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GreenDoberman said:
What could have been a useful and educational thread has turned into a pissing match.

Iceman, you have some excellent posts in here but got off track and into a flaming war. Be above it, as you lend some very useful information for those aspiring middlers.

Legion, state your case and provide evidence. I'm sure you can lend some insight as well.

We try and stay above the fray, but now egos get involved.

Once again, educational and informative debate is productive; rhetoric and dick-waving is counter-productive.

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D2bets said:
Assuming such upheavel is true, then doesn't it make sense to have MORE accounts and NOT FEWER? Doesn't it make more sense to diversify your $ among more accounts instead of having more eggs in each basket so that if one book stiffs you you'll have less $ lost at that book?

Variety is the spice of life. And offshore sportsbooks.


You are definately not a true gambler so i dont blame you for making such a crazy statement. And you in particular should be ashamed of posting such nonsense about the upheaval in the offshore industry. Have you been living under a rock the last eight months?

A real proffessional gambler will tell you they dont put money in books where they expect to get stiffed. Only a fool does that and one of the big proponents of such a bonehead idea was one of the bigger promoters of betonsports. Which proves my point, that its the fools who put money in every rink dink book they can find instead of playing only at the top books where your money wont get stolen.
 

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Iceman said:
nice comeback. I may have gven you too much credit. 2nd grade argument is more like it.

This is hopeless.


As i predicted you would respond when challenged to prove your theory. I am not in the least bit suprised. I full expected this and thats exactly what you did, "tucked your tail and run"..flip back afew pages and you will find the non prophetic guess on my part.

you are not the first poster with bone head theories i have come against you wont be the last.

they all run off claiming they are world beaters but not a single one of them can post their plays.:drink: :drink:
 

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foreignlegion, nothing you're saying in these threads makes it sound like you're a "true gambler" as well so why don't you cut down on all the bullshit insults and name-calling and focus on the issues at hand? Trust me, all these insults aren't helping your cause any, contrary to your belief, you aren't all-knowing, so you might want to try respecting other people's opinions, respectfully disagreeing, and having an intelligent conversation rather than a BS war to see who can make the other one out to be the biggest fool. It's retarded.
Goes for many more than just you on this site.
 

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GreenDoberman said:
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Legion, state your case and provide evidence. I'm sure you can lend some insight as well.

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Case has been stated more than 10 times in my posts. I have provided numerous examples including cases like betonsports that simply shut down and run off with people's money, or in other cases used the guys own plays that he posted to prove that his statement is simply ridiculous.

I consider myself a proffessional gambler and i dont any one else that does this that would even consider such a silly idea. Matter of fact, most are making the move to las vegas while this guy is herding the ignorant morons into marginal books.
 

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Dsethi said:
foreignlegion, nothing you're saying in these threads makes it sound like you're a "true gambler" as well so why don't you cut down on all the bullshit insults and name-calling and focus on the issues at hand? Trust me, all these insults aren't helping your cause any, contrary to your belief, you aren't all-knowing, so you might want to try respecting other people's opinions, respectfully disagreeing, and having an intelligent conversation rather than a BS war to see who can make the other one out to be the biggest fool. It's retarded.
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Thing is i dont have to convince you or any one that i am a true gambler.(whatever that phrase means)

However, if some one starts a thread claiming some absurd activity is actually worth it, the onus is on them to prove their point.

I dont know everything in the world for damn sure, but i do know how stupid it is to put money in 10 books. If i am wrong, then all these people like fishead, can prove me wrong by simply posting the numbers.

I have said it over 10 times already. If i called your idea stupid, wouldnt you prove me wrong by posting your numbers. I know i sure as hell would post my numbers if i claimed some fake ass theory.
 

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All this talk of value and shopping and having 15 outs won't get you paid when you get fucked in the ass on 5-6 of those out's...
 

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foreignlegion said:
You are definately not a true gambler so i dont blame you for making such a crazy statement. And you in particular should be ashamed of posting such nonsense about the upheaval in the offshore industry. Have you been living under a rock the last eight months?

A real proffessional gambler will tell you they dont put money in books where they expect to get stiffed. Only a fool does that and one of the big proponents of such a bonehead idea was one of the bigger promoters of betonsports. Which proves my point, that its the fools who put money in every rink dink book they can find instead of playing only at the top books where your money wont get stolen.

Are you suggesting that 10 top books can't be found? And I don't consider myself a gambler, mainly because I know I'm going to win. I call myself an investor. Mostly just a time investment.
 

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Iceman,

I am just curious where you got -7 on the Hawaii game at the half. It must have been for only a split second somewhere. I did not see -7 anywhere at the half and i was sitting there trying to find it from numerous books. If you did get -7 i'm curious of the juice you paid on it.
 

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10 books is about right at a time. You need more than three, but you don't need 30+.

Here's a good ten:

1 Mansion
2 Matchbook

so you have exchanges

3 Pinnacle
4 Trojan

so you have low juice option

5 Cris
6 Greek

openers

7 Skybook
8 SIA

free half point/ off lines

9 Wagerweb
10 Pop
11 5 Dimes

different options

I feel safe at all of those. What you don't need is books that duplicate what you have, you don't need both CRIS and DSI. Bodog is safe, but you won't find the best line there ( once switched).

Ten is really a good comprimise. I switch them around, I'd trade Greek for Jam during baseball, dump CRIS for a dimeline shop, etc.

Non-Americans have more options with Betfair and Euro books available.
 

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Doug said:
10 books is about right at a time. You need more than three, but you don't need 30+.

Here's a good ten:

1 Mansion
2 Matchbook

so you have exchanges

3 Pinnacle
4 Trojan

so you have low juice option

5 Cris
6 Greek

openers

7 Skybook
8 SIA

free half point/ off lines

9 Wagerweb
10 Pop
11 5 Dimes

different options

I feel safe at all of those. What you don't need is books that duplicate what you have, you don't need both CRIS and DSI. Bodog is safe, but you won't find the best line there ( once switched).

Ten is really a good comprimise. I switch them around, I'd trade Greek for Jam during baseball, dump CRIS for a dimeline shop, etc.

Non-Americans have more options with Betfair and Euro books available.

Excellent post.....now we can move on.

Adding to this, one can have enough money in NETELLER in the amount of 1-2 units if they need to quickly deposit anyplace else.

Although DOUGS list may vary slightly from individual to individual in terms of the actual books used.........the point is 10-15 is a VERY good amount of books to be in.
 

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anxietyattack said:
Iceman,

I am just curious where you got -7 on the Hawaii game at the half. It must have been for only a split second somewhere. I did not see -7 anywhere at the half and i was sitting there trying to find it from numerous books. If you did get -7 i'm curious of the juice you paid on it.

I got -7 (-115) at the Greek and it was up for the first few seconds but they always gamble on there halftimes because they generally are posting first and I got +10 (-110) at Cris about 5 minutes later. This is a very rare occurence on halftimes for me(finding a 3 point middle) but the whole Hawaii game betting is usually a mess and so I caught some decent numbers.

Not the greatest middle but from the numbers I got with juice, it is a little over breakeven and that is why i bet it. I was actually just looking to try and beat the Greek with a "soft" haltime number as I have had done pretty well with that method and than the +10 came in. Like I said the whole Hawaii game mystique is why this number probably moved so much as 3 point haftime middles on sides in CFB are few and far between.
 

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Anxietyattack please post like you have been and you will have no problems with post review.


Best of luck, wilheim.
 

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