2 big plays wk one

[westcoastg]

Love the first three weeks of college foots have always made money then conference games start and it gets rough.
wk 1
1100-1000 bama
1100-1000 illinois
I will lay up to 7 on either game no problem and should get a much lower number on neutral fields.

Va Tech is a solid team year in and year out with beamer. That being said they do not have the athletes to compete with the top tier sec teams. I remember a few years back when they played lsu and it was like a college team vs a high school team. Va Tech will have a very hard time scoring. Bama brings back a top tier defense which was cracked only by the spread offense of utah and florida which had great qb. That being said Taylor can run but the guy is a career 55 percent passers. Va tech offense is so vanilla. They will not be able to run on bama. Bama was 2nd in the nation against the run and their front seven will be even better this year. Saban is loaded. So with the running game shut down will a 55 percent career passer be able to beat them. I think not.

I know bama returns only a handful of starters on offense, but there offense was not that good last year. That being said they will be going up against a good va tech d. They say va tech is loaded with speed, but I do not think they will have the speed to match bama. Saban has had two years to recruit so watch out.
Final Score Bama 24-6


Illinois what can you say they are loaded on offense but the defense is a question mark. Last year the score was 52-42 mizzou. This year illy brings back juice and company and mizzou loses most of there offense. That being said mizzou will not be able to stop illy. The question is can illy stop mizzou. I believe with a whole new offense the illy d will be able to make a few stops which will be all they need.
Final illy 49-27

 

[sdf]

good luck getting less than 7 on illy....i can only hope it's lower

i think vtech beats bama this year

 

[GoSooners]

Love the first three weeks of college foots have always made money then conference games start and it gets rough.
wk 1
1100-1000 bama
1100-1000 illinois
I will lay up to 7 on either game no problem and should get a much lower number on neutral fields.

Va Tech is a solid team year in and year out with beamer. That being said they do not have the athletes to compete with the top tier sec teams. I remember a few years back when they played lsu and it was like a college team vs a high school team. Va Tech will have a very hard time scoring. Bama brings back a top tier defense which was cracked only by the spread offense of utah and florida which had great qb. That being said Taylor can run but the guy is a career 55 percent passers. Va tech offense is so vanilla. They will not be able to run on bama. Bama was 2nd in the nation against the run and their front seven will be even better this year. Saban is loaded. So with the running game shut down will a 55 percent career passer be able to beat them. I think not.

I know bama returns only a handful of starters on offense, but there offense was not that good last year. That being said they will be going up against a good va tech d. They say va tech is loaded with speed, but I do not think they will have the speed to match bama. Saban has had two years to recruit so watch out.
Final Score Bama 24-6

I can understand your reasoning with Va Tech having got smacked pretty good by LSU in 2007 so Bama should be able to do the same thing. But comparing LSU of 2007 with Bama of 2009 is like comparing apples to oranges. Two SEC teams, but they are nothing alike. And neither is the situation surrounding the game. LSU was National Champs that season with a very good ofensive team, and played VT on their home field. This will be at a neutral site.. Bama was far from a dominant team last season and they didn't exactly win their games with their offense. I'm not saying that Bama isn't going to win against VT. But it's a mistake to base this game on another that was played two years ago by a completely different team. Not every team in the SEC was/is as good as that LSU team..Bama is a horse of a different color.

 

[westcoastg]

sdf you think tech beats bama tell me how is va tech going to score...they are a running team and bama was 2 in the nation against the run and they faced a lot better running teams than va tech...taylor a 55 percent career receiver how they going to score? if tech does not get a defensive td or special teams td how they going to score? i will tell you one thing no way in hell does va tech beat bama.. r u serious man

 

[westcoastg]

Sooners I am in no way saying this play is because of what lsu did to them two years ago. My point was va tech played nobody that past several years. Look at there schedule last year. They play in the acc. The point was is they will be seeing speed they have never seen before much like that lsu game. I am saying bama had the number two ranked rush defense in the nation last year. They played in the sec. There two losses were to spread offenses which had great skill players on offense. Tech does not have this. They have a running game which bama front seven will eat alive! Then it comes down to the face can a 55 percent passer with sophomore receivers beat bama. I think not. Bama offense is a question mark but I guarantee it is ten times better than techs

 

[GoSooners]

sdf you think tech beats bama tell me how is va tech going to score...they are a running team and bama was 2 in the nation against the run and they faced a lot better running teams than va tech...taylor a 55 percent career receiver how they going to score? if tech does not get a defensive td or special teams td how they going to score? i will tell you one thing no way in hell does va tech beat bama.. r u serious man

Tell me how Bama is going to score. They lose their QB, RB, part of their offensive line. Their running game was their bread and butter last year. But VT's strength is their run defense. You might say that Bama is in the same boat, except VT has the more experienced QB who this early in the season is the one less apt to make the mistakes.

