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10 reasons to hate the Red Sox



By Tom Jones, Times Staff Writer

Published Monday, June 30, 2008 7:37 PM
<HR noShade SIZE=1>The fans
Red Sox Nation? They weren't even known as "Red Sox Nation" until they started winning championships, which in case New Englanders forget (and it seems they have) was only a few years ago. Before 2004, Red Sox fans were like Cubs fans: lovable losers. You felt sorry for them when Bucky Dent, Bill Buckner and Aaron Boone happened. Then they won a World Series and then another and now they, including all the bandwagon jumpers, parade around like they invented the game. They were more fun — and a whole lot classier — when they were cursed.
Bill Buckner
Yeah, Red Sox fans are all peachy with Bill Buckner, the supposed goat of the 1986 World Series, these days. But from 1986 until the Red Sox won in 2004? They treated Buckner like dirt, running him out of town and making him live in shame all because the Red Sox didn't have the jam to hold on to a 3-0 lead in Game 7 two nights after Buckner had the audacity to let a grounder skip between his legs.
Manny being Manny
If any other player pulled some of the stunts Manny Ramirez has, he would be considered a troublemaker. But everyone just smiles, shrugs and says, "That's Manny being Manny," and that makes it all okay? Try that at work tomorrow. Goof off and when the boss says something, just say, "Hey, that's Joe being Joe," and see what happens. Okay, honestly? I used to love Manny, and you can't deny he is one of the best hitters in the history of the game. But he lost my support when he reportedly shoved the team's traveling secretary over the weekend for not getting him enough tickets. That's not Manny being Manny. That's Manny being a jerk.
It's a Boston thing
The Patriots, despite their Super Bowl loss to the Giants, still have had football's best team over the past decade and probably will win the whole thing next season. The Celtics pull a rabbit out of their hats (actually two — Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen) and go from one of the worst teams in the NBA to a record 17th NBA title. The Red Sox have won two World Series in four years and are the favorites again this year. That's just not fair. No city should have that much fun.
They're jerks
Think of some of the legendary names in Red Sox history: Ted Williams, Carlton Fisk, Carl Yastrzemski, Jim Rice. Know what two things they have in common? They were all great players. And they were all crotchety, cranky and ornery cusses.
Curt Schilling
I know he's not around, and, sincerely, we hate to see anyone's career end on an injury. But …
Shut up. Please. Please shut up. You talk too much. Remember a few years ago when he popped off on Lou Piniella, claiming Piniella no longer knows how the game is played? (This year's NL Central standings suggest otherwise.) That's just one of like a million things Schilling, right, has said over the years — to newspaper reporters, on the radio, on TV … in his own blog! I swear, someday a YouTube clip is going to show him rubbing ketchup on that, ahem, bloody sock. Okay, we get it, you had a cut on your foot. They're rich but act poor
For years, Red Sox fans bellyached about their rivals, the Yankees, and how much money the Yankees would spend on players. Well, you know what? You guys are the Yankees, too. You win championships because you spend money. So don't act like you're the organization with all the sharp baseball minds who built through the draft and shrewd waiver-wire pickups with a tiny payroll. That's the Rays, not you guys.
Oh yeah, sure, Red Sox GM Theo Epstein, right, is a genius. It takes real brilliance to recognize that Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell are, uh, pretty good and we should write them a check from a limitless bank account. No, genius is trading away a player like Delmon Young for Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett.
Jason Varitek's C
Jason Varitek is the Red Sox captain, and he wears a "C" on his uniform. This isn't hockey. Why is he the only guy in baseball wearing a C? In fact, what does a baseball captain even do? Wearing a "C" is just arrogant. "Hey, look at us, we have a captain." "Hey, lookie at me. I'm the leader." The Yankees have a captain, too, but you don't see Derek Jeter feeling the need to announce to the world that he has a job that has no duties. If you want to lead, then lead. But you don't have to tell everyone that you lead.

Coco Crisp and Jonathan Papelbon
Don't get us started on Coco. He starts all the trouble by spiking Akinori Iwamura then has the nerve to storm the mound when James Shields hits him in the leg? Whatever. Everything calms down, everything is evened up then Papelbon, right, runs his mouth about the whole thing not being over. Unless you plan on grabbing a bat and standing in a batter's box, you probably shouldn't say anything. And while we're at it, does Kevin Youkilis have to wet his pants and throw helmets every time he gets called out on strikes or pops up with a runner on third and one out?
They're good Bottom line is they have more rings than any team over the past four years. And two more than the Rays. They have Manny and Big Papi banging homers. They have Josh Beckett and Dice-K blowing away hitters. They have Kevin Youkilis and Mike Lowell hitting gappers and Jacoby Ellsbury stealing bases. And Jonathan Papelbon throwing peas to lock down games. Their manager might be the best in baseball, and, yes, even their kid GM seems to know what he's doing. Plus, well, they do play in the coolest stadium in sports.
Don't you just hate that?
 

