$100 election contest sponsored by Jdog, MisterMJ and myself

[DarrylParsons]

I am offering a $100 prize to the poster who correctly predicts the winner of the general election on November 4 and who comes closest in predicting the number of electoral votes the winner receives. The tiebreaker will be the total points in the Cleveland vs. Denver NFL game on November 6. If there is still a tie then the prize will be split among the winners.

Eligibility:

Anyone who has 20 posts or more in each of September and October in the politics forum, up to the time of this post.

Payout method:

Winner will PM me an address to which he would like a money order sent.

How to Enter:

Simply post your prediction in this thread. Only your first prediction will count. Your prediction must include:

1. The name of the election winner.
2. The number of electoral votes he will receive.
3. The number of total points in the Cleveland vs. Denver NFL game on November 6

For example,

Obama 299, T/B 35

Fine Points:

1. If two predictions are equally close but in opposite directions, the lower prediction wins. For example, if 299 is the winning number and the closest predictions are 297 and 301, then 297 will win.

2. The same rule applies to the tiebreaker.

3. You may use whole numbers or halves, but no other fractions. In other words, 297.5 would be a valid prediction, but 297.7 would not be.

4. No tiebreak prediction means automatic loss of tiebreak to anyone who did make a tiebreak prediction.

5. Predictions will be accepted until 7:00 am on election day November 4. All predictions must be made in this thread.

That's it. Good luck pundits.

 

[steaktartar]

obama 313......47..........if i win send money to viejo dinosaur for cr bash.....thanx DP

 

[Willie99]

McCain, based on a tiebreaker

EC 269 to 269

TB 8 Rockies 6 Indians 2

Give my money to a local charity

Thanks guys :toast:

 

[DarrylParsons]

LOL @ Willie's tiebreaker.

Just thought about eligibility and realized we shouldn't exclude former regulars who haven't been active lately, so I'll add that you can also be eligible if you have:

200 or more posts in the politics forum in 2008, or
500 or more posts in the politics forum lifetime,

all up until the time of this thread that is.

 

[cutacrossshorty]

McCain, based on a tiebreaker

EC 269 to 269

TB 8 Rockies 6 Indians 2

Give my money to a local charity

Thanks guys :toast:

Your prediction automatically loses. If there's a tie, the incoming congress breaks the tie with each state getting 1 vote based on the votes of their congressional delegation. Currently 26 states have Democratic majorities, 21 have Republican majorities, and 3 are evenly split. Since it's expected that the Dems are going to add 20+ seats, it'll be mathematically impossible for the Republicans and McCain to win that tiebreaker.

 

[D2bets]

1. Obama
2. 344 EV's
3. 41 points

 

[cussin'it]

Very generous of ya DP.....local charity for me too:

Obama/302/TB 30

 

[Willie99]

Your prediction automatically loses. If there's a tie, the incoming congress breaks the tie with each state getting 1 vote based on the votes of their congressional delegation. Currently 26 states have Democratic majorities, 21 have Republican majorities, and 3 are evenly split. Since it's expected that the Dems are going to add 20+ seats, it'll be mathematically impossible for the Republicans and McCain to win that tiebreaker.

well, we'll just have to wait and see.

I think it's going to be 22-22-6, and Joe Lieberman will vote with the GOP in the Senate, making VP Cheney the tiebreaker and thus making Sarah Palin the next POTUS.

:niceass:

 

[cussin'it]

Hittin the Chivas for breaky there Wull? Tie? I know ya can't be serious.

 

[Coldweather]

1. Obama

2. 332 electoral votes

3. 49 football points

4. Please give all the money I win in this here contest to a good charity. Thank you for running this here contest and investing in it as well. You are a nice person.

:toast::toast:

 

[cutacrossshorty]

well, we'll just have to wait and see.

I think it's going to be 22-22-6, and Joe Lieberman will vote with the GOP in the Senate, making VP Cheney the tiebreaker and thus making Sarah Palin the next POTUS.