One thing that you can always count on with VT is they are a well coached and very sound team on both sides of the ball. You'll very seldom see their defensive players out of position. Unless they are an inexperienced team like they were early last season, they don't usually beat themselves. That's why they ended the season with a (+10 TO margin). This year they are much more experienced team than they were last season. And they have a lot of momentum coming into this season.. Even though they've never been a dominant team offensively, the reason that i've always liked them as dogs is because they play such sound football that you usually have to be a plainly better team athletically to beat them and cover the spread. And I'm not sure that Bama is that much better athletically than VT is at the skill positions.. They certainly won't be as experienced in some of the key skill positions.

 

[westcoastg]

I guess we will find out when they play the game. Sounds to me like I dont think va tech will score and you dont think bama will score so maybe the under is the play:toast:

 

[bellyputter]

What will you do if both games open -7.5?

 

[GoSooners]

I can just about guarantee that the Illinois/MU game will open at 6 or more. And probably get bet up from there. The Bama/VT game I would guess will open at around Bama -2.5. But what I'm more curious about is what they'll make for the totals for that game. I would be surprised if they make it over 40. Pretty low for a college game. I don't bet many totals, but I would think a decent play would be the under if it's anything out of the 30's.

 

[fballplaya]

I can just about guarantee that the Illinois/MU game will open at 6 or more. And probably get bet up from there. The Bama/VT game I would guess will open at around Bama -2.5. But what I'm more curious about is what they'll make for the totals for that game. I would be surprised if they make it over 40. Pretty low for a college game. I don't bet many totals, but I would think a decent play would be the under if it's anything out of the 30's.

I agree with regards to the under in the Bama/Tech matchup....my only concern is when you have 2 defenses (VaTech especially) who have a history of scoring via defense and special teams I would be careful...I can see a 17-13 type game...but a ST/DEF TC either way puts the game "over"

 

[russ1945]

VT usually has an advantage on the defensive side of the ball. LY they gave up 16.7ppg and Ala gave up 14.3ppg. No advantage here. VT returns players who scored 14ppg from LY's 22ppg and Ala returns players who scored 12.4ppg from LY's 30ppg. VT returns players on def who have started 128 games and Ala returns players who have started 167 games.
VT special teams have been down the last couple of years and ALA has Arenas back and he may be a factor in this game. I think Ala with 9 back on defense can hold VT to less than LY's 22 ppg avg and control the game. The under may be the play in this one.

 

[BigdaddyQH]

Y0ou are going to gie Va. Tech and around 4 points. In a game that may end up being a 3-2 defensive struggle, 4 points can be a lot. Both teams are going to depend on their defenses to make things happen. 'Bama may have the edge in talent, but Va Tech's special teams always make things happen in big games. I would not touch this game unless I could lay less than 3 and that is not going to happen.

Illinois is at -5.5 to -6 against Missouri right now. This game may climb to -7. Both teams have rather weak defenses. There is no question that Illinois has the better Qb, but Juice can also be a turnover machine. Again, bet at your own risk if you are giving more than 3 points.

 

[bigtendominator]

I guess we will find out when they play the game. Sounds to me like I dont think va tech will score and you dont think bama will score so maybe the under is the play:toast:

He is not saying they are going to score 50 points. You are implying that VT gets shutout.

While, I do think that Bama wins, it could go either way. If the total is 38 or more, I will play the Under. If the line is 4 or more, I will take VT.