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One bright note for Red Sox fans.

JD Drew hit his 16th homer of the year for Boston in the 6th inning off James Shields. It gave him 12 homers in June, third most by a player in Red Sox history behind Jackie Jensen (14 in 1958) and Ted Williams (13 in 1950).

DRays are starting to sound like Red Sox.

J.P. Howell got the final out of the ninth a liner to short by Julio Lugo with Brandon Moss on third base after Boston scored twice on Moss' RBI double and Jason Varitek's sacrifice fly off closer Troy Percival that trimmed the Red Sox deficit to one run.

Percival limped off the mound after appearing to tweak a sore hamstring backing up the plate on Varitek's sacrifice fly. Percival had an animated argument with Rays manager Joe Maddon before leaving.


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[The fans
Red Sox Nation? They weren't even known as "Red Sox Nation" until they started winning championships, which in case New Englanders forget (and it seems they have) was only a few years ago. Before 2004, Red Sox fans were like Cubs fans: lovable losers. You felt sorry for them when Bucky Dent, Bill Buckner and Aaron Boone happened. Then they won a World Series and then another and now they, including all the bandwagon jumpers, parade around like they invented the game. They were more fun — and a whole lot classier — when they were cursed.
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yup
 

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"They're Good..."

When at Home or on the road playing subpar teams.

For gamblers, those are tough places to make a profit.

With last night's loss in St Petersburg, Boston BlowSox are now 14-41 in their past 55 games Away vs TeamsFromTopHalf of MLB.

Now THAT is a good way to make $$$ if you're a sports bettor.
 

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I have been a huge red sox fan for 18+ yrs, and even I am pretty tired of a lot of their shit....big fan of Varitek, but the "C" should have been removed long ago....Manny is a great player, but let's not for a second believe that if he were mediocre, pushing a senior team official would have warranted a severe suspension/being released...and don't get me started on our obnoxious fanbase, especially since it has blossomed into the entire tri-state area since they won it all....
 
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[The fans
Red Sox Nation? They weren't even known as "Red Sox Nation" until they started winning championships, which in case New Englanders forget (and it seems they have) was only a few years ago. Before 2004, Red Sox fans were like Cubs fans: lovable losers. You felt sorry for them when Bucky Dent, Bill Buckner and Aaron Boone happened. Then they won a World Series and then another and now they, including all the bandwagon jumpers, parade around like they invented the game. They were more fun — and a whole lot classier — when they were cursed.
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yup


100% true.


its unfortunate when you think of some of the people who never saw them win it all, then compare it to the pink hats, wally loving, yankee suck frat boys.

team and fans were much more likeable in the 80s and 90s when going to fenway meant going to a ball game and having a beer. now its a fucking circus.
 

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10 reasons to hate the Red Sox
By Tom Jones, Times Staff Writer

