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I disagree...its a prevent defense and we are a mere shell of what we were. Will never be the same again. Everything changed that day. Everything

When it comes to homeland defense, you can't go on offense without playing defense. We play defense daily in the U.S. You just don't read about everything going on and that's by design.
 

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Coming from the biggest Obama sycophant on this site, as if the Obama admin isn't at least as inept if not more than the previous administration. There's a reason why his poll numbers are in the shitter.

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Just a flat out lie. Anyone who doesn't bash obama you say is an obama lover. You're blinded by your hate for him. I think he's been average president. Not great but nowhere near the last admin. War based on lies, 9/11 and a complete economic collapse. That's the bush record and obama has done nothing that compares to any of that.

Weird..when bush poll numbers were in the shitter, all I heard from the right is how polls don't matter...however now they do. Funny how that works. If 9/11 happened on obamas watch you far righties would have accused him of being part of the plot. Time to own the horrible mistakes bsh made on the days before and after 9/11..ignored warning before and did nothing but fuck up after.
 

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I'm sorry guys, I really wasn't trying to bring filth into the main forum, I kept my remarks as apolitical as possible, but it just seems to be inevitable are far too many topics
 

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Just a flat out lie. Anyone who doesn't bash obama you say is an obama lover. You're blinded by your hate for him. I think he's been average president. Not great but nowhere near the last admin. War based on lies, 9/11 and a complete economic collapse. That's the bush record and obama has done nothing that compares to any of that.

Weird..when bush poll numbers were in the shitter, all I heard from the right is how polls don't matter...however now they do. Funny how that works. If 9/11 happened on obamas watch you far righties would have accused him of being part of the plot. Time to own the horrible mistakes bsh made on the days before and after 9/11..ignored warning before and did nothing but fuck up after.

Vit, I don't mind you at all man but if you're asserting the POTUS was responsible for 9/11, that's insane. I'm not a fan of Obama either but had he been in office during 9/11, I wouldn't blame him either.

Only the terrorists to blame man. Nobody else.

And as far as a war based on lies goes, I guess the POTUS, his top cabinet members and a number of other countries were all fooled to believe the same intel. When are people going to realize just maybe the intel community got it wrong? Or, maybe they got it right and Iraq took action? Totally possible.
 

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I'm sorry guys, I really wasn't trying to bring filth into the main forum, I kept my remarks as apolitical as possible, but it just seems to be inevitable are far too many topics

As always those on the far right make this issue political
 

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Vit, I don't mind you at all man but if you're asserting the POTUS was responsible for 9/11, that's insane. I'm not a fan of Obama either but had he been in office during 9/11, I wouldn't blame him either.

Only the terrorists to blame man. Nobody else.

And as far as a war based on lies goes, I guess the POTUS, his top cabinet members and a number of other countries were all fooled to believe the same intel. When are people going to realize just maybe the intel community got it wrong? Or, maybe they got it right and Iraq took action? Totally possible.

Bush hold some responsibility for ignoring richard clarke and others who warned him about terror threats.

Us took the lead on the entire iraq debacle. That was all bush admin.

You might not have blamed obama but the usual far right fox news repubs would have for sure...really not even a question.
 

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Just a flat out lie. Anyone who doesn't bash obama you say is an obama lover. You're blinded by your hate for him. I think he's been average president. Not great but nowhere near the last admin. War based on lies, 9/11 and a complete economic collapse. That's the bush record and obama has done nothing that compares to any of that.

Weird..when bush poll numbers were in the shitter, all I heard from the right is how polls don't matter...however now they do. Funny how that works. If 9/11 happened on obamas watch you far righties would have accused him of being part of the plot. Time to own the horrible mistakes bsh made on the days before and after 9/11..ignored warning before and did nothing but fuck up after.

Obama would have been impeached if 9/11 happened under his watch. Look what the crazy fucks did over Benghazi. They are real life psychos.
 

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Oh lord, if it happened under Obama, he would have been killed for it.
 

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Bush hold some responsibility for ignoring richard clarke and others who warned him about terror threats.

Us took the lead on the entire iraq debacle. That was all bush admin.

You might not have blamed obama but the usual far right fox news repubs would have for sure...really not even a question.

Yeah, we'll just disagree on this one. Nobody responsible for that terrible day except the terrorists.

I won't ever think Bush went to Iraq knowing there were no weapons there. I think he honestly believed they were there and they just weren't there. So did countless other experts. If you remember back to that time, we all thought they were there. We were all on board.
 

