1st "Biggest Bet of Year" Play(Boise st -23)

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1st "Biggest Bet of Year" Play

**** BOISE STATE -23 (over Tulsa) *****

I finally found a play, but I'm kind of fustrated. Boise st opened at -21 and this play jumped out me this weekend. However, I didn't bet on it right away, because I had to look over the team's stats, tendencies and injuries, etc etc just to confirm things before making it official, but guess what, less than 24 hrs later, the spread went up to -23!! Who's the wiseguys who jumped on this before me?? I guess they saw the same thing as I did when it first came out. It lost a bit of it's value since now it will take more than 3 touchdowns+extra pt to beat the spread. I think the spread should be atleast 28 pts, so I'm still going to play it.

23 or so pts might seem like a lot of points if you're just going by the wins and losses by the two teams and how they've done recently. The books has to get into the mind of the public. I think the books are thinking that the public will look at Tulsa's schedule and see that they won 3 straight games, the most impressive in their last game over Preseason wac fav Hawaii. And Boise st's has never beaten anyone by over 20 pts in their last 4 games so instead of making it really high, they opened it much lower. Lets look at this game closely.....

Boise st

*Boise st played 5 games, and blew out Idaho st 62-0 at home in their first game. I don't really take first games to heavily since teams never had time to gel yet, but you have to notice that Idaho st, despite being a div 2 team, they can score a ton of points, in exception to the lost against boise st, they averaged over 40 pts per game. So Boise st holding them to 0 pts, that's saying something.
*Boise st then goes to idaho and win by 14. Idaho ain't that good, but winning on the road says something in itself.
*Then they go to Oregon st, and barely lose. That game could have easily gone the other way. Lots of ranked teams would have lost by more points if they had to travel into Oreg st.
*Boise st then comes home and beats wyoming by 16 pts. Wyoming is a much better team than Tulsa.
*Boise st then goes on the road and beats Louis tech. Impressive win. Louis tech is a much better team than Tulsa is.

Tulsa

*Tulsa won their last three games, all of them at home. However, when they went to play tough teams, minn and arkansas on the road, they got smashed. I don't look at the first game that seriously, but you have to take into account how bad Tulsa lost to Minn. 49-10.
*Tulsa had another chance to redeem themselves on the road against arkansas, but still got blasted 45-13.
*Do we even need to take into consideration the three home games they just played, since they were all horrible teams.
*Hawaii, their last game, was not the same Hawaii team, they had 3 of their starting receivers and their top defensive linemen out of the game. plus the fact Hawaii is not nearly the same team they are at home. With all that going against them, Hawaii was not much better than Tulsa's other two cupcakes Texas st and Ark st.

Concerns or not

Boise st was just in a war at Louis tech where they barely won 43-37. Could it be a let down in this game against Tulsa just like how California had a let down against Oreg st after a win against USC?? Could be, but this tulsa vs boise st game is such a big missmatch, that it won't make much of a difference I feel.
ANother concern or not, is Tulsa is confident after winning 3 in a row, and just beating hawaii in a game they were dogs in. But in my opinion, that's good cause those teams they beat are no where near the talent they are about to face at boise, so they'll be shocked when the game starts.

Commentary

Tulsa, to me, is actually 0-2 for the season, with a lost to minn by 39 pts, and loss to Arkansas by 32 pts, both on the road. Those three home games they won was cupcakes, not really worth mentioning.

Now they go on the road to Boise st. This boise st team on the blue field, I feel, could beat minn and arkansas. That's how good boise st is. Now if they can beat those teams at home, imagine what they will do to Tulsa.

I saw Tulsa against Hawaii and they definitely don't have much team speed. Hawaii was, at times, moving the ball down the field at will early in the game, but ofcourse, Hawaii did not just have tons of injuries, they choke on the road so somehow tulsa won, but Boise st will move it down field against Tulsa at will from start to finish in this game. The only thing that will stop them are themselves. Tulsa's offense is slow, they won't do much against boise st's defense.

The key

Boise st's qb Dwindiddie is the key. He is definitely the best qb in the wac conference, if not one of the best in the nation. Look at this guy's current qb rating (he was the leader last season). He is currently passing over 60%, over 300 yds per game, and the best td to int ratio percentage in the nation(9 td to 1 int ratio). He doesn't make much mistakes and he's consistant. He makes everyone around him better. Boise st is dominant over Tulsa in every aspect of their offenses and defenses. This is a total missmatch.
 

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Great write up as I see a blue-carpet blowout also and will tail you here as my first play this week.
Boise - 23 6 units
 

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Sorry for posting in your thread as I forgot that's not the way to do things here. I'll have my own thread with this play and the rest later this week. Many apologies.
 

