Who Has The Better Defense Of The Final Four Now?

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You all know I'm a Bengals nut

But I don't understand why our defense is considered "great" by a lot of the media. It's certainly not great
 

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1. Niners
2. Eagles
3. Bengals
4. Chiefs


Eagles and Bengals pretty close, but don't trust Bengals corners. Chiefs a little behind but not bad

Niners are the best though pretty clearly
That's exactly what I gave him. Weird ?
 

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You all know I'm a Bengals nut

But I don't understand why our defense is considered "great" by a lot of the media. It's certainly not great
They make excellent halftime adjustments. A very underrated D
 

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They make excellent halftime adjustments. A very underrated D
I think Lou is an exceptional defensive coordinator, and I think he makes tremendous half time adjustments.

But personnel wise they aren't great. They are good/solid players for most part and play well together though

They're good enough -- that's the best way to describe it
 

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Bengals 16.8 (Bengals played 2 of 5 at home.
Chiefs 18.2 (Played 3 of 5 at home.
Eagles. 20.6 (played 3 of 5 at home.
SF. 20.6 (Played 4 of last 5 at home.
You're basing your overall defensive rankings on this?
 

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You just bash,
Going on a bad run 1-12 is not an answer.
Lets hear what your justifactioon is in your claimed order?
I can tell you SF was ranked #1. Thats not what is being discussed here.
Dissect this any way you want,. But be detailed and not using useless data.
What does 1, 4,7, 15, come from.
The numbers are worthless without formulas...
It does matter:

someone that misses 12 of their last 13 answers on a test
Someone that has shown to be a below average student consistently over the last 3 years

and then posts biased information about stats: isn’t someone to follow. For example cincy stats they played Baltimore twice in the past 5 games who is one of the worst offenses in the league without Lamar Jackson. And one of those games they sat their backs and Andrew’s their best offensive weapon.

blunt fact is being put out that differs from your thoughts and you need a formula to back it up?

tou can take stats and turns them into any side you’d like. Prime example are your game picks. Week 1 if playoff the cowboys aren’t who we think they are, the next— they roll over San Fran. Last week the bengals have all these issues and will get blown out by bills bc they can’t score, missing 3 ol, don’t have a run game… now they are the best dog in 10 years.

the reason no one likes discussing games with you as you’ve seen in other threads is you are always right and fail to see anyone else’s points. Lots of good posters on this forums and bluntly a lot of them are better than you, might do you some good to listen.

this post wasn’t a bash. Good luck.
 

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Complied from the last 5 games from each team.
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Points allowed.
Bengals 16.8 (Bengals played 2 of 5 at home.
Chiefs 18.2 (Played 3 of 5 at home.
Eagles. 20.6 (played 3 of 5 at home.
SF. 20.6 (Played 4 of last 5 at home.

Bengals played 3 away games and still had the best numbers.

SF was the only team with 4 home games and matched points allowed with Philly, who played one less home game.

Chiefs were 2nd but had three teams score 20 or more.

Philly allowed 3 teams with 20 or more but played 2 games of the 5 without Hurts. Which is why they have the edge and are second in my order.
You're seriously using this data to rank the remaining defenses??

KC better than SF??

Good Lord
 

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It does matter:

someone that misses 12 of their last 13 answers on a test
Someone that has shown to be a below average student consistently over the last 3 years

and then posts biased information about stats: isn’t someone to follow. For example cincy stats they played Baltimore twice in the past 5 games who is one of the worst offenses in the league without Lamar Jackson. And one of those games they sat their backs and Andrew’s their best offensive weapon.

blunt fact is being put out that differs from your thoughts and you need a formula to back it up?

tou can take stats and turns them into any side you’d like. Prime example are your game picks. Week 1 if playoff the cowboys aren’t who we think they are, the next— they roll over San Fran. Last week the bengals have all these issues and will get blown out by bills bc they can’t score, missing 3 ol, don’t have a run game… now they are the best dog in 10 years.

the reason no one likes discussing games with you as you’ve seen in other threads is you are always right and fail to see anyone else’s points. Lots of good posters on this forums and bluntly a lot of them are better than you, might do you some good to listen.

this post wasn’t a bash. Good luck.
You sound obsessed with this guy. Bad look.
 

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Seems as if they're all good. But Philly played in the best division and you play division rivals down the stretch.

I'm going with Philly, SF, Cinci, KC
 

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Seems as if they're all good. But Philly played in the best division and you play division rivals down the stretch.

I'm going with Philly, SF, Cinci, KC
They played in the best division? ?
 

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1. SF based off scheme and personnel. Give many different looks and are aggressive. Weakness sits in level 3 but still good. Good DC who just gives so many unique looks. Best LB core in league.

2. Phi is well balanced weakness level 2. Aggressive also and when healthy good depth levels 1 and 3. Have a solid DC.

3. KC weakness level 3. Solid all around probably an underrated LB core. Old school aggressive DC loves to pressure especially 3rd Downs.