Published Monday, June 30, 2008 7:37 PM
<hr noshade="noshade" size="1">The fans
Red Sox Nation? They weren't even known as "Red Sox Nation" until they started winning championships, which in case New Englanders forget (and it seems they have) was only a few years ago. Before 2004, Red Sox fans were like Cubs fans: lovable losers. You felt sorry for them when Bucky Dent, Bill Buckner and Aaron Boone happened. Then they won a World Series and then another and now they, including all the bandwagon jumpers, parade around like they invented the game. They were more fun — and a whole lot classier — when they were cursed.
Bill Buckner
Yeah, Red Sox fans are all peachy with Bill Buckner, the supposed goat of the 1986 World Series, these days. But from 1986 until the Red Sox won in 2004? They treated Buckner like dirt, running him out of town and making him live in shame all because the Red Sox didn't have the jam to hold on to a 3-0 lead in Game 7 two nights after Buckner had the audacity to let a grounder skip between his legs.
Manny being Manny
If any other player pulled some of the stunts Manny Ramirez has, he would be considered a troublemaker. But everyone just smiles, shrugs and says, "That's Manny being Manny," and that makes it all okay? Try that at work tomorrow. Goof off and when the boss says something, just say, "Hey, that's Joe being Joe," and see what happens. Okay, honestly? I used to love Manny, and you can't deny he is one of the best hitters in the history of the game. But he lost my support when he reportedly shoved the team's traveling secretary over the weekend for not getting him enough tickets. That's not Manny being Manny. That's Manny being a jerk.
It's a Boston thing
The Patriots, despite their Super Bowl loss to the Giants, still have had football's best team over the past decade and probably will win the whole thing next season. The Celtics pull a rabbit out of their hats (actually two — Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen) and go from one of the worst teams in the NBA to a record 17th NBA title. The Red Sox have won two World Series in four years and are the favorites again this year. That's just not fair. No city should have that much fun.
They're jerks
Think of some of the legendary names in Red Sox history: Ted Williams, Carlton Fisk, Carl Yastrzemski, Jim Rice. Know what two things they have in common? They were all great players. And they were all crotchety, cranky and ornery cusses.
Curt Schilling
I know he's not around, and, sincerely, we hate to see anyone's career end on an injury. But …
Shut up. Please. Please shut up. You talk too much. Remember a few years ago when he popped off on Lou Piniella, claiming Piniella no longer knows how the game is played? (This year's NL Central standings suggest otherwise.) That's just one of like a million things Schilling, right, has said over the years — to newspaper reporters, on the radio, on TV … in his own blog! I swear, someday a YouTube clip is going to show him rubbing ketchup on that, ahem, bloody sock. Okay, we get it, you had a cut on your foot. They're rich but act poor
For years, Red Sox fans bellyached about their rivals, the Yankees, and how much money the Yankees would spend on players. Well, you know what? You guys are the Yankees, too. You win championships because you spend money. So don't act like you're the organization with all the sharp baseball minds who built through the draft and shrewd waiver-wire pickups with a tiny payroll. That's the Rays, not you guys.
Oh yeah, sure, Red Sox GM Theo Epstein, right, is a genius. It takes real brilliance to recognize that Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell are, uh, pretty good and we should write them a check from a limitless bank account. No, genius is trading away a player like Delmon Young for Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett.
Jason Varitek's C
Jason Varitek is the Red Sox captain, and he wears a "C" on his uniform. This isn't hockey. Why is he the only guy in baseball wearing a C? In fact, what does a baseball captain even do? Wearing a "C" is just arrogant. "Hey, look at us, we have a captain." "Hey, lookie at me. I'm the leader." The Yankees have a captain, too, but you don't see Derek Jeter feeling the need to announce to the world that he has a job that has no duties. If you want to lead, then lead. But you don't have to tell everyone that you lead.

Coco Crisp and Jonathan Papelbon
Don't get us started on Coco. He starts all the trouble by spiking Akinori Iwamura then has the nerve to storm the mound when James Shields hits him in the leg? Whatever. Everything calms down, everything is evened up then Papelbon, right, runs his mouth about the whole thing not being over. Unless you plan on grabbing a bat and standing in a batter's box, you probably shouldn't say anything. And while we're at it, does Kevin Youkilis have to wet his pants and throw helmets every time he gets called out on strikes or pops up with a runner on third and one out?
They're good Bottom line is they have more rings than any team over the past four years. And two more than the Rays. They have Manny and Big Papi banging homers. They have Josh Beckett and Dice-K blowing away hitters. They have Kevin Youkilis and Mike Lowell hitting gappers and Jacoby Ellsbury stealing bases. And Jonathan Papelbon throwing peas to lock down games. Their manager might be the best in baseball, and, yes, even their kid GM seems to know what he's doing. Plus, well, they do play in the coolest stadium in sports.
Don't you just hate that?


wonder why they stopped at 10
 
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It's amazing how a couple of World Series rings can make the rabid
haters froth at the mouth.

yawn...
 

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Only thing I hate about the Red Sox is the ticket prices.

