Chuck Sims said:
Cmon Chucky, get real......."One of the worst" What a ridiculous statement. I was speaking in General..........Especially about the 3 team 10 pointers. Show me another book on 3 team 10 pointers at -110 in which not only do ties not lose, but they refer down.......
Can you come up with odds on how many times per football season, on a 2 team teaser, that you will push with one team and lose on the other?!? It does happen, of course, but why do you think this rule is offered at some books? Because the odds are against it.........
Hatche Man, you made the ignorant statement that "TCBets is the best teaser site for football...period". This book keeps the money on a 2-team teaser that results in a push & loss. Yet, on a win & push they say no action. Thats BIG TIME RIPOFF. Las Vegas grades a loss and a push as no action. Thats common knowledge by any sharp. It should be common knowledge by teaser players too. But thats why I am here, too educate. Take the info and use it to your advantage.
BTW, Carib has ties win teasers, so a win and a push would be graded a winner at Carib.
BTW, Carib has ties win teasers, so a win and a push would be graded a winner at Carib.
This below is from WSEX rules. A tie and a loss is a LOSS.
I agree with Chuckie Baby that at one time it wasn't that way, but it is now. Same with Millennium. And Carib no longer has Tie and win as a win. It's now a push. I don't know if any book has that anymore. Maybe ABC Islands, but I don't have an account there.
The only Book I could find that still has tie and loss as a push is Pinny, but they are -110, so if you make a 6.5 pt. teaser at one of the EV money shops, it's the same difference.
Some additional EV shops that haven't been mentioned are Hollywood, and 7 Palms.
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Parlay and Teaser Rules
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Ties Reduce. As of June 8th 1997, a tie in a parlay or teaser will reduce the number of plays in the parlay or teaser. For example, if a 4 play parlay/teaser has 2 ties, then it will become a 2 play parlay/teaser, and the payout will be recalculated based on the new number of plays. A 2 play parlay with 1 tie would reduce to a straight bet. In the case that a parlay is reduced to zero plays, or a teaser is reduced to 1 play, the entire wager will be cancelled and the bet amount will be refunded.
All propositions must cover for the parlay or teaser to be considered a win (Exception: ties reduce, see above). If any proposition loses, the entire parlay or teaser will be considered a loss.
I agree with Chuckie Baby that at one time it wasn't that way, but it is now. Same with Millennium. And Carib no longer has Tie and win as a win. It's now a push. I don't know if any book has that anymore. Maybe ABC Islands, but I don't have an account there.
The only Book I could find that still has tie and loss as a push is Pinny, but they are -110, so if you make a 6.5 pt. teaser at one of the EV money shops, it's the same difference.
Some additional EV shops that haven't been mentioned are Hollywood, and 7 Palms.
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Parlay and Teaser Rules
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Ties Reduce. As of June 8th 1997, a tie in a parlay or teaser will reduce the number of plays in the parlay or teaser. For example, if a 4 play parlay/teaser has 2 ties, then it will become a 2 play parlay/teaser, and the payout will be recalculated based on the new number of plays. A 2 play parlay with 1 tie would reduce to a straight bet. In the case that a parlay is reduced to zero plays, or a teaser is reduced to 1 play, the entire wager will be cancelled and the bet amount will be refunded.
All propositions must cover for the parlay or teaser to be considered a win (Exception: ties reduce, see above). If any proposition loses, the entire parlay or teaser will be considered a loss.
Chuck Sims said:
Yeah, you're truly a "sharp".............:nono5:
Are you making some sort of "challenge" to me?
Once again I ask you, since you ignored it the first time...
Why do you think some books offer that specific type of teaser.........??
Because the odds are against it and it doesn't happen often.
Yes, it will happen now and then, but to judge teasers on that rule alone is acually what shlould be considered "Ignorant" since that rule rarely comes into play.....
Here are the rules from BETPOP or Payoffs Plus, a division of First Fidelity sportsbook.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>World's Greatest Football Teaser Prices
</TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#0c344f><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="23%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR># of teams[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="14%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>6 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="20%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>6 1/2 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="22%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>7 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="21%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>10 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]2 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]even[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]10 - 11[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]10 - 11.5[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]3 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]9 - 5[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]8 - 5[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]3 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]10 -11[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]4 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]3 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]5 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]2 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]5 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]9 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]4 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]7 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]6 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]7 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]6 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]5 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdtext>And... In the most heavily played "Sweet Heart" 3 team 10 point teaser PayOffsPlus buries "The Other Guys" - we charge ONLY 10-11, versus the full charge sports books who charge 10-12 or even 10-13. (Any Tie Is A Loss)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
A "Tie" or "No Action" and a "Win" or a "Loss" on a two team teaser shall constitute a "No Action" wager. Ties on a three or more team teaser shall revert to the next lowest betting bracket.
Examples:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=3 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle>World's Greatest Football Teaser Prices
</TD></TR><TR><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=1 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR bgColor=#0c344f><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="23%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR># of teams[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="14%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>6 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="20%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>6 1/2 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="22%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>7 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD><TD vAlign=center align=middle width="21%">[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]<NOBR>10 pts[/font]</NOBR></TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]2 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]even[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]10 - 11[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]10 - 11.5[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff height=24>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]3 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]9 - 5[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]8 - 5[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]3 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]10 -11[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]4 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]3 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]5 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]2 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]5 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]9 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]4 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]7 - 2[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle width="23%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]6 teams[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="14%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]7 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="20%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]6 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="22%" bgColor=#cccccc>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]5 - 1[/font]</TD><TD align=middle width="21%" bgColor=#ffffff>[font=verdana,arial,helvetica]xx[/font]</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=tdtext>And... In the most heavily played "Sweet Heart" 3 team 10 point teaser PayOffsPlus buries "The Other Guys" - we charge ONLY 10-11, versus the full charge sports books who charge 10-12 or even 10-13. (Any Tie Is A Loss)</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
A "Tie" or "No Action" and a "Win" or a "Loss" on a two team teaser shall constitute a "No Action" wager. Ties on a three or more team teaser shall revert to the next lowest betting bracket.
Examples:
- A tie on a three team teaser becomes a two team teaser.
- A tie on a five team teaser becomes a four team teaser
stuckinvegas, the rule at BETPOP says, ""Sweet Heart" 3 team 10 point teaser PayOffsPlus buries "The Other Guys" - we charge ONLY 10-11...(Any Tie Is A Loss)".
In the next paragraph the rule states what happens in normal 3 team, and 4 team teasers in case of a tie.
If you look at payout odds that you posted, the 3-team 10 point teaser does not have a payout for a 2 team 10 point teaser. The reason is as stated in their rules, (Any Tie Is A Loss).
In the next paragraph the rule states what happens in normal 3 team, and 4 team teasers in case of a tie.
If you look at payout odds that you posted, the 3-team 10 point teaser does not have a payout for a 2 team 10 point teaser. The reason is as stated in their rules, (Any Tie Is A Loss).