4. Cin is bend don’t break. 335 heavy drop 8 zone type team. Weakness level 2. Good DC but leans a bit on just one scheme.

SF D can give any team fits due to scheme
Phi D is tuff and balanced
KC hit or miss
Cin bend don’t break but not built to give any team fits however certain teams it will


If you put Mahommes Brady Allen Herbert Joe Dak in a room and said what defense would you not want to play they will say SF. No matter if they won or scored 50 it’s irrelevant to the fact SF style and scheme and looks and aggressive and the plain physicality they deploy. If you use G’s argument they would simply say yeah sure okay man maybe go walk on grass and feel reality. And probably think it was a prank by the interviewer.


If I’m playing KC I like Cin D. If playing Phi or SF I don’t.

If I’m playing Cin I like SF and Phi D. KC not so much

If I’m playing SF I like Phi D. KC or Cin not so much

If I’m playing Phi I like SF D. Then KC then Cin


If Cin played Cin I’d like Cin D
If SF played SF I’d like SF D
If KC played KC I wouldn’t like KC D
If Phi played Phi I wouldn’t like Phi D
 

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Complied from the last 5 games from each team.
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Points allowed.
Bengals 16.8 (Bengals played 2 of 5 at home.
Chiefs 18.2 (Played 3 of 5 at home.
Eagles. 20.6 (played 3 of 5 at home.
SF. 20.6 (Played 4 of last 5 at home.

Bengals played 3 away games and still had the best numbers.

SF was the only team with 4 home games and matched points allowed with Philly, who played one less home game.

Chiefs were 2nd but had three teams score 20 or more.

Philly allowed 3 teams with 20 or more but played 2 games of the 5 without Hurts. Which is why they have the edge and are second in my order.
I respect the opinion but geez man. If this is the angle then why not consider bengals past 5 games were vs

Ravens twice with no QB
Patriots
Bucs
Bills

Overall the Ravens and Bucs and Patriots were bland on offense and bottom of league. Stats could say Patriots are 5th in ppg but if that comes off the back of 3 40pt games and 9 defensive TDS etc it inflated n hides the fact the patriots are not a high scoring team off play style and personnel.

The Bucs were marching up n down The filed on Cin. In the first half. Probably because the D plays so much drop 8. Gives QBs more time to pass. Vs a guy like Tom it’s beneficial. He prefers pocket time. The Bucs opened the second half fumble fumble int fumble int literally in first 3 plays each series. The way they did it wasn’t because Cin created them otherwise I’d give credit where it’s due. Just fluke shit.

You could do the same for any 4 teams left. Phi D shut down Giants 3rd stringers. Giants rally late vs Phi soft D almost on side kick for shot to win. SF gets rolled up on by raiders in game they went into not too focused not much relevance. You can imply several scenarios to either side for each team many ways. Mostly subjective stuff I’d say.

Point is you can cherry pick so many angles to support what you want to believe. The Bengals are a good defense no doubt.

I’ve argued this for years. I call it the Tebow effect. The more points an offense scores consistently the worse a D looks stat wise.

Denver had the best D with Tebow. All the rave it was the D not Tebow to why they won. Nobody feared the Broncos offense thus on offense they became conservative. Games tighten up. Broncos O didn’t score much thus D didn’t give up much. As teams didn’t need to score much

Enter the sheriff the next year. That same D given up 13 ppg now gives up 24ppg. Because the offense is now scoring 35 ppg.

Point is stats don’t tell the real story. See it all the time a team up 21 yet on D they then play differently. And on offense they play differently. Up 21 in 3rd and end of game win by 7. However they won comfortably. D goes softer allowing yards in exchange for time. Scoreboard may say different than the field.
 

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SF is ranked higher on D than PHI in all analytical categories with the exception of the QB dropback. PHI is in the bottom 3rd in the metrics against the run. KC the worst of the 4 teams in all metrics. Just my opinion from looking into it.
 

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SF is ranked higher on D than PHI in all analytical categories with the exception of the QB dropback. PHI is in the bottom 3rd in the metrics against the run. KC the worst of the 4 teams in all metrics. Just my opinion from looking into it.
On top of that

Watch these teams play and not hard to conclude SF is the best based on eye test alone
 

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Also, the week of the Divisional games (before the Divisional round games) Dall was just above Philadelphia overall. Phi strength obviously is getting to the QB with pressure. Imo there's no step up in defensive class for the Niners going from playing Dallas to playing Philadelphia
 

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Purdy and SF had better watch the Philly back side rush..he's had happy feet repeatedly in the past few games and when pressured he's looked it.
IMO he regressed a little last week and looked a lot more like a under experienced QB dispute winning.

Backside hit and a QB turnover ..I could see this sorta thing being the difference in this game.
 

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Purdy and SF had better watch the Philly back side rush..he's had happy feet repeatedly in the past few games and when pressured he's looked it.
IMO he regressed a little last week and looked a lot more like a under experienced QB dispute winning.

Backside hit and a QB turnover ..I could see this sorta thing being the difference in this game.
Purdy needs to stop scrambling left so much right after the snap
 

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