find is this

http://www.aina.org/news/20081126035704.htm

I'm curious, is it just me or are you recently acquiring a greater interest in international affairs?

 

[eek.]

I do not defend events like this, never did (although I wouldn't mind getting some background information on this). But as you already speak of killings - none were reported, were they?
And I also never made an assertion about whether more Muslims are killed by Christians than the other way round (although if you count all the innocent Muslims the U.S. military killed it might well be true). All I did was challenge you to give me any numbers that show that the number of Christians killed by Muslims is in any way significant compared to the number of Christians killed by Christians and Muslims killed by Muslims. Predictably, you chose, as usual, not to reply.

Zit and Gas Man, you two are definitely two of the last people who should call others ignorant.

And in english too...
You're far too intelligent to hang about in here, what's the appeal for you in this place??
(At the end of the day its a muppet zone)

 

[barman]

I'm curious, is it just me or are you (KBILL) recently acquiring a greater interest in international affairs?

Doubtful. Just reads like he's having his usual fun giving ZIT a cyber wedgie when he plays the Islamicphobe fool