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Obama would have been impeached if 9/11 happened under his watch. Look what the crazy fucks did over Benghazi. They are real life psychos.

Did you read the most recent report with quotes from a former State Department staffer who told the commission State Dept. employees were in the basement of the State Dept. over a weekend removing documents that would make the department "look bad?"

I mean AK, there are legs to this thing. Susan Rice lied to the American public on television and people died. Wouldn't you expect a proper investigation as well? In fact, don't you welcome one?
 

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It is laughable and pathetic watching someone as stupid as vittard comment on this topic.

See, he nor his silly fellow travelers could point out a single thing Bush would have done in response to that CIA memo that they would have supported. Not 1. Further, the memo was based on 1998 intelligence which the Clinton Admin completely ignored - the 9/11 attack was planned during the Clinton Presidency, the hijackers came to America during the Clinton Presidency (which is why the Democrats went berserk over 'The Path to 9-11' and wanted it taken off the air) and saying it happened on Bush's watch is silly and stupid. But so is vittard.

The official position of the US government prior to Bush ever being a candidate for President was that Saddam had WMD's. Mainly because Saddam had WMD's. This was also the official position of every Western government in the world, and the intelligence services of Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, and Kuwait.

So saying Bush "lied" about Iraq's WMD's is silly and stupid. But so is vittard.

Finally, the financial collapse had little to do with any policy Bush supported or enacted, the wheels were in motion for 20 years prior to Bush being sworn in, and so blaming him for the financial collapse is silly and stupid.

So is vittard and the idiots who vote like him.
 
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Kind of sad to see the subject turn from the tragedy of 9-11/remembering the victims to a left vs right war.
 

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I lived a mile from the Pentagon when 9/11 happened.

I couldn't get home as DoD closed RT 1, had anti-tank/helicopter vehicles on the road it was surreal, and I used to drive by the hole in the Pentagon every day.

The people who believe the US government did this and launched a missile at the Pentagon make me sick.
 

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Did you read the most recent report with quotes from a former State Department staffer who told the commission State Dept. employees were in the basement of the State Dept. over a weekend removing documents that would make the department "look bad?"

I mean AK, there are legs to this thing. Susan Rice lied to the American public on television and people died. Wouldn't you expect a proper investigation as well? In fact, don't you welcome one?

Lmao!!!
 

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Yeah, we'll just disagree on this one. Nobody responsible for that terrible day except the terrorists.

I won't ever think Bush went to Iraq knowing there were no weapons there. I think he honestly believed they were there and they just weren't there. So did countless other experts. If you remember back to that time, we all thought they were there. We were all on board.

Not Obama. He was staunchly against it and knew exactly what would happen.
 

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I lived a mile from the Pentagon when 9/11 happened.

I couldn't get home as DoD closed RT 1, had anti-tank/helicopter vehicles on the road it was surreal, and I used to drive by the hole in the Pentagon every day.

The people who believe the US government did this and launched a missile at the Pentagon make me sick.

Acebb, the DoD has no power to shut down roads unless Martial Law is declared. That most likely was the state patrol.
 

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It is laughable and pathetic watching someone as stupid as vittard comment on this topic.

See, he nor his silly fellow travelers could point out a single thing Bush would have done in response to that CIA memo that they would have supported. Not 1. Further, the memo was based on 1998 intelligence which the Clinton Admin completely ignored - the 9/11 attack was planned during the Clinton Presidency, the hijackers came to America during the Clinton Presidency (which is why the Democrats went berserk over 'The Path to 9-11' and wanted it taken off the air) and saying it happened on Bush's watch is silly and stupid. But so is vittard.

The official position of the US government prior to Bush ever being a candidate for President was that Saddam had WMD's. Mainly because Saddam had WMD's. This was also the official position of every Western government in the world, and the intelligence services of Iran, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, and Kuwait.

So saying Bush "lied" about Iraq's WMD's is silly and stupid. But so is vittard.

Finally, the financial collapse had little to do with any policy Bush supported or enacted, the wheels were in motion for 20 years prior to Bush being sworn in, and so blaming him for the financial collapse is silly and stupid.

So is vittard and the idiots who vote like him.

Typical acebb. Playing more word games and blaming clinton. All of what happened on bush's watch...had nothing to do with him but when it rains hard outide you blame obama.

Acebb trying to tell people what a lie is. Lmao...oh the irony. The sites biggest liar
 

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