:niceass:

The Congress votes, not the Senate. Here's an example that was written in 2000 (using the 2000 election in the example). Change the names and the dates to suit 2008.

http://www.presidentelect.org/art_ectie_pr.html

THE PROCEDURE
On December 18, 2000, the electors will meet in their state capitols and cast their actual votes. These will be opened and read by the President of the Senate, Al Gore, in a joint session of Congress at 1pm on January 6, 2001. Once it has been established there is a tie, it becomes the responsibility of the 435 members of the House of Representatives to choose the next President of the United States. However, a special voting procedure is employed in this situation. Each state receives only one vote, and the representatives from each state have to decide which candidate gets theirs. (For example, all 30 of Texas' representatives will vote individually. Then their votes are tallied. Which ever candidate receives a majority of these 30 votes wins Texas' one vote; if no candidate receives a majority of these 30 votes, Texas' one vote is not cast.) Members from at least 34 states must be present for this vote to count. Which ever candidate receives the votes of at least 26 states is declared the President. If no one reaches 26 votes, further balloting is done. (It took the Representatives 36 ballots over 6 days to reach a winner in the 1800 election!)

Since electors vote for the president and vice president separately, a tie on the top of the ticket would almost certainly mean a tie on the bottom of the ticket. If Cheney and Lieberman were both to receive 269 vice presidential electoral votes each, it would be up to the 100 members of the Senate to choose the winner. The voting procedure here is much more straightforward. As long as at least 67 Senators are present, they each cast one vote. Which ever VP candidate receives at least 51 votes is declared the winner.

 

[cussin'it]

Good job Shorty.

He is correct, Cheney will have no say with either of tie breaks.

 

[Romanowski]

Obama 303, t/b 42

gl

 

[Willie99]

I'm not sure I've made a serious post within this thread, yet I'm forced to defend myself against inaccurate attacks.

The House picks the President. The Senate picks the VP. If the House can't break a tie, the Senate's VP becomes President.

If neither branch of CONGRESS picks a winner, the Speaker becomes President.

The House of Representatives is not CONGRESS.

Furthermore, The Constitution is not explicit about whether the President of the Senate can vote to break a tie, and legal scholars differ on the point.

Chill out already fellas. :toast:

 

[JudgeWapner]

Obama
302
43

 

[cussin'it]

I'm not sure I've made a serious post within this thread, yet I'm forced to defend myself against inaccurate attacks.

The House picks the President. The Senate picks the VP. If the House can't break a tie, the Senate's VP becomes President.

If neither branch of CONGRESS picks a winner, the Speaker becomes President.

The House of Representatives is not CONGRESS.

Furthermore, The Constitution is not explicit about whether the President of the Senate can vote to break a tie, and legal scholars differ on the point.

Chill out already fellas. :toast:

We're chilled my swamp yankee pal:

So what happens if there is a tie? The Cliff's Notes version of the 12th Amendment is as follows:

1. The incoming (newly-elected) House votes on the President. But they don't take a straight up or down vote. Instead, each state's delegation gets a vote. So California, which has 53 representatives, gets one vote based on what a majority of those representatives decide. Delaware, which has just one representative, also gets one vote. In order to win the Presidency, a candidate must receive the votes of an outright majority of 26 state delegations. This is more difficult than you might think, because delegations with an even number of members can be split, and a couple probably will be -- right now Arizona has four Republican representatives and four Democratic ones, for instance.

2. If no candidate receives a majority of the House delegations, the House is supposed to continue voting until one does. But naturally, the Constitution provides for a default option if the House is unable to come to agreement. That is because the incoming Senate votes on the Vice President, and the Vice President becomes the acting President if no President is chosen by the House by Inauguration Day.

3. A tie is also possible in the Senate, since the outgoing Vice President (Dick Cheney) does not get a vote under the 12th Amendment. In fact, if the Senate held such a vote today, a tie would be somewhat likely, assuming that Bernie Sanders voted with the Democrats and Joe Lieberman voted for John McCain. If the House hasn't picked a President and the Senate hasn't picked a Vice President, succession defaults to the Speaker of the House ... which means we'd have President Pelosi.

:howdy:

 

[Brooklynbomber]

obama 350

41

 

[barman]

Obama 340, TB 41.5

In my role of GrowingUpToBeLikeSTEAK, send my big winnings to VD for the Costa Rica Bash/OrphansXmas fund....and while you're at it, you prize makers sack up and double it (for the VD donation)

 

[Mistermj]

Obama 370

42

:lol:

 

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