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finally found something you like huh?
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lets hope your patience pays off
 

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Look for the number to rise even higher. Despite some home wins, Tulsa lacks talent and like other bad teams, they have the possibility of becoming completely unravled on the road. Their run defense is especially shaky against stronger foes. It looks fairly obvious to take Boise and I think you can expect the number to be at 28 at kickoff. I do not see a lot of public backing on Tulsa.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Proman:
Look for the number to rise even higher. Despite some home wins, Tulsa lacks talent and like other bad teams, they have the possibility of becoming completely unravled on the road. Their run defense is especially shaky against stronger foes. It looks fairly obvious to take Boise and I think you can expect the number to be at 28 at kickoff. I do not see a lot of public backing on Tulsa.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

I think the books, figuring the public aren't as familiar with these mid major teams, was banking on Tulsa's big win against Hawaii would entice enough people to bite on Tulsa. Seems the book's strategy didn't work and money still came rolling on Boise st to move the line up.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Fastfreddy:
Sorry for posting in your thread as I forgot that's not the way to do things here. I'll have my own thread with this play and the rest later this week. Many apologies.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Who said that's not the way to do things here?
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You can post in anyone's thread if you want, no big deal.
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OK, I'll be the lone dissenting voice here then. Tulsa has been averaging 5.1 yards per rush in their 5 games. That eats up a lot of clock. Boise's rush defense numbers are 2.7 ypr but Boise has played teams that are pass-oriented.

Playing Minnesota and Arkansas on the road has a lot of people against Tulsa but they have bounced back with easy teams at home. I don't think Boise is on the same par as Minn. or Ark. though and they have been known to have letdowns.

I see Tulsa getting at least 2 scores while running down the clock with their running game. I don't see Boise scoring 37 points to cover the spread while allowing Tulsa to score 14.
 

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23 seems like an awful lot to lay to a team that has won 3 in a row for the first time in a long,long time and are walking on air right now.......they actually moved the ball vs a very tough arkansas defense....

glen,i wish you luck......i don`t see boise`s motivation after beating rival la tech on the road and now playing perennial doormat tulsa,who may have their best team in years....

your record as stated is beyond reproach.....i wish you the best and i really hope you nail this bugger and make the man cry....i may ride it for a small play even though i`m not crazy about it...

best of luck.....let`s hope boise by 30
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Glen,
Great to finally hearfrom you. A lot of cappers here have been waiting for one of your "Biggest Plays of the year." I am definitely aboard. Thanks for the insight.
 

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Interest pick. You said in a previous post that you have games circled before the year starts with your own idea what the line should be.

That is why this is an interesting pick to me, because Boise State lost everyone but the QB on the offensive side of the ball. I watched them play against Oregon State and they are definitely not the same team from last year.

However, their defense is solid, although the scoring average the past few games have been high. They should shut down Tulsa. Don't see why they can't put up 35 to 45 vs. Tulsa, so then it comes down to how well their defense performs.

I'm with you, taking Boise State on the Blue Turf. Time to reestablish themself as the team to beat in the WAC.
 

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Glenn, Good luck with the Play.

I think last week's public backing had more to do with logistics and the fact that Hawaii is banged up and does not travel well as for last week's public backing on Tulsa.

Boise has the firepower to name the score. I would be surprised if the line does not move. Tulsa run stats are misleading. Barring a late back door cover, Boise makes sense as the right play.
 

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Thanks Glenn! Tulsa will be completely overwhelmed when they confront the Boise turf and crowd.

GL and here's to more "biggest"

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I am new here. Who should I follow i have been watching for about 6 months i found some good ones to watch but who is the top dog.

My POW though must be
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coming off the lose saturday and playing minnie, sorry minnie has won me some good money this yr but i like u of m
 

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Proman:

Can you explain what you mean when you say Tulsa's run stats are misleading?
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WC Bias:
Interest pick. You said in a previous post that you have games circled before the year starts with your own idea what the line should be.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Not exactly, I have games actually circled the week before. I wish I had a sixth sense that good though
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BigGamesOnly:
I see Tulsa getting at least 2 scores while running down the clock with their running game. I don't see Boise scoring 37 points to cover the spread while allowing Tulsa to score 14. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Tulsa is overall a bad team, though they are better running the ball than passing, it will play right into Boise st's hands. I think you're right that Tulsa will try to slow the game down from the start with running, that would be smart. If they can do that effectively, then Tulsa might keep this game respectable. However, I'm thinking if Hawaii was stopping them early in the game, I can't see why Boise st can't do the same, too.

I see Boise st jumping out to a good lead, and Tulsa will eventually end up getting into a "catch-up" mode as the game goes on, forcing them to pass more, resulting in either turnovers, mistakes, or eating less clock, and will give Dwindiddie a lot more chances, and the route should be on.
 