Oh ya, and Curt Schilling
 

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Misguided hatred

Posted by Eric Wilbur, Boston.com Staff July 1, 2008 09:05 AM
Tom Jones, he of the St. Petersburg Times, came up with a novel idea for a column today, and - God bless him - he followed through on it.
10 reasons to hate the Red Sox
Reminds me of this.
And this.
And this.
Anyhow, far be it from us to point out a few inaccuracies, but here they are*:
“Red Sox Nation? They weren't even known as "Red Sox Nation" until they started winning championships.”
Boston Globe feature writer Nathan Cobb dropped the phrase in 1986. That’s 18 years before 2004. Next?
“Before 2004, Red Sox fans were like Cubs fans: lovable losers. You felt sorry for them when Bucky Dent, Bill Buckner and Aaron Boone happened. Then they won a World Series and then another and now they, including all the bandwagon jumpers, parade around like they invented the game.”
This can not be denied.
“Yeah, Red Sox fans are all peachy with Bill Buckner, the supposed goat of the 1986 World Series, these days. But from 1986 until the Red Sox won in 2004? They treated Buckner like dirt, running him out of town and making him live in shame all because the Red Sox didn't have the jam to hold on to a 3-0 lead in Game 7 two nights after Buckner had the audacity to let a grounder skip between his legs.”
Now I'm confused where everybody is supposed to stand on Buckner.
“The Patriots, despite their Super Bowl loss to the Giants, still have had football's best team over the past decade and probably will win the whole thing next season. The Celtics pull a rabbit out of their hats (actually two — Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen) and go from one of the worst teams in the NBA to a record 17th NBA title. The Red Sox have won two World Series in four years and are the favorites again this year. That's just not fair. No city should have that much fun.”
Yeah, we’re sorry. But let’s not forget that Tampa itself has had two parades this decade. Not too shabby. In fact, of the four major sports, only Boston, Detroit and San Antonio can boast more titles since 2001 than they can in the Tampa area, tied with Anaheim and Los Angeles for that honor (depending upon, of course, exactly which zip code you want to consider the 2002 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim). The other Bay Area, the one on the left coast, can complain about the current title drought of their sports teams. When you’ve got two titles over the past six years, you’re not yet eligible.
“Think of some of the legendary names in Red Sox history: Ted Williams, Carlton Fisk, Carl Yastrzemski, Jim Rice. Know what two things they have in common? They were all great players. And they were all crotchety, cranky and ornery cusses.”
Maybe. But I’ll take ornery over the wild card that was Elijah Dukes, no?
“Oh yeah, sure, Red Sox GM Theo Epstein, right, is a genius. It takes real brilliance to recognize that Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell are, uh, pretty good and we should write them a check from a limitless bank account.”
Theo Epstein didn’t make the deal, or at least, wasn’t at the forefront of the deal. The Beckett trade was made during the winter prior to the ’06 season, when the Red Sox GM was on leave from the club. But that’s beside the point. While Beckett was the centerpiece of the deal, the Red Sox had to swallow the remaining two years on the contract of Lowell, who was coming off a season in which he hit .236 with eight home runs, a .298 OBP, and a career-low .658 OPS. That’s not, uh, pretty good. Lowell’s career was in serious downslide, and he certainly wasn’t an attractive extra to have to take on at the time. Not to mention, the guy the Sox surrendered in the deal is a perennial MVP threat.
“No, genius is trading away a player like Delmon Young for Matt Garza and Jason Bartlett.”
Delmon Young is a nice player, but seriously, this was a swap of former first-round picks. It’s not like the Rays Bagwelled the Twins in this deal. Bartlett’s .578 OPS is dead-last among major league shortstops, but when you’re looking at a 24-year-old possible No. 2 starter for the long-term future, isn’t it worth even a player of Young’s stature? Kinda like, oh…Hanley Ramirez. Genius.
“Don't act like you're the organization with all the sharp baseball minds who built through the draft and shrewd waiver-wire pickups with a tiny payroll. That's the Rays, not you guys.”
On the current roster, here are the players the Red Sox have built with through the draft: Jacoby Ellsbury, Kevin Youkilis, Dustin Pedroia, Brandon Moss, Jonathan Papelbon, Chris Smith, Jon Lester, Justin Masterson, Manny Delcarmen, and Craig Hansen. Among the “shrewd waiver-wire pickups” is a fella named David Ortiz.
On the Rays’ current roster, Tampa drafted BJ Upton, Carl Crawford, Evan Longoria, Jonny Gomes, Shawn Riggans, Dan Wheeler, James Shields, Andy Sonnastine, Jason Hammel, and Jeff Niemann. Among the “shrewd waiver-wire pickups” is a fella named Carlos Pena.
I count 10 homegrown on both sides.
Boston is fourth in payroll this season, behind the Yankees ($209 million!), Mets, and Tigers. That’s still not denying the vast discrepancy in payroll, but to chalk up the team’s success to solely money and not understanding what the draft has done for the current state of the Red Sox is foolhardy.
*FJM style duly noted.
 

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Say what you want but it has been sweet.

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And even sweeter last year. Saw my first live Red Sox game in the 1950s so do not call me a bandwagon jumper.

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That a boy Wil. I see so many good fans like you, that cheer and support the right way. I see more good fans by far than bad. I just think people do not like winners and since we have won several times as of late, PLUS the Patriots it upsets people. I sincerely do not buy the other theories. Sox are going to get a reliever for the 2nd half. Okajima is not getting it done and we need a nice setup man. Then get Ortiz back and lets see what happens.
 

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