 

[WinOne]

I can understand your reasoning with Va Tech having got smacked pretty good by LSU in 2007 so Bama should be able to do the same thing. But comparing LSU of 2007 with Bama of 2009 is like comparing apples to oranges. Two SEC teams, but they are nothing alike. And neither is the situation surrounding the game. LSU was National Champs that season with a very good ofensive team, and played VT on their home field. This will be at a neutral site.. Bama was far from a dominant team last season and they didn't exactly win their games with their offense. I'm not saying that Bama isn't going to win against VT. But it's a mistake to base this game on another that was played two years ago by a completely different team. Not every team in the SEC was/is as good as that LSU team..Bama is a horse of a different color.

Give me VaTech plus the points. Bama was very fortunate and got exposed against Utah. VaTech with a mobile QB and spreading their offense can do the same. Bama has a new QB to break in and Saban won't open the reins unless he has to. So if it comes down to Defense and Special Teams, give me the VaTech HISTORY (more blocked punts/FG) than any FBS team since '90.

I may even play Tech SU depending on how fall camps go. Remember Tech ranked #9 in Total Defense last year and it was considered a down year for them

WinOne!!

 

[fballplaya]

I can just about guarantee that the Illinois/MU game will open at 6 or more. And probably get bet up from there. The Bama/VT game I would guess will open at around Bama -2.5. But what I'm more curious about is what they'll make for the totals for that game. I would be surprised if they make it over 40. Pretty low for a college game. I don't bet many totals, but I would think a decent play would be the under if it's anything out of the 30's.

If the Bama/VT game opens at Bama -2.5....it will be very difficult to not take Bama...

 

[westcoastg]

Wow a lot of you for some reason on this va tech team against bama. Bama lost to Florida which was a tight game for the most part and could have went either way. They were not motivated to play utah in the bowl. That being said utah had a good throwing qb and very good skill players around him. Va tech has a 55 career passer and there receivers are sophomores and not great. Bama has a much better return game. Bama has a much better d! Va tech if they played in the sec would be lucky to win a few games. Bamas front seven will shut down techs running game and we know that. You guys are then going to put your money behind a 55 percent passers are u serious. I guarantee bama even though a new qb is a far better passes then this taylor joker. Name one good offense tech played last. Lets see they played east carolina, furman, georgia tech, north carolina, nebraska, west kentucky, boston college twice, florida st, maryland, miami, Duke, virgina, and cinncy. So number 9 overall defense is very deceiving. I think many defenses would have great numbers against this joke of a schedule. You guys think bama will have no offense. Saban has had two years to recruit now and trust me bama will have some weapons. They are being picked to win the sec division. They have almost all there defense back which was dominant. Any defense which can dominate the sec is one hell of a gdamn defense. Now way in hell va tech wins straight up. You guys have lost your mind.

 

[MajorGCG]

I agree with Sooners on Bama's offense. I'm not sold on it at all. Don't forget that Bama struggled quite a bit last year against some pretty mediocre teams (Tulane, Kentucky, LSU, and even MSU & AU for the first half)

Now they've lost their two best OL and repositioned the others, have a new QB, new RB, only Julio and a bunch of frosh at WR. This will be their achilles heel this year. I'm not sold on McElroy at all either. I watched their spring game and he looked terrible. The good news is their D will keep them in every game.

 

[Flsunman]

Major.. come on man, the spring game means absolutely nothing.

Bama has TONS of running backs, Ingram is a stud and will be MUCH better than Coffey who wasnt that good to begin with.

Bama needs other receivers and their o-line to come together and they will be there in the end.

 

[fivestarjake]

i think the way to play "against" bama in some instances would be 1st halves when tide are favored. remember last year they jumped out on people then let up some in the 2nd. i don't see that happening as much this year.

 

[GoSooners]

Personally, I think it's best to leave marquee games like this alone, and let the weekend bettors spend all of their money on it. I'm probably going to go with more of the low key games this season unless I can see a marquee game where I have a distinct advantage with the line. If they end up making Bama something like a 3 point favorite here, there really is no distinct advantage for any of us no matter how much we discusss it. In the first couple weeks of the season you want to play mismatches and games where you have a pretty good idea that the line is off but few have caught on to it. Not television games like this that are great matchups, but not very good betting opportunities. Same can probably be said for Ill/Mizzou. Although i would love to see a good line like Illinois -4 or less, realistically i know we may not see less than 7. And possibly more. So this game may not be a good bet either.