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GLC:

I think the scenario that you mention would be a good game plan for Boise St. to try.
 

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Big Games,

Tulsa rush defense is terrible. Sure, they stopped Arkansas State and Hawaii's running game. (Hawaii rarely runs). Check and see how they fared against Minnesota and Arkansas. It was ugly. Bosie State RB, Mickel will run wild. Yes, Tulsa is better than they were in past, but that is not saying much. The only thing keeping me from playing the game is the possible emotional let down. I am not sure Boise will take Tulsa seriously, and that could be a problem when you are laying a lot of points.
 

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Here's you sixth sense.
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As much as I respect Glenn's prowess for big games, I have to respectfully disagree on this game.

Using the Sagarin power ratings for a reference to how good Tulsa is compared to Wyoming or Idaho, Tulsa's power rating is 68 versus a 63 for Wyoming and a 59 for Idaho. I would argue Tulsa is better than Wyoming or Idaho. The Idaho game was on the road so we'll forget about that game but the Wyoming game was at home. They couldn't beat Wyoming by this spread so I don't see any reason they'll beat Tulsa (a much improved team like Wyoming) by this spread.

Wyoming has similar characterstics, on defense, as Tulsa. Wyoming gives up 5.1 ypr and Tulsa gives up 5.7 ypr. Wyoming has faced teams that average 4.7 ypr so they are giving up about .4 ypr more than their opponents are averaging. Tulsa has faced opponents that are averaging 4.9 ypr so they are giving up about .8 ypr more than their opponents are averaging. I would argue that Tulsa has faced two GREAT rushing offenses in Minnesota and Arkansas but we'll just deal with the numbers we have. Based on this Boise should have run all over Wyoming but they only ran for 155 yards on 50 attempts, averaging just 3.1 ypr.

Wyoming allows 9.2 yards per pass and Tulsa allows 6.9 yps. Wyoming has faced teams that average 8.1 yps so they are allowing about 1.1 yps more than their opponents are averaging. Tulsa has faced opponents who are averaging 7.1 yps so they are actually allowing .2 yps LESS than their opponents are averaging. Last week they allowed Hawaii to gain 6.1 yps and Hawaii is averaging 5.9 yps. Boise will probably get somewhere around their average, which is 8.4 yps. And against, Wyoming, one would think Boise should have thrown the ball all over the field but they only passed for 285 yards at 7.0 yps. The same scenario played out against Idaho, a team who doesn't play very good defense, but Boise just couldn't move the ball that much against them. Tulsa allowed Minnesota 10.7 yps and Minnesota averages 10.4 yps. They allowed Arkansas 9.4 yps and Arkansas averages 8.5 yps.

The fact remains that Boise just can't run the ball this year. They are averaging a paltry 3.7 ypr against teams allowing 4.7 ypr. While Tulsa is allowing .8 ypr more, Boise is gaining a full yard 1.0 less than their oppoenents are allowing, which means Boise will probably have somewhere around the average of all teams, which is about 3.8 ypr. Last week they faced a similar L. Tech team who is allowing about .9 ypr more than their opponents are averaging, and they only averaged 3.6 ypr.

The lines in the Boise games are reflecting the old Boise State teams. Hawkins has always had a penchant for destroying teams and he isn't doing that this year. The same thing has happened to Kansas State. These teams destroy teams if they can but they can't this year. Given a low spread or a dog and they can cover because they are still very good teams but they can't cover the large number they are being asked to lay. Boise's rush defense has good numbers this year but they haven't played a good rushing team yet. Even Oregon State is only averaging 3.9 ypr against teams allowing 4.1 ypr. L. Tech isn't a great rushing team but they are averaing 4.8 ypr against teams allowing only 4.0 ypr. Those numbers are similar to Tulsa. Last week Tech gained 103 yards on 13 attempts although 64 yards came on one running play so the numbers weren't that good for Tech if you take out that one play. Still, this is the first true rushing team they will face and Tulsa's qb will get his share of yards scrambling. That's something that will keep drives alive.

Tulsa has now gained at least 212 yards rushing in four straight games, including against Arkansas, a team who only allows 3.9 ypr.

I think it's very dangerous to ask a team to do something they haven't done all year and if you take Boise, you are asking them to beat an opponent that is similar to many of their other opponents this year that they have struggled to put away.

I don't have any situations on this game that I know of now, but from a statistical standpoint, this game screams Tulsa. And my numbers only suggest about a 6 to 15 point Boise win. I think there is a lot of value on Tulsa. And the final point I'll make is Tulsa has played a much tougher schedule. Because my final numbers only suggest about a 10 point win for Boise, even if they get some valuable turnovers, etc. I think they will have a tough time covering this number. Just my two cents.
 

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